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post Mar 8 2009, 04:23 PM
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QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 8 2009, 03:11 PM) *
I used to do that but it doesn't teach you how to sub-divide the beat properly.

It's true... but before you learn to subdivide the beat you have to get the lick up to tempo. For this lick you goal is going to be 8th notes at 180bpm. Once you get to where you can play the lick at 80 bpm in 8th's then you can start working on playing it in 16ths @40 bpm.

I do this all the time. Muris plays ALOT of 32nd notes. I'll have to practice the lick in 16ths until I can play it at least at 80 bpm. Then I can start working on the 32nd note feel at 40 bpm.

You are right though. But....unless you have the technique to play this lick at tempo already then you have two options.....skip the lick OR.....Practice it in 8ths until you can play it fast enough to practice it in 16ths.


In Muris Phrygian advanced lesson he plays a lick in 32nd note triplets....That's right!!!......TWELVE NOTES PER BEAT. It is a weird 3 note per string pentatonic shape to boot!!! Sometimes Muris really PISSES ME OFF!!! tongue.gif laugh.gif I have been working on this lick for about 3 months and am now just barely getting to where I can play it in the 40-60 bpm range in it's correct phrasing of 32nd note triplets. GET USED TO DOING THIS!! smile.gif
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post Mar 8 2009, 10:20 PM
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Right.

And 50bpm trying to squeeze 4 per click = 200 at 1 per click.

I can always have the kaz-box emphasize the 1 too.




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post Mar 9 2009, 05:23 PM
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So Jer here is where I think you are at as far as assingments and what I would like to see you working on:

Diatonic and pentatonic boxes and triads:
Should be learning these as you have time. Just use them as warm-up excercises.

Lydian beginner solo:
Would like you to post a take ASAP. Doesn't need to be full speed. I want to see you work on that picking lick for sure. Drop the bpm down to 50 and do the 1 min thing all the way up to 90. Take 5 min a day and do it every day if possible this week and tell me if you don't see a difference. smile.gif

Kaz-box excercise:
No time frame on this just whenever you get a chance. I know you have limited time.

Lydian collab:
Solo over Muris's backing. Would like to see something on this by the end of the month if possible. Will help you learn your triads and diatonic and pentatonic boxes.

One thing I would really love to see you incorporate into your practice routine is some sort of consistent technique workout. I am composing some etude's over Muris's picking lesson that he is having me work on. I've done one for tapping and I am going to do one for legato and economy picking as well. They are really efficient for working on your technique. Once you memorize them you can play them for like 20 minutes and get a really good workout for that technique. I'm gonna post a take of my tapping etude later this week and you can tell me what you think. I know you have limited time but I would like to see you get some sort of consistent technique workout. Up to you though. smile.gif

One thing I noticed from watching your videos is you don't really alternate pick consistently. Watch the video. When you go from a lower string to a higher string, most of the time you do a downstroke regardless of which way your pick is already moving. This will hurt your speed and this is where slowing the metronome WAY down will help. At the really slow tempos you can really focus on the motions because you aren't struggling so much trying to play the lick.

Any questions about anything? smile.gif

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post Mar 9 2009, 05:59 PM
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Kaz-box excercise:
No time frame on this just whenever you get a chance. I know you have limited time.


What is this?

We use the kaz box for lots of stuff yes? Is this something specific?

And what about the 2 original licks/guitar pro tab thing?


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post Mar 9 2009, 06:17 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Mar 9 2009, 05:59 PM) *
And what about the 2 original licks/guitar pro tab thing?

That is what I am talking about. smile.gif
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post Mar 9 2009, 06:25 PM
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Ahh ok.

Any reason we cant use them in the main 16bar solo we write?


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post Mar 9 2009, 06:38 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Mar 9 2009, 06:25 PM) *
Ahh ok.

Any reason we cant use them in the main 16bar solo we write?

Nope....but if you do I would like to see you tab it out for me. Not the whole solo....Just the lick. smile.gif
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post Mar 9 2009, 06:40 PM
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QUOTE
Diatonic and pentatonic boxes and triads:
Should be learning these as you have time. Just use them as warm-up excercises.


Gotcha

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Lydian beginner solo:
Would like you to post a take ASAP. Doesn't need to be full speed. I want to see you work on that picking lick for sure. Drop the bpm down to 50 and do the 1 min thing all the way up to 90. Take 5 min a day and do it every day if possible this week and tell me if you don't see a difference.


Yep.

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Kaz-box excercise:
No time frame on this just whenever you get a chance. I know you have limited time.


Oh, I'll have a couple of sweet licks by the end of the month. No worries.

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Lydian collab:
Solo over Muris's backing. Would like to see something on this by the end of the month if possible. Will help you learn your triads and diatonic and pentatonic boxes.


Yep, a varied original solo coming up! Dunno how good it will be, but I can do it.

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One thing I would really love to see you incorporate into your practice routine is some sort of consistent technique workout. I am composing some etude's over Muris's picking lesson that he is having me work on. I've done one for tapping and I am going to do one for legato and economy picking as well. They are really efficient for working on your technique. Once you memorize them you can play them for like 20 minutes and get a really good workout for that technique. I'm gonna post a take of my tapping etude later this week and you can tell me what you think. I know you have limited time but I would like to see you get some sort of consistent technique workout. Up to you though.


