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post Mar 16 2009, 05:12 AM
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Hi guys. Recently I've been looking for a good handheld recording device to facilitate easy and portable yet quality recording whenever I need it, without having to go through my toneport GX with my shure sm57 mic. I still want to use the SM57, but I want to broaden my capabilities so that I can easily record acoustic stuff, room band situations, etc.

My brother was a journalist and is now a film student, and he uses the Zoom H4 to get his audio, and he highly suggests zoom's line of handheld gadgets. The H2 and the H4N also look very cool.

I was hoping I could rely on you guys to look over the features and let me know what you think as far as what would meet my needs for the lowest price. Anyone have experience with these in recording guitar, bass, or vocals?


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post Mar 16 2009, 06:55 AM
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No, but I have heard really good things about them from one of my friends (whom has a good ear for a self proclaimed gear critic). They are sort of expensive though.

He said his old band would use it to record practices, and it worked fairly well. I'm not sure how they handle loud volumes, but they must just fine if my friend could record a practice with them. My snowball condenser mic can't handle really loud volumes like drums (although it does record bass very very well).

This maybe your best option is one of these little puppies. I see them around in many stores, so they must sell.


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post Mar 16 2009, 12:48 PM
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This looks like a cool device, for that money it's the only solution available for recording something fast in stereo in studio.
PS But check out what memory it uses. You will need almost certainly another memory card, cause they ship only 128MB with the device. This is enough for like an hour of CD quality. If you plan to record the whole rehearsal which is minimum 2hours, than you need a better memory card.
Also you will need more microphones with this. I"m not entirely sure what are your plans with recording this device


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post Mar 16 2009, 01:18 PM
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My wife and I looked at various portable/hand helds some time back to use for radio interviews in the field as a backup to our Marantz HD CDR420. The Zoom was fine for the price at the time but not really, imo, much better/worse then most of them in the same price bracket - my wife liked the Marantz PDM620 best but that may have been familiarity. We ended up going safe with the radio industry standard from Maycom - ideal for voice but only ok for other stuff - but voice interviews is what we needed.

After we looked Yamaha released its own handhelds - the pocketrak CX and 2G - and they are well worth a look. IMO I think they the CX is one of the best handhelds below 400 USD - RRP is actually a bit above 400USD but you can get it cheaper. (The 2g is ok, a lot cheaper, but a bit too limited.)


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post Mar 16 2009, 01:47 PM
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I got a Zoom h4 and it is prety nice for the price, mmostly of my Giuliani lessons and the Marcelo Villegas Style series were recorded in that device (used an AKG 414 and a Behringer C2 into the mic input of the H4). Althought I think it is not a profesional device, at least it will get you some nice wav recording for single track porposes, and has 2 nice things, decent condenser mics atached, and use AA bateries and also support (and you will get the most of it) a AC adaptor.


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post Mar 16 2009, 03:47 PM
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Check out this very useful review of many popular handheld recorders, lots of useful info there!!

LINK : http://www.eqmag.com/article/portable-reco...ld/oct-08/88265


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Thanks for the link bogdan, very informative. I like the looks of the Tascam DR-1. Looks like it would be between that and the Zoom H4.

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post Mar 16 2009, 08:28 PM
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QUOTE (JVM @ Mar 15 2009, 09:12 PM) *
Hi guys. Recently I've been looking for a good handheld recording device to facilitate easy and portable yet quality recording whenever I need it, without having to go through my toneport GX with my shure sm57 mic. I still want to use the SM57, but I want to broaden my capabilities so that I can easily record acoustic stuff, room band situations, etc.

My brother was a journalist and is now a film student, and he uses the Zoom H4 to get his audio, and he highly suggests zoom's line of handheld gadgets. The H2 and the H4N also look very cool.

I was hoping I could rely on you guys to look over the features and let me know what you think as far as what would meet my needs for the lowest price. Anyone have experience with these in recording guitar, bass, or vocals?



how do you manage using a mic with the toneport gx? i have a mic, but i have troubles with the recording volume...do you turn gain/compressor up?


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QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Mar 16 2009, 03:28 PM) *
how do you manage using a mic with the toneport gx? i have a mic, but i have troubles with the recording volume...do you turn gain/compressor up?


How loud do you play?


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post Mar 16 2009, 11:41 PM
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Since GX doesn't have a mic preamp, the only way to get level high enough is to increase the gain. This however will lead to noise, since the noise will also be amplified. It is best to use mic preamp with GX if you want a good quality. Nevertheless, I used dynamic mic on the guitar input of my UX1 before, and it serves the purpose if you are not recording something that needs to be HQ.


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post Mar 26 2009, 01:12 PM
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Hey guys, I bought a Tascam Dr-1 yesterday on ebay for a great price. It should be here sometime next week, and also I got a decent webcam that I plan to join the MTP and REC program with smile.gif Any tips on syncing webcam video and seperate audio?


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Best way be to use Sony Vegas video editing software...If you can't afford it you can do it in windows movie maker too.


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QUOTE (JVM @ Mar 26 2009, 01:12 PM) *
Hey guys, I bought a Tascam Dr-1 yesterday on ebay for a great price. It should be here sometime next week, and also I got a decent webcam that I plan to join the MTP and REC program with smile.gif Any tips on syncing webcam video and seperate audio?


Congratulations mate! smile.gif You can sync video and audio in any video editing application (Sony Vegas Movie Studio is cheap and great). If you have audio signal on your video (for example Webcam has a mic) you can use that audio to sync the peaks with the audio from Tascam. If you don't have the audio, you can use the movie "clap" method, where you strumm the strings once in the beginning of the shooting, so you specify an event on where to put the audio.



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