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post Apr 12 2009, 09:17 PM
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It's not weird... it just sounds... cheap xD I know it's bs but it's just preference.


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post Apr 12 2009, 09:56 PM
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QUOTE (Jesse @ Apr 12 2009, 10:17 PM) *
It's not weird... it just sounds... cheap xD I know it's bs but it's just preference.

Uhm, Korean guitars are the cheap ones. The Japanese are the more expensive ones. I think you are confusing something.

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post Apr 12 2009, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (Jesse @ Apr 12 2009, 10:17 PM) *
It's not weird... it just sounds... cheap xD I know it's bs but it's just preference.


So far I've heard nothing but insanely good things about Japanese work ethics and craftsmanship, even when making guitars.

Besides - Ibanez is a Japanese company. It sounds a bit like wanting a Fender but absolutely no Fender USA. tongue.gif

Sorry to butt in (I'm interested in the JS, too!), I was just a bit interested in that remark.
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post Apr 12 2009, 10:05 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 12 2009, 07:52 PM) *
Do you have the ZR Jonas? The ZR takes like 5 minutes to set up....very simple. smile.gif
I've got an Ibanez S470 with an ZR Trem in there and it took me about an hour to get it properly set up the last time I did it. Just changing strings is ok, but once the intonation is messed up its painful to readjust everything.

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post Apr 12 2009, 10:09 PM
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Pavlov, als je geen Fender USA wilt is er echt iets mis met je:D Wie dat dan ook zegt haha. Maar is toch personal preference.


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post Apr 12 2009, 10:13 PM
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QUOTE (Jesse @ Apr 12 2009, 05:46 PM) *
lool, dont take it as racist. But I don't like a guitar from Japan:P

I got fender frontman 65 watt. Ill just get a satchurator too:D


All the high end Ibanez guitars are made in Japan (Team J. Craft), even Steve Vai´s JEM. The Korean factory makes the cheap stuff. I don´t think there are any USA made Ibanez guitars. Also in the 80´s Fender moved their USA factory to Japan, but moved back to USA in early 90´s. So guitars from Japan are top quality. smile.gif



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post Apr 12 2009, 10:14 PM
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One more Ibanez question. I think I really would like the style body Satch has. You know, no edges, it's all curved and smooth. Do only the JS signatures have these body styles, or are there cheaper versions with that body. I'm planning on putting in new pickups anyway. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH.................................


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post Apr 13 2009, 12:49 AM
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QUOTE (Jesse @ Apr 12 2009, 08:46 AM) *
lool, dont take it as racist. But I don't like a guitar from Japan:P

I got fender frontman 65 watt. Ill just get a satchurator too:D




you are kidding right.



japan = higher quality....


if i were you, for the price, id get a used ibanez radius

its the same thing as a JS but BETTER

lo pro edge trem (the best trem ever made IMO)
the body is like the JS (the JS is not an S, its a Radius)
the neck is the wizard 1, the thinnest and fastest playing neck ibanez has ever released!


thats what id do, but for some reason, people on this forum are a afraid of buying used guitars


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post Apr 13 2009, 02:43 AM
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I agree with Marc, used is the way to go. As long as you have the cash in hand of course, but then again I would never finance anything except a house and a car.

I don't know how the economy is in Europe right now, but here it sucks. Use that to your advantage, desperate sellers will sell for desperate prices.


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post Apr 13 2009, 03:05 AM
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Just so you know i have played 3 japanese guitars (fender) and they were hands down crafted better than every AMERICAN guitar ive played smile.gif. maybe they were just like the holy grails of japanese guitars


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post Apr 13 2009, 10:08 AM
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Maybe you just have'nt played a good USA One. ANd NO I AM NOT BUYING A USED GUITAR,
NEVER.

Back on topic:P Isn't there another way to get an ibanez with the satriani style smooth body? Or do I have to buy the cheaper JS signature and put the PAF Joe and DiMarzio FRED In them, or is that guitars bridge worthless.... ?

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post Apr 13 2009, 10:46 AM
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S series looks sexy tongue.gif Andy Veil has a Sv prestige, it just looks godlike tongue.gif If you get one, I might come over to play it!!




QUOTE (Jesse @ Apr 13 2009, 11:08 AM) *
Maybe you just have'nt played a good USA One. ANd NO I AM NOT BUYING A USED GUITAR,
NEVER.

