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lcsdds View Member Profile	Mar 1 2009, 06:54 PM
Mar 1 2009, 06:54 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 1 2009, 06:27 PM) E Major Triad would be wrong. F#min Gmin C#dim ? Using the chart it would look like this. ii=Emin iii=F#min IV=Gmaj V=Amaj vi=Bmin vii dim=C#dim I=Dmaj Remember E Dorian is Built off of the ii of D Ionian. Since it is a minor mode though, we compare it to E aeolian=G ionian/major to find the strong notes. Does this help? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

opeth.db View Member Profile	Mar 1 2009, 07:06 PM
Mar 1 2009, 07:06 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	Ok. I think I see what I was doing wrong. I was starting with E Dorian and counting that as number I rather than it being ii. I thought the number mode shifted since we are starting on a different root note. Apparently the numbers dont change. I think I need to do another example. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

lcsdds View Member Profile	Mar 1 2009, 07:15 PM
Mar 1 2009, 07:15 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 1 2009, 07:06 PM) Ok. I think I see what I was doing wrong. I was starting with E Dorian and counting that as number I rather than it being ii. I thought the number mode shifted since we are starting on a different root note. Apparently the numbers dont change. I think I need to do another example. Actually there are two ways of thinking about it Dan. The way you were doing it is called Paralell thinking. We will get there but for now do it in Relative thinking. USE THE CHART. Do the same scenario now except now the tune is in F phrygian and I want the moshers not to get confused and think it is F aeolian. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by lcsdds: Mar 1 2009, 07:16 PM

jer View Member Profile	Mar 1 2009, 09:23 PM
Mar 1 2009, 09:23 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	QUOTE I was starting with E Dorian and counting that as number I rather than it being ii. I thought the number mode shifted since we are starting on a different root note. Apparently the numbers dont change. You and me both man!!! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

opeth.db View Member Profile	Mar 1 2009, 10:13 PM
Mar 1 2009, 10:13 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	F Phrygian would be minor The different note is the Gb And our chords would be iii-Fmin IV-Gbmaj V-Abmaj vi-Bbmin vii-Cdim I-Dbmaj ii-Ebmin ? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

lcsdds View Member Profile	Mar 1 2009, 10:34 PM
Mar 1 2009, 10:34 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 1 2009, 10:13 PM) F Phrygian would be minor The different note is the Gb And our chords would be iii-Fmin IV-Gbmaj V-Abmaj vi-Bbmin vii-Cdim I-Dbmaj ii-Ebmin ? \m/\m/ Yeah Baby!!. Now, just highlight the chords for me that contain Gb so I know to try and sneak those in my progression and you are good to go!! Good job Dan. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by lcsdds: Mar 1 2009, 10:35 PM

Outlaw2112 View Member Profile	Mar 1 2009, 10:35 PM
Mar 1 2009, 10:35 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.881 Joined: 16-January 08 From: Washington DC	QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 1 2009, 10:13 PM) F Phrygian would be minor The different note is the Gb And our chords would be iii-Fmin IV-Gbmaj V-Abmaj vi-Bbmin vii-Cdim I-Dbmaj ii-Ebmin ? all that writing to me looks like something out of the movie stargate. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! --------------------

opeth.db View Member Profile	Mar 1 2009, 10:51 PM
Mar 1 2009, 10:51 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	Well if its minor wouldn't it be the ii, iii, vi? So... Ebmin - Fmin - Bbmin ? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

lcsdds View Member Profile	Mar 1 2009, 11:07 PM
Mar 1 2009, 11:07 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 1 2009, 10:51 PM) Well if its minor wouldn't it be the ii, iii, vi? So... Ebmin - Fmin - Bbmin ? You gotta spell out the individual triads like you did earlier to see where the Gb appears as the root, 3rd and 5th. In this case it would be Gbmaj=Gb-Bb-Db Gb as the root Ebmin=Eb-Gb-Bb Gb as the 3rd Cdim=C-Eb-Gb Gb as the 5th Get it!! QUOTE (Outlaw2112 @ Mar 1 2009, 10:35 PM) all that writing to me looks like something out of the movie stargate. Stargate rules!!! The tv show was the BEST!! Dan check out this thread: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...mp;#entry347187 You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by lcsdds: Mar 1 2009, 11:10 PM

