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Velvet Roger
post Feb 28 2009, 11:53 AM
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post Mar 8 2009, 05:58 PM
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I just printed out the tab for the group assignment last night and memorized some and recorded this video this just a little while ago. I only did my take on your first video, involving the c-shape triads. My attempt was recorded with a metronome at 70BPM. I didn't make the shape changes very quickly, I kept it slow because I am still trying to work out the best fingering and transitioning for myself. The most noticeable mistake was around :55- 1:02, where I kind've fell off beat and had to speed up a little to catch up.



Also, don't mind the disgusted face I have on in this video laugh.gif My neighbors down stairs were cooking fish and it just hit my nostrils real hard when I started recording haha. I hate seafood.
Roger, I'll try to have the rest memorized, practiced, and recorded by Wednesday. I am also still working on the individual lesson, and i've just slightly improved, but not too much, I'll keep at it.


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post Mar 8 2009, 08:52 PM
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Thanks for the video Luey! smile.gif

First of all, great that you recorded a take, whilst you knew that it wasn't perfect yet. This way is much better for learning purposes.

I noticed a couple of things, which I would like you to pay a bit more attention to.

During your take I noticed that you did not consistently played the arpeggio shapes the same number of times before the final strum. In order for you to work on your timing, I would strongly suggest also to try to make the length of the exercise for each individual 3 note chord shape standard (try to keep to the tab).

Just to let you know what you actually played:

1st shape D major - 2 bars arpeggio
1st shape D minor - 2 bars arpeggio
2nd shape D major - 2 1/2 bars arpeggio
2nd shape D minor - 1 1/2 bars arpeggio (according to tab)
3rd shape D major - 2 1/2 bars arpeggio
3rd shape D minor - 2 bars arpeggio
4th shape D major - 1 1/2 bars arpeggio (according to tab)
4th shape D minor - 1 1/2 bars arpeggio (according to tab)

Furthermore, even when you started on the beat with the first note, you tend to go a bit out of sync during the arpeggio's. Generally speaking you are often just after the beat which is a matter of time to fix btw smile.gif

When you btw notice that you are late starting (like you mentioned at 0:55), I would advice you to not 'make up the time' but stop and continue with the next bar or so. Making up time, although it feels quite normal, doesn't help you getting your mind, ears, fingers play in the right tempo wink.gif .

One final advice I can give you is to keep your pinky closer to the fretboard even if you are not using it during certain shapes (I know this can be hard in the beginning, but just try to think about it whilst playing smile.gif).

In order to work a bit more on the timing I would suggest to leave the other exercises of the lesson for now (we can come back to them later on), and I would like you to continue working with the following tab, which contains only the highest 3 strings shapes of D major and D minor but then in 2 positions. I also added a longer rest between the shapes to give you a bit more time with the switches. The numbers above the notes are suggested fingerings to use.

Try to play this tab with a metronome at a speed which is confortable for you, and play exactly the length of the arpeggio's as written in the tab. Also keep attention that you stay in time during the arpeggio's! smile.gif

Set the volume of the metronome quite high, compared to your guitar volume so you will notice better whether you are in time or not.



Keep on going mate, and remember: it's better to have a couple of bars in time than play loads of bars just out of time! biggrin.gif

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post Mar 11 2009, 01:36 AM
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Thanks for the critique on the group assignment, Roger. I've printed out and been working on the new version of the group assignment you posted for me. I'm trying to work on the things you pointed out. thanks again man.

I'm posting another take of the individual assignment and man, I realize I suck at this. I tried to improve my timing from the first video of this individual assignment I posted, but then I mess up on the chords. If its not one thing its another. I've been practicing this lesson about an hour a day ever since it was assigned, and I just see no improvement. Its discouraging, especially when my group mates have breezed through this thing pretty quick and easy. I don't know what to do. There are mistakes in this take (of course), but I seriously recorded about 15 takes in the past hour and a half, and this was the best dry.gif
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post Mar 11 2009, 09:38 PM
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Hey Luey,

Thanks for the video!