Back on topic:P Isn't there another way to get an ibanez with the satriani style smooth body? Or do I have to buy the cheaper JS signature and put the PAF Joe and DiMarzio FRED In them, or is that guitars bridge worthless.... ?

I ALWAYS PLAY second hand guitars, they rock tongue.gif Look at it this way: you can either pay the same as for a new guitar, but get twice the quality, or you can pay half for the same guitar!! The only difference is that it might have a scratch or two, but who cares? If you try them out, and they seem to play just fine, than you just saved a lot of money to buy, say, a new amp, or a pickup upgrade!


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post Apr 13 2009, 10:58 AM
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You really don't get it do you? I don't want to play on something where someone else put their soul into already. I wanta guitar, that is only mine.

After seeing that body, hmmmmmm I really want the smooth satch style body.

QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Apr 13 2009, 11:46 AM) *
S series looks sexy tongue.gif Andy Veil has a Sv prestige, it just looks godlike tongue.gif If you get one, I might come over to play it!!





I ALWAYS PLAY second hand guitars, they rock tongue.gif Look at it this way: you can either pay the same as for a new guitar, but get twice the quality, or you can pay half for the same guitar!! The only difference is that it might have a scratch or two, but who cares? If you try them out, and they seem to play just fine, than you just saved a lot of money to buy, say, a new amp, or a pickup upgrade!


That is the point, you look at guitars different than I do.


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post Apr 13 2009, 02:34 PM
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bump. Anyone know if it is a good idea, to buy the cheaper satriani signature, put paf pro and fred in em and someday a new bridge?


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post Apr 13 2009, 04:07 PM
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QUOTE (Jesse @ Apr 13 2009, 03:34 PM) *
bump. Anyone know if it is a good idea, to buy the cheaper satriani signature, put paf pro and fred in em and someday a new bridge?


The edge pro which is in the more expensive JS models and Jem is actually not that expensive if you know where to find them, so for an estimated 400 euros extra on top of the price of the JS 100 you are already in the prestige pricerange...

It's your choice but for that money i would buy an RG 2550Z prestige and that satchurtor or whatever it's called.



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post Apr 13 2009, 04:17 PM
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Yeah. I really dislike that one's body:D. Can I get your msn? Maybe we can chat a little on there, its faster!


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post Apr 13 2009, 08:34 PM
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well lets ask you this....why do you want the JS model in the first place?


have you tried the guitar out before?


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i stopped using msn about 3 years ago smile.gif and i don't use any other chat programs because i have no time for it wink.gif

The RG has a big body but that never bothered me maybe you should look at Schecter C-1 guitars they look awesome and some of them have a tremelo system but the original floyd roses i think the C-1 Hellraiser looks damn awesome.

QUOTE (Gilmore @ Apr 12 2009, 11:13 PM) *
All the high end Ibanez guitars are made in Japan (Team J. Craft), even Steve Vai´s JEM. The Korean factory makes the cheap stuff. I don´t think there are any USA made Ibanez guitars. Also in the 80´s Fender moved their USA factory to Japan, but moved back to USA in early 90´s. So guitars from Japan are top quality. smile.gif


Actually there are USA made Ibanez guitars the Ibanez custom shop is located in the USA but unlike Fender you can't just go over there say what you want and have it made they only make guitars for Ibanez endorsers.


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actually, there are no such thing as USA made ibanez...the LA factory hasnt been producing guitars for a long time. Even so, they were japanese made, and assembled in the USA, just like fender guitars.

Ibanez had the name "Ibanez USA" because in the 70's, japanese guitars had a bad rep, so ibanez found a representative in the US in Bensalem, PA (which is why older ibanez guitars have a neck plate with Bensalem on them) and imported them from japan, calling themselves ibanez USA.

even for endorsers its almost impossible to get a true custom...most endorsees just get discounts on ibanez products...and at most, ibanez guitars with small customizations to them

korean quality is OK, not on par with MIJ, but OK

indo and chinese = yucky, although once in a while you will find a nice one


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post Apr 13 2009, 09:19 PM
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QUOTE (Jesse @ Apr 13 2009, 03:34 PM) *
bump. Anyone know if it is a good idea, to buy the cheaper satriani signature, put paf pro and fred in em and someday a new bridge?
That sound's like a bad idea. It's going to cost you about 1100€. Given that price range and the fact that you want a tremolo the Ibanez prestige Guitars are probably your best bet. If you don't like the RGs there are also S Prestige models, they are a bit more expensive though.

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