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post Apr 6 2009, 06:48 PM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Apr 6 2009, 07:12 PM) *
Look at his Sweeping Arpeggios lesson for sure, he goes all over the neck, all kinds of forms, and is it a nice composition, well played. And look at his picking hand, the free fingers, you can just about see them floating. I think that is something to strive for, that kind of looseness. I really think Ian is quite good. Some guys just look at how fast a guy is, and judge them by that. I don't. Ian is fast enough, but there is a lot more to playing than just how fast or technical you can be.


Hmmm... do u have a link to the lesson at all?


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post Apr 6 2009, 07:00 PM
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QUOTE (CathShadow @ Apr 6 2009, 12:48 PM) *
Hmmm... do u have a link to the lesson at all?


here is the one I was referring to. Although he has other great lessons. And you can hear, he has great rhythm and accenting in all his play.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...king-arpeggios/

I just learned this recently myself, just slowly, and will patiently pick up speed. I really think you have to be patient with sweeps, as if you don't strive for perfect timing (meaning patiently working at that), you may get fast, but the quality of your play will be low. I hear a lot of guys sweep fast, but not that many that I consider to have great sweeps.

Notice how his fingers on both hands just flow.

No matter what style you want to play, metal or whatever, this type of thing will really improve it, as it will develop finger dexterity.
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post Apr 6 2009, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Apr 6 2009, 08:00 PM) *
here is the one I was referring to. Although he has other great lessons. And you can hear, he has great rhythm and accenting in all his play.

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...king-arpeggios/

I just learned this recently myself, just slowly, and will patiently pick up speed. I really think you have to be patient with sweeps, as if you don't strive for perfect timing (meaning patiently working at that), you may get fast, but the quality of your play will be low. I hear a lot of guys sweep fast, but not that many that I consider to have great sweeps.

Notice how his fingers on both hands just flow.

No matter what style you want to play, metal or whatever, this type of thing will really improve it, as it will develop finger dexterity.


Awesome... thanks so much biggrin.gif


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post Apr 6 2009, 08:13 PM
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post Apr 6 2009, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Apr 6 2009, 09:13 PM) *
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hahahaha I can't wait to get home to put them on wink.gif


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post Apr 6 2009, 08:25 PM
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QUOTE (CathShadow @ Apr 6 2009, 02:17 PM) *
hahahaha I can't wait to get home to put them on wink.gif


keep in mind that some well known guitarists, rarely change strings, in fact avoid it as much as possible, for tonal reasons. you can decide for yourself.

edit: here is a link that explains the equal temperament scale, which has been the scale of choice now for centuries in western music, when using instruments with set intervals (unlike strings, where the musician can place his fingers anywhere). However even when playing instruments with flexibility in this regard, when they play with those that don't have this such as most brass, piano, and of course guitar, they have to conform to it. Although good piano tuners actually make some adjustments to make the more used keys more sweet sounding. I believe Vai plays guitars with frets shifted for the same reason. This is getting complicated, I will stop. I hear applause, thanking me for doing that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament

It explains why it is used, and there is a chart in the middle of the page that shows how much each interval is off it's theoretical level. You can see that major and minor thirds and sixths, that is, 3, 4, 6, and 8 fret intervals are the main offenders. 2nds and 7ths are also far off the theoretical mark, however those intervals are dissonant anyway, even when true intervals. If the dissonance that you were noticing was of thirds or sixths, that would support the premise that this is the source of your issue, meaning you really had no issue at all, just the nature of the beast.

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QUOTE (fkalich @ Apr 6 2009, 09:25 PM) *
keep in mind that some well known guitarists, rarely change strings, in fact avoid it as much as possible, for tonal reasons. you can decide for yourself.

edit: here is a link that explains the equal temperament scale, which has been the scale of choice now for centuries in western music, when using instruments with set intervals (unlike strings, where the musician can place his fingers anywhere). However even when playing instruments with flexibility in this regard, when they play with those that don't have this such as most brass, piano, and of course guitar, they have to conform to it. Although good piano tuners actually make some adjustments to make the more used keys more sweet sounding. I believe Vai plays guitars with frets shifted for the same reason. This is getting complicated, I will stop. I hear applause, thanking me for doing that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal_temperament

It explains why it is used, and there is a chart in the middle of the page that shows how much each interval is off it's theoretical level. You can see that major and minor thirds and sixths, that is, 3, 4, 6, and 8 fret intervals are the main offenders. 2nds and 7ths are also far off the theoretical mark, however those intervals are dissonant anyway, even when true intervals. If the dissonance that you were noticing was of thirds or sixths, that would support the premise that this is the source of your issue, meaning you really had no issue at all, just the nature of the beast.


Cool... thanks for all the help an resources biggrin.gif

Turns out it was in fact the strings: 1 in particular : "B"...
was giving that flat sound... I put the strings I got for my birthday on... and after stabbing my fingers numerous times, the guitar sounds great again! biggrin.gif

It even fixed some of the vibration problems I was having....

Thanks for all the help and resources though... I'll be reading them and going through the lessons...

Thanks to everyone for their input biggrin.gif

Pierre


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post Apr 7 2009, 02:18 PM
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