I can surely see that you are struggling at this moment with several aspects of the lesson. First of all grabbing all the chord shapes and subsequently playing also the notes in time. To be honest, most of my previous comments would be in place here as well, although at some parts of the video you actually were quite well in time (always look things from the bright side! smile.gif

Don't worry at all about comparing your results with this lesson with others in our MTP group. The most important is that over time everyone in the group will progress, and everyone is different, with different current level of playing, different learning speeds etc etc, hence the individual approach I am going for with all of you smile.gif.

Now, after looking at all your video's up to now, I would like you to take a step aside from both the group exercise and the current lesson (we will get back to it, I promise smile.gif), and take a look at the written tab below.



As you can see, this tab contains many repeated notes, with a certain length (from full notes until triplets) and only 1 arpeggio (C chord) to be played in quarter notes, 2nd part in eight notes + strum. The reason why I would like to ask you to do this exercise for a while using a metronome at all times!!! is to really achieve a good ground of timing with the 'simple patterns'. Probably you now are thinking: this is very simple... etc., however I would like to see how you would play this basic exercise at e.g. 75 bpm or so.

Start really slow, and gradually build up speed to the point where you think it gets a bit sloppy. Then go back in speed a bit and record a take (after some practicing) with metronome and upload it here. This will enable me to see more clearly where the problems are which you are currently facing. It will also again be an exercise which gets your timing better! We will certainly find the way to get the original 1st assignment lesson played in a much more improved way, I promise!

Please don't feel down, see it as a challenge to get it right in the end! smile.gif

Good luck!

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post Mar 12 2009, 01:23 AM
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Thanks for the positive critique, Roger. Its the little things like that which will definitely keep me heading in the right direction. Sorry for the sluggish attitude in my last post, I was just tired from trying to record a good take for so long haha. But I realize this isn't a one and done kind of thing, even with one good take it wouldn't prove anything, I have to be able to play it flawlessly constantly. I'm sure this tab you provided me for my next exercise will help me with my timing. I just printed it out and will start working on it tonight. Thanks Roger! smile.gif


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post Mar 27 2009, 04:10 PM
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Ok, here's another attempt at the Group Lesson, so far its still only the first video based on the C-shape triads. I had to slow it down to 50bpm though, I smashed my pinky finger (on my fretting hand) yesterday in the cash register at work yesterday, and the most damage is right on the tip of my finger laugh.gif . It hurts haha, but its not too big of a deal, I just can't stretch as far as normal or put too much pressure on it without it causing a good amount of pain, so I had to record this take slower than what I've been playing it at the past few days. It should be better in a few days though, not a big deal. I know it's sloppy sad.gif , but I have been trying to practice this pretty hard, hopefully it shows a little.

I will see if I can record another attempt at my original individual lesson based on the Strumming and Arpeggio lesson today too. I will also print out the tab to the other 2 videos in your SI lesson and begin working on those too.

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post Mar 28 2009, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE (Farmer Joe @ Mar 27 2009, 04:10 PM) *
Ok, here's another attempt at the Group Lesson, so far its still only the first video based on the C-shape triads. I had to slow it down to 50bpm though, I smashed my pinky finger (on my fretting hand) yesterday in the cash register at work yesterday, and the most damage is right on the tip of my finger laugh.gif . It hurts haha, but its not too big of a deal, I just can't stretch as far as normal or put too much pressure on it without it causing a good amount of pain, so I had to record this take slower than what I've been playing it at the past few days. It should be better in a few days though, not a big deal. I know it's sloppy sad.gif , but I have been trying to practice this pretty hard, hopefully it shows a little.

I will see if I can record another attempt at my original individual lesson based on the Strumming and Arpeggio lesson today too. I will also print out the tab to the other 2 videos in your SI lesson and begin working on those too.

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Hey Luey,

I hope your fingertips will heal quickly smile.gif

I listen to your take and there are a couple of things which need some attention, but they may be resolved quite simple if I look at this take, compared to your previous takes.

First of all, you have the feeling to start off on the beat (so correct), however during the arpeggio's you sometimes increase speed a little and then decrease it again to end on time. Try to avoid this as much as possible smile.gif A couple of times you also started late or ended late.

