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post Mar 9 2009, 03:14 PM
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So I unplugged my pod XT and my UX2 last night to move some stuff around and ended up plugged straight into my amp to have a bit of a play, unbeleivable!! The sounds were completely different through the little vox, I found myself jamming along to some old peter Green stuff with my strat and some beautiful clean ringing tones, I couldnt put it down!

Does the line 6 gear kill the natural tones or what? anyone else experience this too?
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post Mar 9 2009, 04:11 PM
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Real Amp Sound >>>>> Modeling Stuff

I can't stand modeling at all^^


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post Mar 9 2009, 04:54 PM
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Real Amp will always sound better the modeling stuff...Its just the way things are... smile.gif


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post Mar 9 2009, 06:17 PM
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Analog sound is analog sound - it remains analog from guitar to speaker and it is the real guitar sound. Digital units smear the sound, kill dynamics, cut off frequencies cause they go through ADA converters. Each one has it's pros and cons of course..

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post Mar 10 2009, 08:09 PM
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I've always preferred the clean sounds on my GT-10...when switching between pickups, they really sound different from one another, just like they should. If I play just through my amp, they sound pretty much the same, uninteresting...

I guess for me, the opposite is true...

This is why I use my amp only as a power-amp/speaker, with the Boss plugged directly to the FX-return jack of the amp.

Dunno man, never tried a Line 6...


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post Mar 10 2009, 08:14 PM
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Nowadays the modelers like pod are doing a very good job but there is nothing like a real amp. However let's see what happen in the future. I think that the companies (like line 6) will find the way to make the modelers sound exactly like a real amp but we have to wait.


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post Mar 10 2009, 09:49 PM
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I beleive the new Fractal rack mounted Axe-Fx unit is about the best modelling around at the moment, its getting some rave reviews here.

http://www.fractalaudio.com/products-fa-axefx.html

I'll probably get rid of my Line 6 stuff in favour of a more traditional tube amp and some bespoke pedals, I just dont use its capabilities anyway!
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post Mar 10 2009, 09:54 PM
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ive always liked the cheapness and convenience of modelers


however, ill agree that they dont sound as good.


however!


a digital amp can sound very good if it is its own sound!

IE roland jazz chorus...it isnt modeling anything, its it own amp...it doesnt try to model tubes or anything....and thats why its so loved!


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the old "real vs modeled" debate.

This one is always real interesting.

I stand behind "Nobody can tell when your cd is recorded and its all said and done."

And not only that, but hardly anyone cares anyway.

Petrucci may be standing in front of $50,000 worth of endorsed gear on stage.

But give him a $500 modeler and a good engineer in the studio and I think we'd hear the same Dream Theater records.

Just my .02



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post Mar 11 2009, 02:53 AM
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QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Mar 10 2009, 09:54 PM) *
ive always liked the cheapness and convenience of modelers


however, ill agree that they dont sound as good.


however!


a digital amp can sound very good if it is its own sound!

IE roland jazz chorus...it isnt modeling anything, its it own amp...it doesnt try to model tubes or anything....and thats why its so loved!


Roland Jazz Chorus is as analog as it gets. It's a solid state amp tho. Roland has always made a good gear that sounds clean and transparent. This is probably why it is adored by jazz players a lot.



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