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Pedja Simovic
post Mar 16 2009, 03:01 AM
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QUOTE (GrannyKiller @ Mar 16 2009, 03:00 AM) *
Extra! biggrin.gif Thanks man!

This type of collab is a great lesson by itself. wink.gif


No problem and you welcome !
I agree with you, it should be very rewarding experience for all participants wink.gif


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post Mar 20 2009, 12:40 AM
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Ok, this is not an outstanding solo laugh.gif, but it's an improvised take i did today. I wanted to focus on improvisation in this class collab and to be limited on only chord notes in each bar turned out to be quite difficult actually. It's easy to jam over this backing, but each time i added "not allowed" notes.

Attached File  Pedja_Class_2_Arpeggios_wbt.mp3 ( 872.09K ) Number of downloads: 146
Attached File  Pedja_Class_2_Arpeggios_nbt.mp3 ( 825.29K ) Number of downloads: 92


I will try to do another take if there is still some time left.




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post Mar 20 2009, 12:47 AM
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QUOTE (wrk @ Mar 20 2009, 12:40 AM) *
Ok, this is not an outstanding solo laugh.gif, but it's an improvised take i did today. I wanted to focus on improvisation in this class collab and to be limited on only chord notes in each bar turned out to be quite difficult actually. It's easy to jam over this backing, but each time i added "not allowed" notes.

Attached File  Pedja_Class_2_Arpeggios_wbt.mp3 ( 872.09K ) Number of downloads: 146
Attached File  Pedja_Class_2_Arpeggios_nbt.mp3 ( 825.29K ) Number of downloads: 92


I will try to do another take if there is still some time left.


Cool take Andy, this works wink.gif However you know what I will say right ? smile.gif Do more takes if you want to, always good thing as you can learn from each take you do about your style and correct things you don't like.


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post Mar 20 2009, 01:05 AM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Mar 20 2009, 12:47 AM) *
Cool take Andy, this works wink.gif However you know what I will say right ? smile.gif Do more takes if you want to, always good thing as you can learn from each take you do about your style and correct things you don't like.

I should practice this approach much more. This collab helps a lot to finally sit down and just do it. It's really rewarding to be more aware of what i play ..

If i come up with another take i will for sure upload it. Thanks Pedja smile.gif




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post Mar 20 2009, 01:16 AM
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QUOTE (wrk @ Mar 20 2009, 01:05 AM) *
I should practice this approach much more. This collab helps a lot to finally sit down and just do it. It's really rewarding to be more aware of what i play ..

If i come up with another take i will for sure upload it. Thanks Pedja smile.gif


I couldn't agree more with you Andy. Very rewarding and at the same thing ear developing I hope for most members. If you do it long enough ear will pick up root in melody, 3rd, 5th etc , which is whole other topic smile.gif

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post Mar 20 2009, 12:25 PM
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Hi Pedja! Here is my take
Attached File  Arpeggios_collab_no_BT.mp3 ( 565.33K ) Number of downloads: 100
Attached File  Arpeggios_collab_BT.mp3 ( 565.33K ) Number of downloads: 133


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post Mar 20 2009, 01:09 PM
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QUOTE (Sergio Dorado @ Mar 20 2009, 12:25 PM) *
Hi Pedja! Here is my take
Attached File  Arpeggios_collab_no_BT.mp3 ( 565.33K ) Number of downloads: 100
Attached File  Arpeggios_collab_BT.mp3 ( 565.33K ) Number of downloads: 133


Hi Sergio,

For this in class type collaboration I am just asking for arpeggios/chord tones that follow the actual chord progression. I heard various tensions on G7 and a lot of superimposing on other chords, therefore I can't accept this take for final mix.
Having said all this, musically speaking there is nothing wrong with this take, it just doesn't match the standards of what this collaboration is all about.
If you get the chance record a simpler take just by following arpeggios/chord tones of actual chord progression.

Thanks Sergio !

P.S. I know you can play more than that but right now its about playing less not more wink.gif


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post Mar 20 2009, 02:02 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Mar 20 2009, 01:09 PM) *
Hi Sergio,

For this in class type collaboration I am just asking for arpeggios/chord tones that follow the actual chord progression. I heard various tensions on G7 and a lot of superimposing on other chords, therefore I can't accept this take for final mix.
Having said all this, musically speaking there is nothing wrong with this take, it just doesn't match the standards of what this collaboration is all about.
If you get the chance record a simpler take just by following arpeggios/chord tones of actual chord progression.

Thanks Sergio !

P.S. I know you can play more than that but right now its about playing less not more wink.gif


Ok Pedja, I´m sorry. I understood the idea of chord tones and arpeggios, but i did´n t know that substitutions weren´t allowed (in this particular collab). I´ll try another take.


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post Mar 20 2009, 04:15 PM
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QUOTE (Sergio Dorado @ Mar 20 2009, 02:02 PM) *
Ok Pedja, I´m sorry. I understood the idea of chord tones and arpeggios, but i did´n t know that substitutions weren´t allowed (in this particular collab). I´ll try another take.


No problem Sergio. I am sorry if there was any misunderstanding. I look forward to your final take !


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post Mar 20 2009, 08:18 PM
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Here is my entry. Is nothing special, but I wanted to join do get some advises from you.



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post Mar 20 2009, 08:30 PM
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QUOTE (Deleted @ Mar 20 2009, 08:18 PM) *
Here is my entry. Is nothing special, but I wanted to join do get some advises from you.


