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> Phrygian Soloing Beginner, My half decent effort:P
Marek Rojewski
post Mar 9 2009, 09:18 PM
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Lydian Phrasing Beginner lesson was my MTP assignment, but another half of our group had this lesson instead. Well instead of polishing what I should I decided to give the phrygian lesson a try. I never learned to sweep so the "little sweeps" that were in the lesson were a challenge for me anyway mellow.gif On the other hand there were no "faster" parts as in the lydian lesson, so I had no need to use the KAZ-BOX ( metronome ) to obtain full speed at any point. Of course it means that I practiced this lesson for a short period of time, and there will be some mistakes dry.gif

Anywhere, here it is:



I hope that it can be noticed, that I tried to do what I was advised after uploading the lydian one - wrap my thumb around the neck more while playing, and focus on using more than one finger to bend when possible.

As always comments, criticism and advice is appreciated and welcome:)


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post Mar 11 2009, 03:18 AM
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Sounds good man, keep up the practice and you'll rock soon enough.

Could you give a link to the lesson please.
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Marek Rojewski
post Mar 11 2009, 09:29 AM
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Well it is easy to find it, just typed "phrygian beginner" in the search engine on the main site. Anyway here is the link.

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post Mar 11 2009, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE (Marek Rojewski @ Mar 11 2009, 09:29 AM) *
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Nice take Marek !! Well done for this short time you worked on it ...
I always think at this point starts the fun part when working on a solo. You have the notes down. Put the backing on loop (best feature of the player imo) and play it over and over again. At some point you don't need to think about the notes anymore and can fully concentrate on details. Connect the note nicely together, the first 15 seconds for example, you could try to play this part in one flow .. let the notes ring longer and lead to each other.

I would say you could wrap your thumb even a bit more around the neck. You move the thumb up at around 0:11 for the first bend and after you hide it again. Maybe it's feels different for you, but it looks like if the finger which is fretting the note is the only connection to the neck and it seems to be a bit "unstable". This will help you as well when you go to the next note, because you need another connection of your hand to the neck in this moment .. try to have the neck in your hand and not just resting on your thumb. Hope my suggestions makes sense ..



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Muris Varajic
post Mar 11 2009, 10:42 AM
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QUOTE (wrk @ Mar 11 2009, 10:19 AM) *
Nice take Marek !! Well done for this short time you worked on it ...
I always think at this point starts the fun part when working on a solo. You have the notes down. Put the backing on loop (best feature of the player imo) and play it over and over again. At some point you don't need to think about the notes anymore and can fully concentrate on details. Connect the note nicely together, the first 15 seconds for example, you could try to play this part in one flow .. let the notes ring longer and lead to each other.

I would say you could wrap your thumb even a bit more around the neck. You move the thumb up at around 0:11 for the first bend and after you hide it again. Maybe it's feels different for you, but it looks like if the finger which is fretting the note is the only connection to the neck and it seems to be a bit "unstable". This will help you as well when you go to the next note, because you need another connection of your hand to the neck in this moment .. try to have the neck in your hand and not just resting on your thumb. Hope my suggestions makes sense ..


Agree, notes could be better connected and wrap thumb more,
rest of it was very nice tho! smile.gif


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post Mar 11 2009, 10:44 AM
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This is a great take man! If you're still only starting to dive into soloing - it's even better then. cool.gif

I'm not sure if you actually set the gain too low for this one. The notes die away instantly and I'm not sure whether it's only you who releases the strings. When doing the arpeggios, however, it seems that the sustain is not enough! But the tone was very well selected for the backing, and if you could at least hold the notes till the next one comes it would be even better. Try to apply some gentle vibrato in the meanwhile, and for this lesson only a little of it is perfectly enough!

And what wrk said: when you play on the higher notes you let the neck loose and you're balancing with your thumb. Now, there are many approaches about how to hold the neck in what circumstances (Ian for example does something similar to you in his lessons) but for now if you could keep the neck running along your palm and thus fixing you hand position it could become more easier. This, of course, requires a bit of practice since the altered hand position has ofc a bit different feeling to it.

Otherwise keep up the good work Marek! It's nice to see that you've started working on solos now cool.gif


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post Mar 11 2009, 10:47 AM
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Thanks Wrk and Muris:) I agree that the sound I recorded sounds "fragmented", don't flow nicely, a small bit of it is because of the effect I used, but all in all playing it 100 times more would probably help most for it:D The thumb must find his way wink.gif ph34r.gif

Berko - thanks! Must dwell into different ways of holding the neck, it makes much sense! You can be right with the tone also, I altered a tone that had very much distortion, so learned to mute as much as I could. After lowering the gain, it may be to little for this lesson.

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post Mar 11 2009, 02:00 PM
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Well played. Sounds great! However, I think that technique you used for that vibrato in the beginning is wrong, sounds good but your left hand positions should be different.


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