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post Feb 25 2009, 10:43 AM
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Hello GMC:ers.

I'm about to change the strings of my Les Paul Studio and I want a really heavy, low and fat sound so I'm thinking of C tuning. But before I hurry to the music dealer I wanted to get some input regarding different strings.

So does anyone have any input regarding what to get for a C tuning?
- String gauge
- String composition
- String "brand"

And furthermore, do I have to adjust the guitar in any way if I go with a new string gauge? I read an article regarding this we they recommend to:
* Enlarging the nut slots to accommodate for the larger string size
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* Tightening the rod to counteract the increased tension on the neck
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* And, possibly, lowering the saddle if there is enough difference to the tops belly

But is this really necessary?

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post Feb 25 2009, 10:48 AM
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For string guage, C tuning has got to be at least an 11, I use 12. id throw in my favorite brand D'addario's. You can tighten the rod, but being that your strings are big enough to accommodate the right tension and balance of the tuning being low, then you don't have to. If you are paranoid though like a lot of people, then do so anyway.

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post Feb 25 2009, 10:48 AM
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If you are going for C tuning then you need some 11 (first string) set at least. 12 would be even better. Yes you will need to setup your guitar for that a bit. Tune your octaves and the action. I don't think I would be able to play that comfortably but the riff will sound pretty death metal smile.gif


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post Feb 25 2009, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Feb 25 2009, 10:48 AM) *
If you are going for C tuning then you need some 11 (first string) set at least. 12 would be even better. Yes you will need to setup your guitar for that a bit. Tune your octaves and the action. I don't think I would be able to play that comfortably but the riff will sound pretty death metal smile.gif


That's what I'm going for! smile.gif

One question though... The part "Yes you will need to setup your guitar for that a bit". What does that really mean? I have extremely limited skills when it comes to "hardware" tweaking of the guitar.

Thanks for the input!

QUOTE (VinceG @ Feb 25 2009, 10:48 AM) *
For string guage, C tuning has got to be at least an 11, I use 12. id throw in my favorite brand D'addario's. You can tighten the rod, but being that your strings are big enough to accommodate the right tension and balance of the tuning being low, then you don't have to. If you are paranoid though like a lot of people, then do so anyway.


Tighten the rod scares the hell out of me smile.gif I'm kinda hoping that I don't have to do this... ( I will probably destroy the guitar in 1 million pieces if I try anything like this... )

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post Feb 25 2009, 03:36 PM
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11 or 12, yeah.
And maybe you even wouldn't have to mess around with trust rod,
C is low enough and 11-12 is heavy enough so maybe it's perfect match.



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post Feb 25 2009, 04:04 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Feb 25 2009, 03:36 PM) *
11 or 12, yeah.
And maybe you even wouldn't have to mess around with trust rod,
C is low enough and 11-12 is heavy enough so maybe it's perfect match.


Excellent and thanks for the input! I will go with 12 and see what this does.

One more thing smile.gif Is the brand of the strings important? I have always used Ernie Ball strings but the last time the local music dealer recommended some other strings and sure, they were fine as well but I couldn't really tell any difference. And what about D'addario's strings that every one seem to use, are they really that much better than e.g. Ernie Ball?



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post Feb 25 2009, 04:10 PM
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I've used Ernie Ball for a long time and I wasn't happy with it until discovered some other brand. Different brand has different string construction method although they may use the same materials. Try it and you will notice the difference in tone and playability.
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post Feb 25 2009, 05:25 PM
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QUOTE (gibsonmatte @ Feb 25 2009, 11:25 AM) *
One question though... The part "Yes you will need to setup your guitar for that a bit". What does that really mean? I have extremely limited skills when it comes to "hardware" tweaking of the guitar.



Well, simplified: say you use 9 gauge for E-tuning, to have equal tension when tuning down, you need to Increase string gauge. So when tuning down as low as C, the strings wioll have to be at least 11, certainly 12 gauge, as already stated, to remain somewhat equal tension as before. It's hard to get EXATCLY the same tension on both sides of the neck (strings vs. trussrod). That's why you might need to turn the trussrod just a bit.


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post Feb 25 2009, 08:44 PM
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Don't be afraid to setup your guitar. If you hear string buzzing on the frets then your bridge needs to be higher. Set it higher until you are happy and that's it.


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post Dec 14 2009, 01:52 PM
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Resurrecting an old thread.

How did it go gibsonmatte? I'm going to get myself som .12 strings for my guitar to play in C tuning and wonder if you had to adjust your truss rod anything. (How do you know if you have to anyway?).


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post Dec 15 2009, 01:25 AM
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If you experience any problems like lots of string buzz, lose of sustaing, high action, then you have to do the setup.


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post Dec 15 2009, 06:32 AM
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There are some D'addario's strings that comes specially for Metal tunes. Check them out on D'addario's page or Ernie Ball


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post Dec 15 2009, 04:00 PM
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Personally, I would use .13 strings, because, if I would want to switch to B tuning, then the strings could become a bit too soft for my taste. But, that's my preference. smile.gif


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