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post Apr 13 2009, 12:32 PM
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I would rather blow away armed opponents who are skilled with a gamepad than pretend to be a real musician with a push button guitar.


Thats the thing. I'm coming from the standpoint of kids. And I dont want my kids pretending to be blowing people away. I'd rather they pretend to be rock guitarists.

When I was younger it was tennis rackets. We'd hold tennis rackets like guitars. Or just air guitar to our favorite guitar gods.

Now there is something a bit more interactive for those whom are interested.

Thats great I think. All the air guitaring in the world didnt make me want to not pursue real guitar. Maybe if I had a chance to play a game like that back in 1985 I'd have done well at it, gained confidence, and tried real guitar sooner?!?!?!?

In my opinion anything that takes focus away from games involving killing.

There is enough killers in the world. We needn't be training more.

But introducing kids to music? Hell yeah!!! Maybe it'll get the schools to see that cutting all the music programs is a bad idea. THERE IS INTEREST!!!!!!!


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post Apr 13 2009, 01:04 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Apr 13 2009, 01:32 PM) *
Thats the thing. I'm coming from the standpoint of kids. And I dont want my kids pretending to be blowing people away. I'd rather they pretend to be rock guitarists.

When I was younger it was tennis rackets. We'd hold tennis rackets like guitars. Or just air guitar to our favorite guitar gods.

Now there is something a bit more interactive for those whom are interested.

Thats great I think. All the air guitaring in the world didnt make me want to not pursue real guitar. Maybe if I had a chance to play a game like that back in 1985 I'd have done well at it, gained confidence, and tried real guitar sooner?!?!?!?

In my opinion anything that takes focus away from games involving killing.

There is enough killers in the world. We needn't be training more.

But introducing kids to music? Hell yeah!!! Maybe it'll get the schools to see that cutting all the music programs is a bad idea. THERE IS INTEREST!!!!!!!

I agree. Compared to other violent games that we are bombarded with GH is a positive thing, similar to Super Mario for example. I don't wanna disrespect the people who play violent games - I played a lot of them myself, but I think GH is definitely something that has more meaning to me then those games.
I don't see how GH is comparable to real guitar in any way tho..











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post Apr 13 2009, 01:11 PM
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I wonder why people who play sports don't bad mouth the people who play John Madden football or Tiger Woods golf?

That's nothing like golf!!!!!! What a waste! Pick up some real clubs poser!!!!



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post Apr 13 2009, 03:04 PM
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It´s a funny game, but I hate the hype about it. If you concern that it is so much easier. Anyway let´s play the real one with the G-string biggrin.gif
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post Apr 13 2009, 07:14 PM
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LOL at the guitar hero for mac:D


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post Apr 13 2009, 09:49 PM
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QUOTE (jer @ Apr 13 2009, 08:11 AM) *
I wonder why people who play sports don't bad mouth the people who play John Madden football or Tiger Woods golf?

That's nothing like golf!!!!!! What a waste! Pick up some real clubs poser!!!!


That is a good analogy!


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post Apr 13 2009, 09:53 PM
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Thanks.

Its a very overlooked analogy in my opinion.

For some reason it seems a good sized chunk of guitar players think that the guitar hero gamers are under the impression that they are gaining real guitar skills.

I have yet to meet any that think that. Its a game. They know its a game. Let them have their fun.

And as games go, you could waste your time on a lot worse.



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post Apr 13 2009, 10:05 PM
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agreed, it's better to play guitar hero than WOW xD
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post Apr 13 2009, 10:10 PM
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post Apr 13 2009, 11:27 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Apr 13 2009, 07:04 AM) *
I agree. Compared to other violent games that we are bombarded with GH is a positive thing, similar to Super Mario for example. I don't wanna disrespect the people who play violent games - I played a lot of them myself, but I think GH is


Well, you can't say something is good because you find something even worse. People don't read anymore, not the classics, do stuff like this instead. It just is real bad. Just because we have more advanced technology today does not make your average person more intelligent than decades past, all statistics and evidence demonstrate it has been the opposite.

