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post Apr 3 2009, 11:19 PM
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Okey guys and girls a silly question, but pleze take it seriously hehe tongue.gif

Lets "PRETEND" i wanna be the best gutiarist possible ever walked on earth..hehe: D

Whats the best way to practise, i dont mean a sceduale like pratice scales and so..

1. But i mean hours playing guitar ...Whats makes the best proggress..

playing 5h,6h,10h,16hours...?

2. Say i practise 16 hours a day, is this good for me, or does my proggress go slower ?
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post Apr 3 2009, 11:22 PM
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It dosent matter how long you practise....

What matters is what you practise and how you practise it in the time you have.....

1 hour of serieus and concentrated practising is better then 5 hours of goofing around.....

Its good if you can make a practise schedual and work on the things you want to improve on......

Take it slow and dont rush it.... You dont become a guitar god over night


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post Apr 3 2009, 11:47 PM
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It is good to practice and play as much as you can, and I think learning theory would help a great deal in understanding what are you practicing and why. Theory can also help you to determine what are you going to practice. I think using some kind of a exercise system can help, and these systems are greatly based on your current playing level. In general my advice is to keep it slow at first and analyze what you need to work on. Don't make heavy lesson plans that will take you months to finish, just take one small step at a time to remain inspired and focused on your goals.
We all have different goals, and the important part of your guitar playing journey is to find out what is your goal. Let's presume that you want to be one of the greatest guitar players in the world. I think there is nothing wrong with that - in fact if that is your attitude, then by all means follow it, it's a great one!
Along side being one of the guitar gods, you should see what kind of music do you like, what kind of tone/sound you're after, and where do you see your music relative to other people and the rest of the world. All the guitar gods being awesome players, were awesome composers as well, or been in a band with some greatest hits that lots of people know. So I think starting to compose from early years of development, and really focusing on the techniques that you know you are not so good with are the one of the main challenges.
I think being one of the greats is many peoples goal, but not all make it cause the road to there is very very hard. It takes a lot of persistence, faith and hard work, and even some degree of luck to manage to become major artist. But I think anyone can do it if he puts his mind into it, and we can all become only better and better players if we practice hard and long enough.
Now bare in mind that on that level, guitar and music will definitely require you to make some priorities in your life, but hey, if you love music and love to be one of the greats, I say go for it, and follow your dream.
When starting to play the guitar, people often underrate the importance of music theory. Every musician should be aware of at least basic music theory in order to reach the next milestone, and become semi-pro, or pro artist. This is done over time, but I would say a really persistent musician can cover lot of territory when practicing 3-4 hours every day for 5 years. The most important thing is to never stop playing, and always find some time to play/practice the guitar. Even if you don't practice one or two days (sometimes you have to take a break) try listening to music, learning theory a bit, or just compose simple stuff so you are constantly in touch with the music.
I think many players loose contact with music after a while and start chasing technique instead. This is good, but after a while it becomes a workout with no real love, and it can cause people to "overburn" and loose interest in playing. I suggest that you always keep a strong connection between you and music you like/create. This will ensure that when you take your instrument you will remain inspired and look at the technique only as a tool to produce better music for world around you - not looking at the technique as a goal by itself.

If you need any help in determining what you need to practice, let us know, we will try to help as much as we can. If you need a lesson plan, or feel that you have issues with your current playing level (whatever that may be), we can discuss it and see what we can do to help.




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post Apr 4 2009, 03:56 AM
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The numbers that researchers have recently settled on is 10,000 hours or approximately 10 years, with 4 hours a day being about as much practice as can be good for you without injury. That won't get you to "best there ever was," but it will get you to master or virtuoso level.

For more information, Google: master 10000 hours


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post Apr 4 2009, 09:35 AM
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Also, distributed practice is better than massed practice. This works the same for anything you're trying to learn, but especially implicit memory skills (frequently called 'muscle memory' here on GMC) like guitar playing. What this means is that, say you have 2 hours per day to learn. It's better to practice those hours spread out from each other (4x a half an hour or 2x an hour, divided over a day) rather than in one run (one big two hour practice).
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post Apr 4 2009, 10:05 AM
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That is really helpful article http://ezinearticles.com/?How-You-Can-Prac...&id=1828706 !
You can add also those techniques that you need to practice for your style in that way smile.gif
I would like to know how is possible to practice 16 hours a day (ok Petrucci can do it for 63 hours a day, but he learned time warp laugh.gif laugh.gif ) biggrin.gif that means you sleep like 5-6 hours, no fresh air, no girls, no body\mind training, no fun time - you become ill in no time with that regime smile.gif
But glad you decided very serious practice! smile.gif

For me best time is around 5-6 hours, 8-9 hours was worse a lot.

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post Apr 4 2009, 10:10 AM
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Great post Ivan! I think you captured the essence of practice perfectly!
I'm kind of on the same road, I need a practice regime:DNow, I just play songs and jam about 2 hours a day:P


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post Apr 4 2009, 10:44 AM
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Practice much, practice the right things and have fun smile.gif
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post Apr 4 2009, 11:04 AM
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there is no best biggrin.gif as you probably know there are lots of different techniques to master, and take them to a unseen level. So the best you can do is to work hard and be the best you can. Probably biggrin.gif


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post Apr 4 2009, 11:04 AM
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azzam!! replys guys,...and especially you Ivan...It will be great if you could like to make an sceduele, because i feel like im just jamming you know ?