Try to listen very carefully to your own take a couple of times and let me know whether you actually hear those things I mention.

The good thing is that you now play this exercise as it is written, so with the correct rests in between etc. However, I have the feeling that due to your injury you were unable to fret all the chord shapes properly, resulting in quite a bit of string noise especially during the shapes on string 2,3,4 and 3,4,5.

I quickly recorded a take of this exercise myself a minute ago on 60 bpm, which hopefully gives you a bit better idea how it should more or less sound. Compare it with your own take and try to identify where your timing problems are (I btw noticed that I hated 50 bpm as it is pretty hard to keep up with a steady tempo with 8th notes, so I chose a bpm which gives me at least a fairly OK feeling tongue.gif). One thing what can definitely help as well is that you tap the metronome clicks also with your foot at the same time.

Hopefully this helped a bit!

Cheers
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post Mar 28 2009, 12:10 PM
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Thanks Roger. I will listen to my take again when I get home from work to listen for my mistakes. And you hit the nail in the head about my injury causing the string noise on those two chords you mentioned, I noticed that while playing but couldn't really fix it because it was due from not being able to hold the strings down with my pinky with the right amount of pressure, that should be corrected once my finger is better. I also do notice that 50bpm sucks, for some reason this feels so much smoother when I play it at 60bpm as well, next take I record will be at that speed.
I appreciate you taking time out to record a take. It'll be very helpful as a reference when I record again. So I will work on this again as soon as I get home smile.gif
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post Mar 29 2009, 09:28 PM
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Ok, so here's another attempt at this again laugh.gif
I did it at 60BPM this time, it is just a bit more comfortable to play rhythm-wise. I took your advice from the last take (or at least I tried to follow it the best I could smile.gif )
I did notice a mistake at :25 where I just lost my place for a quick second, just a mental slip-up. And also, on the two shapes from :32-:47, you'll notice quite a bit of string noise, that was from the string i was holding down with the injured pinky mellow.gif I was trying all day today to get it to ring clearly, but its just annoying, and a bit painful to put more pressure on it, it was the best I could do for now.

Hope its better! smile.gif
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Hey Luey,

This is way, way better! Good job mate smile.gif

You sticked with pure downstrokes instead of alternate picking, and for now that's fine, it certainly improved your timing during this exercise. Besides the things mentioned by yourself, timing was pretty good!

Let's for now leave this and get going with some solo work smile.gif

I will post the assignment in a sec.

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Hey Roger, my apologies for the my take on the group assignment being this late, I have just been very busy. I had some free time tonight and recorded a very quick take. It is very very basic, I just pretty much made it up on the spot. I had memorized most of the shapes you provided during the week, so I was just able to make a quick simple improv here. I believe that I followed the rules you laid out for the assignment.
I wanted to get something done as soon as possible because I want to keep getting more lessons smile.gif

Oh yes, sorry about the slip-up at the end, I still get nervous recording videos :lol

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QUOTE (Farmer Joe @ Apr 26 2009, 04:34 AM) *
Hey Roger, my apologies for the my take on the group assignment being this late, I have just been very busy. I had some free time tonight and recorded a very quick take. It is very very basic, I just pretty much made it up on the spot. I had memorized most of the shapes you provided during the week, so I was just able to make a quick simple improv here. I believe that I followed the rules you laid out for the assignment.
I wanted to get something done as soon as possible because I want to keep getting more lessons smile.gif

Oh yes, sorry about the slip-up at the end, I still get nervous recording videos :lol

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Cheers mate! You got it right overall smile.gif. Will listen to it later today/tomorrow in more detail when I feel a bit better (feeling crap after a party yesterday tongue.gif), and give you some comments on the playing and such.

Feel free to work on your individual assignment in the meantime (Jumping Around lesson of Muris), as I did not see any takes from you on that one as far as I remember, right?

Good luck!
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Hey Luey,

I am back in the land of the living so here are my more details comments:

Throughout the complete take you played the right notes, without any exceptions, which is certainly well done! smile.gif There was one occassion where you did not obey the rules tongue.gif, which was in fact the switch between E minor and A minor (Bar 4 - 8, at the beginning), in which you used the C shape twice.