Cool but I think you missed to upload your take here smile.gif


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post Mar 20 2009, 09:47 PM
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ok here is my try
hope that this is what you are looking for, was very difficult for me to find because this area is completely new to me

its not really speedy runs but i like the melody and in my oppinion it fits great to the backing rolleyes.gif

some kind of funny sound like in the film "the clou" *hehehe*
hope you like it

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post Mar 20 2009, 10:29 PM
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QUOTE (big harry @ Mar 20 2009, 09:47 PM) *
ok here is my try
hope that this is what you are looking for, was very difficult for me to find because this area is completely new to me

its not really speedy runs but i like the melody and in my oppinion it fits great to the backing rolleyes.gif

some kind of funny sound like in the film "the clou" *hehehe*
hope you like it

Harry


Melodic take Harry but it has non chord tones. Again I am just looking for arpeggios and chord tones.

C maj7 = C E G B
A min7 = A C E G
D min7 = D F A C
G7 = G B D F
E min7 = E G B D


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post Mar 21 2009, 02:52 AM
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Here's my take Pedja.
Gotta say that this was a great exercise. I'm not terribly satisfied with my take though. I either recorded it too hot, or with too much gain. ...probably both for this style. Still, for the purposes of this lesson, I think I did ok to stay with the chord tones. Looking forward to your feedback. Thanks again for the focused topic. This is something I can keep working on and use forever in my solos. Please auto-sign me up for the next one! smile.gif

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Attached File  20090320_Pedja_Arpeggio_noBacking.mp3 ( 832.65K ) Number of downloads: 113




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QUOTE (JamesT @ Mar 21 2009, 02:52 AM) *
Here's my take Pedja.
Gotta say that this was a great exercise. I'm not terribly satisfied with my take though. I either recorded it too hot, or with too much gain. ...probably both for this style. Still, for the purposes of this lesson, I think I did ok to stay with the chord tones. Looking forward to your feedback. Thanks again for the focused topic. This is something I can keep working on and use forever in my solos. Please auto-sign me up for the next one! smile.gif

Attached File  20090320_Pedja_Arpeggio_wBacking.mp3 ( 832.65K ) Number of downloads: 162

Attached File  20090320_Pedja_Arpeggio_noBacking.mp3 ( 832.65K ) Number of downloads: 113

very nice james...


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post Mar 21 2009, 03:59 AM
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QUOTE (JamesT @ Mar 21 2009, 02:52 AM) *
Here's my take Pedja.
Gotta say that this was a great exercise. I'm not terribly satisfied with my take though. I either recorded it too hot, or with too much gain. ...probably both for this style. Still, for the purposes of this lesson, I think I did ok to stay with the chord tones. Looking forward to your feedback. Thanks again for the focused topic. This is something I can keep working on and use forever in my solos. Please auto-sign me up for the next one! smile.gif

Attached File  20090320_Pedja_Arpeggio_wBacking.mp3 ( 832.65K ) Number of downloads: 162

Attached File  20090320_Pedja_Arpeggio_noBacking.mp3 ( 832.65K ) Number of downloads: 113

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post Mar 21 2009, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE (JamesT @ Mar 21 2009, 02:52 AM) *
Here's my take Pedja.
Gotta say that this was a great exercise. I'm not terribly satisfied with my take though. I either recorded it too hot, or with too much gain. ...probably both for this style. Still, for the purposes of this lesson, I think I did ok to stay with the chord tones. Looking forward to your feedback. Thanks again for the focused topic. This is something I can keep working on and use forever in my solos. Please auto-sign me up for the next one! smile.gif

Attached File  20090320_Pedja_Arpeggio_wBacking.mp3 ( 832.65K ) Number of downloads: 162

Attached File  20090320_Pedja_Arpeggio_noBacking.mp3 ( 832.65K ) Number of downloads: 113


Jim this was very well done take. It sounded very musical and you followed all the instructions.
If I had to be picky and pick a weak spot, it was the very ending when you were coming down over D min7 chord. At one point you played non chord note which is not good smile.gif So if you get a chance to record it again but correct that one mistake, it would be absolutely perfect !
I am glad you enjoyed this focused topic. I totally agree with you, this is something you can put in your practice routine and work for a long time. The point is eventually to stop thinking of shapes and make music with it - which you did to most extent in your solo !
I will auto-sign you for next one no worries biggrin.gif


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Ok Pedja, here I come

This is my first rough approach, I kept it slow and laid back - but maybe a bit too laid back especially when listening to the other takes with overdrive, arpeggios and such. Maybe - to keep up with the majority of the takes - i will post another go at it.

I hope I understood the "voice leading" idea correctly because I tried to apply it a few times when switching chords.

It's a great backing, thanks for the opportunity cool.gif

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QUOTE (berko @ Mar 21 2009, 03:33 PM) *
Ok Pedja, here I come

This is my first rough approach, I kept it slow and laid back - but maybe a bit too laid back especially when listening to the other takes with overdrive, arpeggios and such. Maybe - to keep up with the majority of the takes - i will post another go at it.

I hope I understood the "voice leading" idea correctly because I tried to apply it a few times when switching chords.

It's a great backing, thanks for the opportunity cool.gif

Attached File  chordtone_collab_berko_w_BT.mp3 ( 817.06K ) Number of downloads: 127

Attached File  chordtone_collab_berko_noBT.mp3 ( 817.06K ) Number of downloads: 100


Berko this was spot on !
You did everything I asked for regarding soloing approach.

On the side note, your phrasing is weak in some sections (sounds like you are ahead or behind changes) so thats something I would correct in next take.

Overall I won't grade you on phrasing but it would be nice to have everything in sync.
Very good work with arpeggios and chord tones, you also applied voice leading which was cool !

Thank you Berko smile.gif


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