This makes sense. Except I don't really know what to focus on. I've never been able to pin down anything in particular I want to work on. "I want to be better at tapping" "I want to be better at bends" "I want to be better at legato" I've never had anything in particular in mind... I just want to be better at all of it. Right now being able to sync my hands and just play above my painfully slow current speed is all I'm focused on. As I dont feel I'll ever be able to play much lead guitar if I cant. Like bar 11 in the beginner Lydian thing. To me that is fast playing. Thats 360 bpm after all! But to most people they wouldnt call that fast. So my focus is on picking and fretting simultaneously at speeds above where I am now.

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One thing I noticed from watching your videos is you don't really alternate pick consistently.


Oh yeah? Well you're ugly. wink.gif kidding of course.

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Watch the video.


Any particular video I should look at?

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When you go from a lower string to a higher string, most of the time you do a downstroke regardless of which way your pick is already moving. This will hurt your speed and this is where slowing the metronome WAY down will help. At the really slow tempos you can really focus on the motions because you aren't struggling so much trying to play the lick.


Yeah, when going from a lower string to a higher string, if I just did a downstroke I'll do a second downstroke. Cuz to me thats less movement than moving my picking hand down and scooping under the next string to come up.

Not true?


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post Mar 9 2009, 06:50 PM
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Except I don't really know what to focus on. I've never been able to pin down anything in particular I want to work on. "I want to be better at tapping" "I want to be better at bends" "I want to be better at legato" I've never had anything in particular in mind... I just want to be better at all of it. Right now being able to sync my hands and just play above my painfully slow current speed is all I'm focused on. As I dont feel I'll ever be able to play much lead guitar if I cant. Like bar 11 in the beginner Lydian thing. To me that is fast playing. Thats 360 bpm after all! But to most people they wouldnt call that fast. So my focus is on picking and fretting simultaneously at speeds above where I am now.

For now since you have limited time lets just use it to perfect this lydian lesson. I want to see you get that picking lick up to snuff so use the Kaz-box like I outlined and see if we can't make some consistent progress. Same with the tapping lick. We'll see how that looks when you post your take. Let's just focus on this lesson for now as far as technique. I think once you see results with the consisten Kaz-box use it will make you hungry for more. smile.gif





Any particular video I should look at?

The kaz-box video you posted or the Ionian scale video would be fine. You do it in both.


Yeah, when going from a lower string to a higher string, if I just did a downstroke I'll do a second downstroke. Cuz to me thats less movement than moving my picking hand down and scooping under the next string to come up.

Not true?

Is true.....but I think you should do straight alternate on this lick. Just do it for now if you would and we'll get into the "why's" soon. Ok?

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post Mar 9 2009, 07:06 PM
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yep. can do.



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Hey gang,

I've decided to work on some other things in my playing.

Focusing on lead guitar isn't going to get me to my goals.

Our paths may cross down the road, ya never know. Until then I'll be seeing ya out of the boards and in various lessons here at the awesome place we call GMC!

Keep up the good work Monte, When I'm ready to add the lead stuff to my playing I'll be looking for ya. Thanks for letting my try this out with you guys.

(oh, and I'll still be calling my metronome the KAZ BOX!)


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Jerky. laugh.gif

You know where to find me bro! smile.gif


QUOTE (jer @ Mar 11 2009, 01:02 PM) *
Hey gang,

I've decided to work on some other things in my playing.

Focusing on lead guitar isn't going to get me to my goals.

Our paths may cross down the road, ya never know. Until then I'll be seeing ya out of the boards and in various lessons here at the awesome place we call GMC!

Keep up the good work Monte, When I'm ready to add the lead stuff to my playing I'll be looking for ya. Thanks for letting my try this out with you guys.

(oh, and I'll still be calling my metronome the KAZ BOX!)



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post Mar 11 2009, 07:15 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Mar 11 2009, 06:02 PM) *
Hey gang,

I've decided to work on some other things in my playing.

Focusing on lead guitar isn't going to get me to my goals.

Our paths may cross down the road, ya never know. Until then I'll be seeing ya out of the boards and in various lessons here at the awesome place we call GMC!

Keep up the good work Monte, When I'm ready to add the lead stuff to my playing I'll be looking for ya. Thanks for letting my try this out with you guys.

(oh, and I'll still be calling my metronome the KAZ BOX!)

Keep working Jer and pop in from time to time and keep us laughing!!! smile.gif laugh.gif
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post Mar 11 2009, 07:36 PM
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You know where to find me bro!


Dude..... that avatar... Its exactly how I picture you.

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Oh I'd love to lurk around here and drop in on you guys. What else am I going to do at work all day?


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Thats my "What the hell is Monte talking about" face/



QUOTE (jer @ Mar 11 2009, 02:36 PM) *
Dude..... that avatar... Its exactly how I picture you.

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QUOTE (opeth.db @ Mar 11 2009, 07:37 PM) *
Thats my "What the hell is Monte talking about" face/

I've seen that expression A LOT!!!!! tongue.gif
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