This assignment wasn't meant to be resulting in highly artistic / creative solo's, so you certainly passed it biggrin.gif , but I would like to give you a couple of pointers to think about in order to try to make it a bit more interesting.

Generally, you used almost no variation in timing, meaning a lot of quarter notes played and such, using a fairly standard arpeggio pattern at most places. One thing you can experiment with is to actually have some quicker patterns in it (eight notes e.g., or even faster if possible). Also the use of double-stops is certainly possibly here, even with so few notes to be allowed to be played smile.gif. Another aspect is to add some vibrato in your take at certain places (longer notes).

I would suggest that you keep practicing the shape shifts e.g. using this backing (you can use any standard blues backing for this exercise), as it really helps if you can on the spot shift positions all over the fretboard. These standard triad shapes can easily be expanded later on to 7th chords or even further, which enables you to improvise much better in the future without any preparations.

Maybe you already seen it, but I have attached a quick take on this assignment, to give a bit more insight it what can be possible with only a few notes.

Cheers
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Thanks for the reply smile.gif
Yea, I did keep it VERY simple because I just basically turned on the camera and the backing and played the shapes, plus I don't realy have any improv skills yet laugh.gif
I like your example over this backing, it definitely gives me a good idea what can be done over this backing with the shapes I know. I will practice over this for a few more days and see what i can come up with.
And also, I haven't submitted a take for my individual lesson, Jumping Around. I actually haven't had much time to practice it, but I just asked Muris for the backing a couple days ago and he sent it to me, so I can get further into that now that i have submitted my take for Pedja's collab as well smile.gif
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post Apr 28 2009, 09:10 PM
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Great! I'm glad that my example was helpful.

Looking forward to your Jumping Around take when ready smile.gif


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post May 1 2009, 02:14 AM
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Hey Roger! Okay, I recorded a video for my individual lesson, but I don't think you'll be too happy with the sound quality. My desktop caught a virus, something that's giving me a hard time to remove, so I disconnected it from the internet and am not using it for now, mostly because I don't want to risk losing everything I have on there, haha.
So I was able to record using my laptop to play the backing track and my crappy amp (which the volume level doesn't work well on at all, its either all the way down at 0, soft like what i recorded this video with, or ridiculously loud). The audio was captured by the video camera, so its not too good. Its the best i can do for now though, so hopefully its decent enough for you to critique. I just wanted to get something up to show you because I said I would by today, and I've already procrastinated this long enough.
I will have my desktop running as soon as I can, hopefully with all my data smile.gif
If not, I will be getting my other small practice amp this weekend from a friend which borrowed it a while back.
Well, here goes...

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post May 1 2009, 08:37 AM
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Thanks a lot for your take Luey, and I am glad that you send me this version, even if the sound quality isn't that good. I can surely see that you have worked quite a bit on this lesson.

Well, here we go with my comments smile.gif .

What I found great to hear was the fact that you had pretty good rhythmic placements of the notes, which is good to see, as you are surely making progress there! - you are ready to go towards the 16th notes, which is great smile.gif .
Regarding the sound, I would say that the major thing missing is some more distortion/overdrive to the sound, but that's something you know already wink.gif .

There are a couple of concerns though (and I am using a lot of text to make it clear to you, don't get discouraged about it smile.gif smile.gif , of which the following is the most important:

You tried to work really hard on your vibrato, which of course is great! However, by doing so you seem to develop the tendency to put your thumb under the fretboard, which probably gives you the feeling that it enables you to have a more constant vibrato movement. I remember from a while back that I had the same feeling, but you are also loosing your control, especially in situations where you do not have the time to go back with your thumb behind the fretboard. Bottomline is that I would advise you to put your thumb over the fretboard instead during bends and vibrato. This will give you much, much more control in practice and work on your vibrato originating from your whrist, irregardless which finger you are using to vibrate the string. When I started working on that, I could not believe that I would ever be able to do that, but after a while, starting with really slow vibrato it improved significantly. Also, the first finger is easier to achieve compared to the pinky, but time will definitely be your friend here.

