Daft Punk Synth Effect
Darfuria
Mar 28 2009, 01:23 PM
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I'm wondering if it's possible to reproduce this sort of sound with a POD or a piece of software like Guitar Rig. It sounds as if they're using some variety of synthesiser and a wah pedal though.

Check out this video and listen to the lead about 3:00 in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kTqrNISqqmU

Any thoughts?

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Mar 28 2009, 01:44 PM
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I think it's a Keyboard lead and not a guitar lead, and I have no idea about Keyboad effects and synths...

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Mar 28 2009, 06:46 PM
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Hm you could probably do it using a ring modulator or a guitar synth. I think there's stuff like that in a modeling pack for the pod. The Boss GT-10 can also do similar effects. I quickly checked the guitar rig website, looks like they've got a ring modulator too.

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Ivan Milenkovic
Mar 28 2009, 09:40 PM
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I don't know about POD, but you can make similar effect in Guitar Rig with some overdrive, EQing, Ring modulator and some filters.

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Darfuria
Mar 28 2009, 11:44 PM
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Ivan - I'll give it a go. I'm not much of an effects manipulator in Guitar Rig unfortunately. Anyway, thanks for letting me know it's possible wink.gif

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Ivan Milenkovic
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No prob mate smile.gif GR has an "FX" bank/section where they already made some presets similar to what you're looking for. Perhaps those presets could be a good starting point for tweaking.

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Okay, I've tried and tried and tried with this one, but made nothing but infuriating progress, and haven't come up with anything that sounds quite like it.

Does anyone else fancy having a go?

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I'm guessing a bit as the 'video link is blocked in my country'. From what I recall of Daft Punk it's probably a Moog LFO sweeping into a VCO filter bank or similar - so 29a above is pretty close imho and it will be some sort of oscillator.

I don't think you'll get quite that sound though on any hardware guitar effect short of a moog or similar filter bank. With a guitar effect I don't think they'll do a filter out as the input in to another oscillator (G3 or Pod) - that requires a type of loopback and I don't think these things generally support this. I don't have one so I may well be wrong though.

Software VST wise there are a number of plug ins that could probably do this sort of thing. You could try some of the emulation ones - I'm guessing that it's a Moog, though it may not be, but a Minimoog or similar might be able to get this. Else a Yamaha CS30/ ARP2000.

Alternatively you could try developing from a filter bank, Sherman made a hardware one some time back but from memory it wasn't that cheap - a few hundred pounds. I think there's a software filterbank called 'Cycling 74' or something like that on the Mac? Some pro end multifx like the Eventide Eclipse can do this, and I guess TC Major etc have their own versions.

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I'm not going to say I'm right and everyone else is wrong here because when it comes down to it, with Daft Punk, there's no telling what they did. It's kinda like Nine Inch Nails...they play a studio...so there's a lot of possibilities.

I do agree that it sounds like a keyboard solo that's meant to sound like a guitar solo. I don't have any evidence to back that up, except that I don't think I've heard of Daft Punk ever using guitars more than in samples.

As for the sound itself, I don't think it's a ringmod kind of sound. To me it sounds like a bitcrusher type of effect as the main sound. The wah kind of sound on top of that sounds almost like a talkbox, but a lot of their songs have that vocal-ish sounding wah effect somewhere in them. Maybe some kind of odd vocoder treatment.

There's probably a bunch of ways you could get close to that sound. I hadn't really thought of it as a guitar solo before. It's kinda interesting. I'd like to see someone do that.

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A lot of people have replicated it as Guitar composition. There was a video a while ago interviewing some session guitarist who was playing with Daft Punk - so they certainly do or have used guitars at some point during their sets. There are plenty of videos on YouTube with people playing Aerodynamic and Digital Love - which are the two tracks with the most guitar-like effects in them, so providing there's a way of creating an effect that can be processed on a guitar, I think a fairly accurate sound could be made.

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I'm not going to say I'm right and everyone else is wrong here because when it comes down to it, with Daft Punk, there's no telling what they did. It's kinda like Nine Inch Nails...they play a studio...so there's a lot of possibilities.

I do agree that it sounds like a keyboard solo that's meant to sound like a guitar solo. I don't have any evidence to back that up, except that I don't think I've heard of Daft Punk ever using guitars more than in samples.

As for the sound itself, I don't think it's a ringmod kind of sound. To me it sounds like a bitcrusher type of effect as the main sound. The wah kind of sound on top of that sounds almost like a talkbox, but a lot of their songs have that vocal-ish sounding wah effect somewhere in them. Maybe some kind of odd vocoder treatment.

There's probably a bunch of ways you could get close to that sound. I hadn't really thought of it as a guitar solo before. It's kinda interesting. I'd like to see someone do that.

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electro harmonix have some weird effects too, so you might check them out, but i dont know how tu emulate this sound (wich is pretty cool btw laugh.gif )

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We do covers from time to time of Aerodynamic and Digital Love but I'm afraid we do it nothing like Daft Punk. Aerodynamic is a Synth but you're right you can get a similar sound from a very driven guitar with some other effects thrown in. Just play around with effects. We do metal versions of those two songs.

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