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Pedja Simovic
post Apr 2 2009, 11:59 AM
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QUOTE (Sergio Dorado @ Apr 2 2009, 12:57 PM) *
Great work Pedja¡ Thanks for the comments


Thank you Sergio
I enjoy your creativity and solos, please come back in future collaborations. I am planing to do more advanced concepts later on which I am sure you will enjoy a lot smile.gif


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post Apr 2 2009, 12:02 PM
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Lucky you Pedja you can sleep now smile.gif I am still doing my collab.


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post Apr 2 2009, 12:03 PM
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Thank you Pedja! .. i learned again a really helpful tool in this collab, which i certainly will use a lot in the future.
You got me with the extra assignment .. that will not be easy. I will stick to the beat from now on laugh.gif

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post Apr 2 2009, 12:10 PM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Apr 2 2009, 01:02 PM) *
Lucky you Pedja you can sleep now smile.gif I am still doing my collab.


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Actually I will go to market buy some bread and eat, have somebody coming to my place at 3 pm - have to stay awake until then smile.gif

How far into mix and comments are you Emir ?

QUOTE (wrk @ Apr 2 2009, 01:03 PM) *
Thank you Pedja! .. i learned again a really helpful tool in this collab, which i certainly will use it a lot in the future.
You got me with the extra assignment .. that will not be easy. I will stick to the beat from now on laugh.gif


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So you are saying I finally got you Andy ? smile.gif
I am really interested to see and hear how your Guitar Pro version will turn out to be.

You are absolutely right about this collab being helpful. I will come back to it in future, we are not just going to do one of these you know- there is lots of useful harmonies that we need to cover wink.gif


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post Apr 2 2009, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Apr 2 2009, 12:10 PM) *
How far into mix and comments are you Emir ?


Have the mix pretty much done and half of the comments. My battery charger for the camera died and I have to do text comments for this one. Many problems these days for me. I might finish by tonight


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post Apr 2 2009, 12:19 PM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Apr 2 2009, 01:17 PM) *
Have the mix pretty much done and half of the comments. My battery charger for the camera died and I have to do text comments for this one. Many problems these days for me. I might finish by tonight


Thats great man, doesn't sound that bad !
I was thinking to record something today for it later tonight maybe. You don't have to include it in final mix tough smile.gif


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post Apr 2 2009, 12:39 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Apr 2 2009, 12:59 PM) *
Thank you Sergio
I enjoy your creativity and solos, please come back in future collaborations. I am planing to do more advanced concepts later on which I am sure you will enjoy a lot smile.gif


For me, that I grew up with blues, rock and heavy, would be interesting typical concepts of jazz- fusion, like substitutions, altered scales, phrasing, etc, etc


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post Apr 2 2009, 12:49 PM
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QUOTE (Sergio Dorado @ Apr 2 2009, 01:39 PM) *
For me, that I grew up with blues, rock and heavy, would be interesting typical concepts of jazz- fusion, like substitutions, altered scales, phrasing, etc, etc


I am with you Sergio but that will not happen soon unfortunately.
I will do collabs on substitutions and other advanced approaches, right now we are focusing on more basic things that are foundation to build into all the advance concepts !


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post Apr 2 2009, 01:20 PM
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Thank You for your comment Pedja! It was my first collaboration, so I didn't know what to expect from myself, I am not 100% happy with my take, but the whole outcome is better than I would expect. Now I am looking forward to joining other collaborations, trying to come up with something on Your own, and apply what have You learned is hard, but definitely worth it:)


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post Apr 2 2009, 03:28 PM
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Great collab Pedja and great playing from the entrants.

Wish I'd signed up to this one prob would have learned something from this....maybe the next one


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post Apr 2 2009, 03:45 PM
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Thanks for the comments and collab Pedja. I'm looking forward to your next collab....the classroom style if very useful!! The advanced concepts will be very cool I think. smile.gif
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Non Chord tones?? I'm sure I used the charts wink.gif That's why I transcribed the whole lead, or better composed it wink.gif The only thing that's not right was the timing, I have a hard time with that, but I have the tab for you.... NOOOO..... I threw it away xD NOO.... Sorry.... Stupid dry.gif

I'm very sorry about that, but I'm sure I used the chord charts!! Can you give a more specific time of where you thought I was wrong? I'll tab it out.


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post Apr 2 2009, 07:03 PM
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I am surprised and happy to get such a good review. I had the take all worked out ahead of time, but I struggled with playing it up to speed. Thanks for not mentioning the couple of notes I hit weakly. Your suggested approach of using voice leading gave me the idea I needed for this. It's very nice to hear how many nice musical ideas the group came up with for this using a strictly limited palette of notes.