Besides your left-hand posture issue, I noticed that your full bend from C to D was flat, so I would suggest that you isolate that bar for a while to practice playing first the D note (15th fret), followed by the bended D note (13th fret + 1 full). Continue doing this for a while and you will develop your muscle memory in order to bend to the right pitch immediately in the future. Again, time is your friend here.

Finally, take a look at the video of Muris regarding the fingering he is using. E.g. in the first passage when he played C - D - E on the 5th string, you shifted your position, which could be played by a stretched finger (1 - 2 - 4 e.g.). Of course this also means that the vibrato is played with the pinky, which is definitely more difficult, but you should try to follow the fingering of Muris in this lesson as good as possible.

What I would like you to do for your next take of this lesson is:
  1. Work on your left-hand posture (don't let your thumb go under the fretboard, look at Muris's video if you need a reference how to do it) --> most important aspect to improve wink.gif .
  2. Work on your bend to get it right.
  3. Work on applying vibrato, however I would be more than happy if you manage to do some slower vibrato from the whrist instead of the quite high frequency Muris is using in this lesson. It is a bit easier to start of using slower vibrato instead.
When we get these things improved a bit (and I am confident that we get there quite soonish smile.gif ), we can start working on the 2nd part of the lesson to get some 16th note phrasing in your playing as well (Pedja would be happy to hear this tongue.gif ).

Please post a video or even a fragment as soon as you can, so I can see whether you are on the right track with the above pointers.

If you have any questions, just shoot or we can have even a chat session or something smile.gif

Thanks and good luck!

Roger

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post May 5 2009, 10:13 PM
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Hey Roger, here's another take of the video, it is by no means the final one laugh.gif
I still need to get the bend right while recording. I swear man, when I'm just playing it normally, and not recording a video, I get the bend sounding just right about 95% of the time, once I hit record though, that drops down to 0% lol. I just have to keep recording more and more video of it I guess. So the bend is not right yet, maybe a bit better than last time, and i messed up on the note after the bend, it was a bit out of rhythm.
I am going to try to record another take in about an hour, if there are no interruptions, and I guarantee it'll be much better. I just wanted to show you this one to see if I correctly made the technical adjustments you suggested i make.
After a bit more fine tuning, I'll hopefully be able to move on with this lesson real soon smile.gif
Thanks man

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post May 6 2009, 07:31 AM
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Hey Roger, here's another take of the video, it is by no means the final one laugh.gif
I still need to get the bend right while recording. I swear man, when I'm just playing it normally, and not recording a video, I get the bend sounding just right about 95% of the time, once I hit record though, that drops down to 0% lol. I just have to keep recording more and more video of it I guess. So the bend is not right yet, maybe a bit better than last time, and i messed up on the note after the bend, it was a bit out of rhythm.
I am going to try to record another take in about an hour, if there are no interruptions, and I guarantee it'll be much better. I just wanted to show you this one to see if I correctly made the technical adjustments you suggested i make.
After a bit more fine tuning, I'll hopefully be able to move on with this lesson real soon smile.gif
Thanks man

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You are improving on it, good job! smile.gif

What I noticed now is that sometimes you are actually playing the patters without shifting your position, and sometimes you do. Try to be consistent in playing the patterns using your pinky. Also, if you need to stretch, put your thumb behind the neck which makes stretching far more easier than with the thumb around the neck.

In terms of your vibrato is sounds better than before, especially with the patterns played down on the fretboard (because your thumb is around the neck there more). Still keep practicing this vibrato specifically (very slow frequency) using the right left-hand posture, as it really determines how your solo will sound in the end.

Also, to improve your bend, please put your thumb around the neck and try to play it that way. It will surely be more consistent and stronger as you are currently putting your thumb behind the neck which is much more difficult to execute a proper bend.

Pay attention to your timing, there were a couple of times where your rhythmic placement was a bit off, probably because you were focussing a lot on vibrato/what to play. Try to really play as smoothly as possible exactly on time smile.gif

Keep it going mate, we are getting there, and after we nailed this lesson you will definitely have improved your vibrato, bending, left-hand posture and in the end also 16th note timing smile.gif

Looking forward to your next video!

Good luck!
Roger


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