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post Mar 7 2009, 11:16 AM
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For the last, well i guess 6 months i've been pretty much focusing on rhythm guitar, and i have to say it has worked. My riffs have improved and i have to thank GMC members for part of that for the help along the way. I have better rhythmic ideas and although i think i've still got a long way to go as far as arranging is concerned it is improving at least.

This means i've been abandoning lead guitar stuff and i only really know a couple of solos and that's it. One of them is from here on GMC. I'd like to know what some good solos to start on would be. I'm going to be making a practice schedule that'll hopefully involve some techniques that i can practice but i'd like to be able to play something as well. Cheers
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post Mar 7 2009, 12:02 PM
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It would be a good idea to start off with some lead "theory" lessons like https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...ming-exercises/ .
Its better to learn the theory behind a solo and try to improvise your own then to start learning famous ones note for note.


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post Mar 7 2009, 12:36 PM
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There are many great solos out there Steve
but for most of them you'd have to figure out theory part by yourself.
I would suggest you to learn as many solo lessons from GMC as possible,
try to analyze everything that is written about them regarding theory and techniques,
then slowly apply those rules and licks in order to create your own solos.


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post Mar 7 2009, 02:32 PM
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I would advise learning any solos you like from GMC, but analysing how they are written and played. So you can compose and improvise your own solos better. smile.gif
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post Mar 7 2009, 02:32 PM
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In order to learn from the solos and to apply phrases you have learned, you have to know a bit about theory, scales, arpeggios, how they are built, and most importantly, harmony, which key you're in, which is the chord over which you improvise....It's isn't so difficult, you need to know the basics, then you can proceed slowly towards something more interesting.


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post Mar 7 2009, 09:55 PM
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I think it depends on the style you're looking for....
I know Muris wouldn't recommend his lessons but he's a great player and has some really nice solos to learn. So if you're looking for something related to rock could be some lessons by him. Or if you're into Death/Epic/Power Metal solos you could search for some Lian's lessons.
Once you've decided on which style you're going to work then pick some solos and try to see how they made them and of course you can ask the instructor if it isn't clear enough with the explanation on the lesson.

I hope this will help you biggrin.gif


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post Mar 7 2009, 10:55 PM
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First of all congratulations on improving your rhythm guitar skills. That is very important and often overlooked area of guitar playing !

When it comes to soloing, first thing you can do is take some chord progression you already know (the ones you played rhythm guitar on) and now solo using those chords (arpeggio shapes). This will give you very strong sound and unlock arpeggio shapes all over the neck (especially if you apply CAGED system with chords !).

You can always learn a lot here at GMC, just go trough base of lessons and search by difficulty or style that suits you - that should do the work for time being wink.gif


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post Mar 7 2009, 11:45 PM
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Unfortunatly at the moment the only way i can do GMC lessons is to learn them by ear, which is fine i guess but unable to see text. But i can work them out i guess. Yeah i think maybe making a backing track might help but i'm not great at that either but i suppose i have to practice making my own solos at some point. I like a lot of different styles of solos to be honest so anything that sounds good to me smile.gif
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post Mar 8 2009, 12:11 AM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Mar 7 2009, 11:45 PM) *
Unfortunatly at the moment the only way i can do GMC lessons is to learn them by ear, which is fine i guess but unable to see text. But i can work them out i guess. Yeah i think maybe making a backing track might help but i'm not great at that either but i suppose i have to practice making my own solos at some point. I like a lot of different styles of solos to be honest so anything that sounds good to me smile.gif


Learning by ear can be very rewarding and beneficial experience so you are only gaining there. Downside is it may take you longer then guys who read tabs but in long run your ear will be more improved for sure compared to all of them wink.gif

What kind of recording software do you use ?
Making backing tracks will help you understand role of other instruments in whole band. Guitar part is one thing , bass is closest you can get to guitar, piano is also similar but different in range and then its a whole other story on drum parts.
Give it a go, you have nothing to loose, and feel free to ask any questions Steve smile.gif


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post Mar 8 2009, 12:14 AM
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QUOTE (Bogdan Radovic @ Mar 7 2009, 12:02 PM) *
It would be a good idea to start off with some lead "theory" lessons like https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...ming-exercises/ .
Its better to learn the theory behind a solo and try to improvise your own then to start learning famous ones note for note.

So true Bogdan!!! smile.gif
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post Mar 8 2009, 12:33 AM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Mar 8 2009, 01:11 AM) *
Learning by ear can be very rewarding and beneficial experience so you are only gaining there. Downside is it may take you longer then guys who read tabs but in long run your ear will be more improved for sure compared to all of them wink.gif

What kind of recording software do you use ?
Making backing tracks will help you understand role of other instruments in whole band. Guitar part is one thing , bass is closest you can get to guitar, piano is also similar but different in range and then its a whole other story on drum parts.
Give it a go, you have nothing to loose, and feel free to ask any questions Steve smile.gif


Yeah i've been advising people to learn by ear as i've been seeing the benefits. Although some stuff is really hard. I use some ear training software as well but at the moment it's just recognising notes (at the moment the notes in A minor pentatonic). I will also at some point upload some riffs i've done but i'd like to make a full track to upload to GMC.

To be honest i hear leads and stuff in my head over a full backing and i think how can i hear that sutff :S but it's cool that i do. A lot of the time though they include fast runs that i've no chance of playing right now. But i'd like to be able to play those things
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post Mar 8 2009, 06:19 PM
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post Mar 9 2009, 01:50 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Mar 8 2009, 07:19 PM) *
Have you studied scales and modes steve?


I know some scales Ivan, but it is on my list of things to do right now. As i'm starting to do lead stuff again i will get back into scales but admitedly it's only really the Aeolian scale i know at the moment.

I've had practice schedules and stuff before but to be honest they don't last very long because i get sick of playing just excercises and not actually playing anything music wise which i why i kind of want something to start from.
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post Mar 9 2009, 01:56 PM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Mar 8 2009, 12:33 AM) *
Yeah i've been advising people to learn by ear as i've been seeing the benefits. Although some stuff is really hard. I use some ear training software as well but at the moment it's just recognising notes (at the moment the notes in A minor pentatonic). I will also at some point upload some riffs i've done but i'd like to make a full track to upload to GMC.

To be honest i hear leads and stuff in my head over a full backing and i think how can i hear that sutff :S but it's cool that i do. A lot of the time though they include fast runs that i've no chance of playing right now. But i'd like to be able to play those things


Thats great to hear that you are recognizing things by ear already !
What ear training software are you using, if its not a secret ? biggrin.gif

Upload some riffs in upload section on forum, that would be great to check out and see where you are scale wise, melodic wise and rhythm and harmony wise wink.gif

Let me know if you need any assistance Steve


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post Mar 10 2009, 12:23 PM
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It's called functional ear trainer, the basic version though as that's all i need for now. As said i'm doing A minor pentatonic to begin with in ear trainign which means i can just select the individual notes. At the moment it's just in one octave but i'm hoping to be able to move that to all octaves soon. I generally get around 85 - 90%.

Yeah it's on my list of things to do although i never really know how you want to hear them, whether as part of a song or with drums/backing or just dry on their own, not really sure how peopel want to really assess how good or bad they are at the moment.
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post Mar 10 2009, 12:29 PM
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Just dry might work at first ! If you can record them with some sort of metronome click thats even better.
When you have a riff then you can analyze drum part and say I want accent in this part here and things like that. Ideally you want to be doing it all at once !

When I am doing lessons, usually I go trough different groves, find one that I like the most and then I adjust my rhythm playing to that groove smile.gif Thats another way you can with wink.gif


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