opeth.db View Member Profile	Mar 1 2009, 11:15 PM
Mar 1 2009, 11:15 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	QUOTE (lcsdds @ Mar 1 2009, 05:07 PM) You gotta spell out the individual triads like you did earlier to see where the Gb appears as the root, 3rd and 5th. In this case it would be Gbmaj=Gb-Bb-Db Gb as the root Ebmin=Eb-Gb-Bb Gb as the 3rd Cdim=C-Eb-Gb Gb as the 5th Get it!! Got it. I forgot about that part. I will try it again with something else. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

lcsdds View Member Profile	Mar 1 2009, 11:25 PM
Mar 1 2009, 11:25 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 1 2009, 11:15 PM) Got it. I forgot about that part. I will try it again with something else. How about G Lydian. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

opeth.db View Member Profile	Mar 2 2009, 01:34 AM
Mar 2 2009, 01:34 AM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	G Lydian = Major Mode = G A B C# D E F# Scale = G Major/Ionian G A B C D E F# C# is the different note. Triads are C# E G A C# E F# A C# I think I got it now? You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

lcsdds View Member Profile	Mar 2 2009, 01:53 AM
Mar 2 2009, 01:53 AM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 2 2009, 01:34 AM) G Lydian = Major Mode = G A B C# D E F# Scale = G Major/Ionian G A B C D E F# C# is the different note. Triads are C# E G A C# E F# A C# I think I got it now? Good Job Dan. Now just make sure when you write out the triads you know whether they are major, minor or diminished triads. You thought process is flowing now. Good Job dude!! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! This post has been edited by lcsdds: Mar 2 2009, 01:54 AM

opeth.db View Member Profile	Mar 2 2009, 02:17 AM
Mar 2 2009, 02:17 AM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	Would it be like this? C#dim = C# E G Amaj= A C# E F#min= F# A C# You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

lcsdds View Member Profile	Mar 2 2009, 03:31 AM
Mar 2 2009, 03:31 AM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 2 2009, 02:17 AM) Would it be like this? C#dim = C# E G Amaj= A C# E F#min= F# A C# \m/\m/ Good job!! You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

jer View Member Profile	Mar 2 2009, 01:19 PM
Mar 2 2009, 01:19 PM	GMC:er Posts: 1.889 Joined: 3-September 08 From: Des Moines IA USA	Dan = Theory Prodigy You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Jackson SL-1 USA Soloist Jackson DK2M ESP LTD MH-400 ESP LTD EC-1000 Ibanez Custom S-Series Martin 001 Acoustic Handmade Marshall JCM800 50watt head (with mods) Carvin 50x2 Stereo Tube Amp Boss GT-10 Preamp/Effects Processor Digitech GSP-1101 Preamp/Effects Processor Behringer FCB1010 Midi Controlled Floorboard Behringer Dualfex EX2200 Behinger Stereo EQ Line 6 POD with 2.3 upgrade Line 6 Floor Board Line 6 Spider III Practice Amp Nady UHF Wireless *"Who will eat the decay, when the worms have lost their sight?"*

opeth.db View Member Profile	Mar 2 2009, 03:53 PM
Mar 2 2009, 03:53 PM	Learning Apprentice Player Posts: 1.156 Joined: 11-September 08 From: Cleveland, Ohio	QUOTE (jer @ Mar 2 2009, 07:19 AM) Dan = Theory Prodigy You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! -------------------- My Gear Ibanez RG570 Silver Jackson Ofset V Randy Rhodes Signature Mitchell Acoustic Custom Ibanez S series (Currently working on) X2 XDS95 Digital Wireless system Line 6 MKII 8 Channel USB Roland Mixer My Site www.shredwork.com Learn how to count. It's what separates the hack and the pros IMHO. -LCSDDS

lcsdds View Member Profile	Mar 2 2009, 06:05 PM
Mar 2 2009, 06:05 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 2 2009, 03:53 PM) You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

lcsdds View Member Profile	Mar 3 2009, 06:34 AM
Mar 3 2009, 06:34 AM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	Dan, Check out this thread. I gave you a little assignment. Thanks dude. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...mp;#entry347964 You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

lcsdds View Member Profile	Mar 3 2009, 06:37 PM
Mar 3 2009, 06:37 PM	Learning Tone Seeker Posts: 2.054 Joined: 2-September 08	Dan...do me a favor....Stop by Marek's thread and get him up to speed on the theory stuff we have been going over. Just work in his thread until he is on the same page as us. He is pretty busy so don't get frustrated if it is slow going. Patience my man. Thanks for the help!! I think you, Jer and Kazmandu are good to go so far with the theory. You are at GuitarMasterClass.net Don't miss today's free lick. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content! Don't miss today's free blues, jazz & country licks. Plus all our lessons are packed with free content!

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