But now you're going to expect me to do something good every time! biggrin.gif


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post Apr 2 2009, 07:16 PM
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Tolek you passed this class smile.gif If I had to give you a grade it would be a B- or C probably. Your solo had a lot of non chord tones which were not allowed(when I say a lot a mean more than one or two notes!). I know you could have done simpler solo and stick to actual chord tones but you choose to do differently.
I am only making hard comments for you because you are mentor and need to set example to all your students here at GMC. Thats why I am letting you pass this collaboration, but I am giving you assignment to submit me your solo in Guitar Pro file.
Best thing you can do is record a new proper take without non chord tones and anticipations and upload it at this thread any time.
I know you are very talented determined and hard working but I promised you I will give critique when you deserve it - now is that time wink.gif
Thank you for your take Tolek and I look forward getting extra assignment from you smile.gif


As you know, I´m fully aware that I didn´t do my homework correctly and I have to accept the comments (which I do everytime of course! laugh.gif). You made a good decision to let me redo my take in GP. I´d like to do a new one, but now I´m at my father´s and I can´t use my POD here, unfortunately. sad.gif
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post Apr 2 2009, 09:27 PM
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QUOTE (Marek Rojewski @ Apr 2 2009, 02:20 PM) *
Thank You for your comment Pedja! It was my first collaboration, so I didn't know what to expect from myself, I am not 100% happy with my take, but the whole outcome is better than I would expect. Now I am looking forward to joining other collaborations, trying to come up with something on Your own, and apply what have You learned is hard, but definitely worth it:)


You welcome Marek. I didn't know this was your 1st collaboration ? Thats great man ! I definitely look forward having you in next one.

QUOTE (Crazyfret @ Apr 2 2009, 04:28 PM) *
Great collab Pedja and great playing from the entrants.

Wish I'd signed up to this one prob would have learned something from this....maybe the next one


Yes, really good collaboration. We will come back to arpeggios after we cover couple more approaches. Stop by over weekend I will upload new collab then wink.gif

QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 2 2009, 04:45 PM) *
Thanks for the comments and collab Pedja. I'm looking forward to your next collab....the classroom style if very useful!! The advanced concepts will be very cool I think. smile.gif


After we get to advance concepts I am afraid all you guys will leave families and just play guitar laugh.gif
It should be lots of fun - next collab I am positive you will really like.

QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Apr 2 2009, 04:57 PM) *
Non Chord tones?? I'm sure I used the charts wink.gif That's why I transcribed the whole lead, or better composed it wink.gif The only thing that's not right was the timing, I have a hard time with that, but I have the tab for you.... NOOOO..... I threw it away xD NOO.... Sorry.... Stupid dry.gif

I'm very sorry about that, but I'm sure I used the chord charts!! Can you give a more specific time of where you thought I was wrong? I'll tab it out.


Sure thing Kaz.

E min 7 A min7 D min 7 G7.
Over A min 7 you play double stops (BE and F#cool.gif - non chord tones F# and B here.
Over D min 7 you use non chord tone B.
Over G7 you use C maj7 arpeggio so non chord tones are C and E.

Tab it out please it will be great exercise to analyze and see for yourself.

Thanks Kaz smile.gif

QUOTE (jdriver @ Apr 2 2009, 08:03 PM) *
I am surprised and happy to get such a good review. I had the take all worked out ahead of time, but I struggled with playing it up to speed. Thanks for not mentioning the couple of notes I hit weakly. Your suggested approach of using voice leading gave me the idea I needed for this. It's very nice to hear how many nice musical ideas the group came up with for this using a strictly limited palette of notes.

But now you're going to expect me to do something good every time! biggrin.gif


Jeff you did the right thing by following voice leading rules. The whole structure and melodic approach to your solo was very professional. I am glad you joined and submitted your take, definitely hope to see you in next one.

And yes I will expect good things from you every time biggrin.gif



QUOTE (Tolek @ Apr 2 2009, 08:16 PM) *
As you know, I´m fully aware that I didn´t do my homework correctly and I have to accept the comments (which I do everytime of course! laugh.gif). You made a good decision to let me redo my take in GP. I´d like to do a new one, but now I´m at my father´s and I can´t use my POD here, unfortunately. sad.gif
I´m very happy that you care so much about me and help me to develop and prepare me for university, sort of. Thanks so much!

In general...... Marriage! laugh.gif


No rush Tolek, I am here... Record new take whenever you can just get to it so I can correct your grade biggrin.gif

You know I love to help you out but for marriage you have to look elsewhere laugh.gif


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post Apr 2 2009, 10:14 PM
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thanks pedja!

i always have fun learning from your collabs!

as for GP, i was using a pirated version, and they caught me


long story short, i need to buy a copy lkol


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post Apr 2 2009, 11:09 PM
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QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Apr 2 2009, 11:14 PM) *
thanks pedja!

i always have fun learning from your collabs!

as for GP, i was using a pirated version, and they caught me


long story short, i need to buy a copy lkol


Great to hear that Marc smile.gif

Sorry about your GP problem - its good thing you just had to buy it at the end laugh.gif


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Thanks Pedja for your comments smile.gif

I actually have tabbed it out in GuitarPro, so we can start the analysis once I get back from Philly smile.gif


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Pedja....why do you want me to tab my take out in Guitar pro? Shouldn't be too hard....just wondering. smile.gif
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post Apr 3 2009, 03:55 AM
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QUOTE (Velvet Roger @ Apr 3 2009, 03:30 AM) *
Thanks Pedja for your comments smile.gif

I actually have tabbed it out in GuitarPro, so we can start the analysis once I get back from Philly smile.gif


You welcome roger !
I look forward to it, in the meanwhile enjoy Philly smile.gif

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Pedja....why do you want me to tab my take out in Guitar pro? Shouldn't be too hard....just wondering. smile.gif


For couple of reasons Monte. One - it will help you learn more about Guitar Pro ; two - it you will learn more about your take and three - you can post it in your MTP board for the other guys and ask them to learn it (For example). Record video with it to make it even more easier for them.

Is that good enough or ?

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