And physically also. I know for adults to stay in shape takes efforts, but look at kids today. I live on a college campus and have seen the weight gains over the years as they arrive. Years ago about half the young ladies were knock outs on campus. Now all you think is "why would anyone with a belly like that want to show it off". I think the average kid at 18 weighs 20-25 lbs more than years ago, and it is the same in Europe. Not active, not socializing, playing sports with people. I also think more of them end up lacking social skills, very introverted, afraid of anything outside their little closed social group. Because rather than getting out and socializing, which involves active things, they sit in front of terminals and video games instead.

Here is something, a very old video from 1972. This was Slade, the original GLAM band, very first one. After the first minute they start showing the audience. Look how thin the ladies are, nearly all of them. Now on campus, maybe 1 in 10 is like that. Why is this a good thing, being inactive, a couch potato, rather than an active person, who maybe reads good books instead?

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post Apr 13 2009, 11:33 PM
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Why is this a good thing, being inactive, a couch potato



Are you asking me?

I don't think it is a good thing.

Balance in everything is good. Is this like the World of Warcraft assumptions? Anyone who plays Guitar Hero HAS TO PLAY 80 hours a week? Says who?

Enjoying a video game does not a couch potato make.



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rather than an active person, who maybe reads good books instead?


I'm not sure how you read. But in my experience, reading is one of the LEAST active thing man has yet to come up with. Turn the page, move your eyes back and forth, repeat. Thats not going to lead to a smokin' body.


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I have no problem with Guitar Hero, I have it myself and it is a great party game. And it for sure introduces kids to some bands/artists that they would have never heard about I guess, it just doesn't have to do anything with really playing guitar in my opinion. It is a nice game, nothing more, nothing less.


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QUOTE (Skalde @ Apr 13 2009, 12:56 PM) *
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On the subject of GH, I've got to share these with you:

Finally a music simulation game that even I might be able to play:


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post Apr 14 2009, 05:28 PM
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I can understand why some say that Guitar Hero is not like playing real guitar at all... well, simply because it's just a game where you hit some buttons when they show up on the screen smile.gif

But in some ways I actually do think that it's a lot like real guitar (especially when playing at expert level). You really have to "get in the groove", and I believe that helps you understand rhythms. And you'll also learn better synchronicity between the left and right hand. These "skills" can easily be converted to real guitar playing, in my opinion. Of course you can learn these things with a real guitar as well, but I don't think this game is so bad after all...

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post Apr 14 2009, 10:15 PM
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I once tried Guitar Hero and found it rather boring. For me it was just pushing buttons and had nothing to do with music.
I was only paying intention to the screen and not the music, actually I didn't see to much relation with pushing the buttons and the music.
Obviously the point of Guitar Hero is to get in the Groove like, M.Lavendell said, but it didn't work for me.
Maybe it would have worked if I hadn't played real guitar. I can not see any downsides of the games either. For me it's just a game and music stays music.


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QUOTE (fkalich @ Apr 14 2009, 12:27 AM) *
Why is this a good thing, being inactive, a couch potato


It isn't a good thing, but it feels really good to do nothing and be an inactive couch potato smile.gif


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Unless you are reading a book.

Then somehow you are not a couch potato...

I'm still working on that one. I havent figured it out yet either.

And I'm pretty sure that playing thru even the most easiest of guitar hero songs on EASY burns a helluva lot more calories than reading.



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post Apr 15 2009, 12:14 AM
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Well, and I am pretty sure that reading books has much more benefits than playing guitar hero(expacailly for kids)
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QUOTE (Skalde @ Apr 15 2009, 12:14 AM) *
Well, and I am pretty sure that reading books has much more benefits than playing guitar hero(expacailly for kids)


This I agree with but there's no harm in doing both


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