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Les Paul
post Mar 6 2009, 09:41 PM
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I need some advice in getting a drum machine. I have zero knowledge in this area.

I need something to jam with the band, and for my own practice. My band plays Oasis stuff, and I mostly play Blues and Rock.

Some questions:
1) How do you listen to the drum machine out loud? Do I need another amp, or do I plug it into existing “cd in” jack in my current amp?
2) How do you record the drum track in recording software? I use Toneport UX2 & Mixcraft. Do I plug it into input jack on Toneport UX2, like I do with my guitar?

I was thinking about these two models; let me know if these models are good fit for me. I’m looking for user-friendly model, so that I don’t have to spend tons of hours to figure out how to program darn thing.

Alesis SR-18
http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.co...hine?sku=703240

Boss Dr. Rhythm DR-3
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post Mar 6 2009, 11:46 PM
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1. Drum machine has outputs so you can connect it to something that will play them louder, wetter it's Guitar amps cd in, or audio system of some sort.
2. Yes, but you can connect the drum machine guitar in 2 and your guitar into guitar in1 and record them both at once on separate tracks.
3. Both of these models are great, I think you will have to spend some time with them to learn how they work, but it will be worth it mate.

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post Mar 7 2009, 02:46 AM
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QUOTE (Les Paul @ Mar 6 2009, 09:41 PM) *
I need some advice in getting a drum machine. I have zero knowledge in this area.

I need something to jam with the band, and for my own practice. My band plays Oasis stuff, and I mostly play Blues and Rock.

Some questions:
1) How do you listen to the drum machine out loud? Do I need another amp, or do I plug it into existing “cd in” jack in my current amp?
2) How do you record the drum track in recording software? I use Toneport UX2 & Mixcraft. Do I plug it into input jack on Toneport UX2, like I do with my guitar?

I was thinking about these two models; let me know if these models are good fit for me. I’m looking for user-friendly model, so that I don’t have to spend tons of hours to figure out how to program darn thing.

Alesis SR-18
http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.co...hine?sku=703240

Boss Dr. Rhythm DR-3
http://drums-percussion.musiciansfriend.co...-DR3?sku=700510


1. Yes, you should plug it in "CD in" on amp , or into speakers system you have on your PC, headphones etc...
2.Yes you can do that, depending if you want it mono or stereo (and its ability to output stereo) , I would recommend connecting it to left and right line inputs on your ux2.Then you select your sound source to line 1&2 in gearbox software and hit the record button in your recording software.
3. Both devices look very high quality...I don't know which one is better...Drum machine is a great practice tool to replace metronome!


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post Mar 7 2009, 03:39 AM
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Thank you guys!

I'm definitely going to shop around eBay or Craigslist for a used one. Like mentioned, it's a better (& fun) replacement for metronome.
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post Mar 7 2009, 03:41 AM
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Perhaps you could use your laptop ( if you have one )
and install some drum VST on it. wink.gif


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post Mar 7 2009, 09:58 PM
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Sure, I support the idea that Muris said. I think the VST plug in is cooler. And you can write everything you want the drums to play.
I think is a good option


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post Mar 8 2009, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE (Ramiro Delforte @ Mar 7 2009, 04:58 PM) *
Sure, I support the idea that Muris said. I think the VST plug in is cooler. And you can write everything you want the drums to play.
I think is a good option


Software sounds like a smart choice. There are several out there including free ones. Software User Interface is lot friendlier to program than hardware ones. Here is an example I found:
http://www.acoustica.com/beatcraft/#examples

I will probably get a used hardware drum machine. I figure I should be able to buy one around $100 if I wait long enough wink.gif and then sell it off if I don't use it as much. It's seems like a better choice for me rather than lugging my laptop around everywhere.

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post Mar 8 2009, 04:23 PM
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just make your own beats here... or use some of the other ones and piece them toghether

http://www.8notes.com/drum_riffs/default.asp


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post Mar 9 2009, 12:08 AM
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Software is a good and flexible solution, but if you wanna portability, drum machines can be excellent thing as well. Besides they usually have MIDI through so you can use them as a hardware MIDI drum module for your DAW anyway wink.gif


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Also with software vstis that most sequencers come with a drum machine. For instance, Cubase has the LM1 that emulates the old Linn drum machine and Reason's is an emulation of the Roland TR808.

Hardware drum machines are more portable as Ivan says. With drum machines some of the things to watch for are - how easy is it to program, does it have multi outs (so you can send kick on one channel, snare on another etc), quality of the samples, samples expansion, no. of voices/multitimbral, no. of layers (everything at the same loudness or can you alter it), midi in, out and through...


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post Mar 11 2009, 07:31 PM
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I ended up getting used Boss DR-3 drum machine for about $80 USD from Craigslist. When I first started using the machine, I was ready to throw out the thing, as I got so fed up on trying to figure out how to program it.

Eventually, I figured out how to match the “pre-canned” drum beats to my guitar bits and it works great. I changed guitar’s rhythm a little to work with it, and it’s so much more fun than practicing with metronome. I’m really happy with the purchase now.

Thank you everyone for suggestions!

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post Mar 11 2009, 09:27 PM
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Congrats on getting the drum machine..Boss should be a very good choice...Of course those machines are "complicated" to use, so I recommend that you study thoroughly the users manual to learn how to use it properly! smile.gif Once you do figure it out, it will be much more fun! smile.gif


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post Mar 12 2009, 12:36 AM
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That seems like a good deal to me mate, congratulations! smile.gif


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QUOTE (Les Paul @ Mar 8 2009, 04:16 PM) *
I will probably get a used hardware drum machine. I figure I should be able to buy one around $100 if I wait long enough wink.gif and then sell it off if I don't use it as much. It's seems like a better choice for me rather than lugging my laptop around everywhere.

Thank you guys again!


One more thing, VSTs are cool and everything but for me nothing beats the dedicated hardware machine..Especially these drum machines which are easy to carry around and are made for practicing....Programming a VSTs to do what you want can be slow and "turn of" sometimes when you're practicing...Especially need to be around PC can be annoying.


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