1.Alex lion, in fact della vega practise 16 hours a day, how is taht possible, `?
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post Apr 4 2009, 11:39 AM
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Sure mate, whatever you need, I'm here to help if I can.
Now I've made a small lesson plan here, so you can check it out. It goes from total beginner level, up to modes concept, and I think going through all those lessons will definitely increase your playing level. Check it out. If you think you need something a bit different PM me, and I will make you a small lesson plan to follow.


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post Apr 4 2009, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE (Ramblingman @ Apr 4 2009, 01:04 PM) *
azzam!! replys guys,...and especially you Ivan...It will be great if you could like to make an sceduele, because i feel like im just jamming you know ?

1.Alex lion, in fact della vega practise 16 hours a day, how is taht possible, `?

Well that`s why he isn`t great songwriter biggrin.gif he train only technique i guess. And how do you know, if you find it on web it can be lies, even if he personally told you about that, that it`s not garanteed truth laugh.gif
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post Apr 5 2009, 08:06 PM
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In addition to everyone elses input, I would add that if you really wish to become an awsome guitarist dont worry about "How many hours" you practice smile.gif

What one should focus on is how they practice, and what they practice. Structure is the way to your goals smile.gif


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post Apr 5 2009, 08:56 PM
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QUOTE (mattacuk @ Apr 5 2009, 08:06 PM) *
In addition to everyone elses input, I would add that if you really wish to become an awsome guitarist dont worry about "How many hours" you practice smile.gif

What one should focus on is how they practice, and what they practice. Structure is the way to your goals smile.gif

So true.....
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post Apr 6 2009, 02:13 AM
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I found your question very funny to be honest because tell me in your own words what determines or makes anybody to be the best guitarist ?
I am sure that even here at GMC a lot of people would have their different favorite or best guitar player picked. Is that determined by some official award ? If so then I am not aware of such smile.gif

Is your goal to be fastest guitar player in the world ? If so you can find clips on youtube every year of random people attempting to brake world record in fastest playing. If that is your goal then all you have to do is play every day one single thing and build your speed with metronome, and do it like a machine smile.gif
If your goal is to become best guitarist YOU can be, then a lot of things will determine and influence that.

What kind of person you are, hours you put in, determination, hard work, talent, consistency, competing spirit etc


If I had to give you the best advice I can it would be following...

In order to get something BIG in life you have to make sacrifice in life one way of the other. For us guitar players in some periods in our life that means practicing 10 hours a day every day for couple of years for example. In that period you won't have time for girlfriends (girls require time and attention, and I believe there is no girl on this world that will accept you spending 10 hours with guitar and 1-2 hours with her smile.gif, you can occasionally go out and your life is pretty much music music music with some sleeping (4 to 7 hours of sleep).

To all this you need to know what you are practicing in terms of songs, techniques, songwriting, recording, arranging , theory and harmony, improvisation etc. If you create a practice plan, with this kind of dedication there is absolute gurante that you will set and reach very high standards for yourself.


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post Apr 6 2009, 07:53 AM
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Work hard, no matter what.
But it's also very important to really enjoy while you work,
working under pressure to get some "best" results
probably won't give you much.
Music is an art and there must be a passion,
even when you practice technique only.
I've never had any practice regime in my life
but many guys do have it and there is nothing wrong with that,
it's just that looking at the watch all the time
maybe isn't best solution,
relax, take your guitar and explore it. smile.gif


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I'd like to add than even a practice routine which "only" invloves 2 hours per day can be extremely effective if you limit yourself to a restricted amount topics (maybe you don't need to master all the techniques in the world).

If you give yourself two hours per day for 4 years to learn 1 shred technique, basic scales, basic rhythm guitar + jam a lot to songs - then that could be enough if you follow superize's advice.

It all goes down down to how well you analyze your own progress/needs/difficulties - not the amount of hours.


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post Apr 11 2009, 12:00 AM
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Kris, I sincerely agree. It simply comes down to the quailty, and not the quanity. If you ask someone how long they have been playing, they may say..ummm 10 years. Now with 10 years of playing, you would think they would be very,very good. You listen to them play and...YUCK! You are hearing some of the worst sounds to ever be squeezed out of a piece of wood and six strings. biggrin.gif
Now you meet a guy who has "only" played for 6 months. This person plays for you, and WOW! The next guitar God! How has he/she done it? They have sincerely played,and put fourth an effort, everyday for the past six months. Owning an instrument for 10 years, and it sits in the corner collecting dust for 9 of those years, does NOT mean you have been playing for 10 years. I run into this all the time. It is simply the amount of time you truly spend with the guitar, not the years you have wanted to.

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post Apr 11 2009, 09:55 AM
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I think you need to understand what are you playing and why is it so
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2 Hours, 4 hours, 8 Hours, 16 Hours, damn don't you guys have a job / life. I'm happy if I manage 2 hours a day and may be 6 hours on a weekend (when my girlfriend isn't around). How the hell do you guys get so much time to practice?

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