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post Mar 3 2009, 10:20 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Mar 3 2009, 08:52 PM) *
those first 2 licks look pretty simple.

Are we playing them with no backing, just the kaz box? Or to the backing tracks on the lesson?

On this lesson I'm not gonna worry about the Kaz-box unless I see something in your posting that needs work. Sloppy timing, can't play a run up to speed etc,. You guys get free run on this one because it is pretty basic. If you can whip this whole lesson out this week Jer, have at it!! As soon as somebody gets it up to tempo I am gonna throw a little twist at them before I let them "graduate" to intermediate. smile.gif

If you guys can whip this out this week, knock yourself out. I just don't want to overload anybody. So first two licks at full tempo with the backing track and an embedded youtube vid would be great....The whole lesson would be even better.


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post Mar 4 2009, 03:23 AM
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This is a Lydian lesson...

Looking at the standard notation on muris's lesson I see 4 sharps.

Lydian is the 4th mode of the major scale.

Coincidence?

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post Mar 4 2009, 03:51 AM
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QUOTE (jer @ Mar 4 2009, 03:23 AM) *
This is a Lydian lesson...

Looking at the standard notation on muris's lesson I see 4 sharps.

Lydian is the 4th mode of the major scale.

Coincidence?

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Check out the 2nd note in the music. See the #, that note is "A#". So 4 sharps in the key signature and 1 sharp in the music itself=5 sharps total, Hence B major or E lydian. smile.gif
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post Mar 5 2009, 09:42 PM
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Alright Guys.....So instead of just having you guys be a bunch of Parrots and learn and regurgitate this first lesson in the Lydian serial I thought we would analyze it and figure out what is really going on here.

Of course.......I am gonna have you guys do the analysis though. smile.gif

We are doing this because it is cool to learn licks, but learning FROM licks......EVEN COOLER!! smile.gif

So here is the first one. The lick we are analyzing can be found at the bottom of the post.

First lick we are gonna break down is Lick 5 from the tab I had you guys download. If you didn't download it go back to the start of the thread and Get it:

BEGINNER LYDIAN PHRASING BY THE "BOSNIAN BEAST"---LICK 5:

So this lick is two bars long. The first half of the bar is played over an E major Chord and the 2nd half over and E+11. Bar two is played over an E major.

Here to break down the chord progression is JER....it's hard to believe that out of a million sperm.... that he was the fastest. tongue.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif

Take it away Jer.........


E

also known as Emaj = E G# B

The 11 of that would be A. Augmenting that would make it A#

So E 11+ is E, G#, B, A#

Why is it a Lydian chord? Well, looking at the chart for Lydian I see there is no E Lydian. That doesnt make sense to me.... Looking elsewhere I discover that E Lydian = E F# G# A# B C# D#

All of the notes of that chord are in the E Lydian scale. And compared to E Ionian its got the A# instead of the A.

So its Lydian-ness is supplied by that A#. So when I play that chord I would pick the A# just a bit harder and I'd kick my leg into theair a' la Yngwie to enphasize it.

-JER-



So Jer....Why does the tapping lick that the BOSNIAN BEAST plays here sound so COOL and SEXY when played over this chord progression?.......


Jedi master Muris is exhibiting typical coolness here.

Over the E chord (E, G# he is getting jiggy with these triplet licks. (1st half of bar 1)

E, A#, G# & D#, A#, G# Both licks have the A# so that should sound Lydian over the backing chord. And the 2nd lick has the D#, which is also in E Lydian. The D# is also the VII in the Emaj chord. So adding that in there fits nicely.

Then over the E11+ chord he is continuing the D#, A#, G# lick. The E 11+ chord is E, G#, B, A#. Again, the D# in the lick is the VII in the Emaj chord. So it fits well.

Then he drops to C#, A#, G# to finish off the bar. Still over the E11+ chord. That C# isn’t in the chord itself, but it is in the E Lydian scale.

In bar 2 we go back to the lick with D# in it. Which we covered above. And then the C# one again, then finally he finishes it by going down to B then E. Both of which are in E Lydian and E Ionian.



So… In a nutshell, he’s using the notes of the chord in the backing. And dancing around the other notes in the scale as well.

-JER-



GOOD JOB JER!!! \m/\m/

There you have it folks. Lick 5 from the Lydian Phrasing Beginner lesson by the Bosnian Beast broken down. Next up Opeth.db and Lick 6........

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post Mar 7 2009, 08:31 PM
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Here is my take. Kind of sloppy with the timing. This is not an easy solo timing wise. I still need to clean it up but here it is for now. smile.gif



Just waiting for you now Jer!! smile.gif \m/\m/
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post Mar 20 2009, 05:07 PM
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post Mar 22 2009, 04:17 AM
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Pretty good Kaz.

Nice guitar!

All that stood out to me on that was the bends. To me they all sound a touch flat.


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QUOTE (jer @ Mar 22 2009, 04:17 AM) *
Pretty good Kaz.

Nice guitar!

All that stood out to me on that was the bends. To me they all sound a touch flat.

Haha, sorry, I kinda rushed it.... Normaly my bends are ok, luckily. Guitar is Ibanez SA 08 LTD2 BAR, and I believe its kinda limited model.


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