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post Apr 19 2009, 03:03 PM
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try playing with a capo on the 2 nd or 3rd fret it will train your ear differently, play an old rythum transposed for the capo then play your lead in the key so your rythum is transposed dut your lead isn,t , when i did this i would hit por choice note (wrong notes) but it spoke differently to me. for me i wish i had the time to learn other keys better
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post Apr 19 2009, 10:26 PM
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I think I like the key of A and G, I think its because the backings that I have is mostly in those keys so Im most used to them, but my goal is to feel comfortable with all keys smile.gif
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post Apr 19 2009, 11:42 PM
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QUOTE (Artemus @ Apr 19 2009, 06:43 AM) *
I quite like this key
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but these keys have seen better days:
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(sorry - obvious pun. Had to do it tongue.gif)
On a serious note, for jamming on guitar E and A major and their relative minors, just because they hold the familiar licks. Sure it's easy to transpose on guitar but when you've plays licks in those positions from day dot you don't have to think so much and can let your fingers do the talking. In a band context, I've had to get familiar with D minor (aeolian and harmonic) and it's domiant phyrgian since drop D tuning seems to be the tuning of choice for the band I'm in.
Also, B minor and its modes for the 7 string.


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post Apr 20 2009, 09:09 AM
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QUOTE (Marcus Lavendell @ Apr 17 2009, 10:47 AM) *
Do you mean that you think in G major, even if the solo is in E minor?

Yeah, I'm like the next guy, only know the G scale by heart (for some weird reason I focussed unconciously on G major when I knew completely nothing about note names. And even after several years it never bores me to play in G major, I play it all over the fretboard and in other keys I knew only some boxes by heart... See it like this: if I would like to play in F major, I move the G mjor boxes up two frets or I tune in D. I'm gonna learn more about them other fancy notes and scales soon...

And when I improvise (like 80% of the time) I either use G major, move it or just don't think about scales at all... listen to the sound of some combinations and do it again; or just go completely crazy shredding the fretboard and not even mind wrong notes or repeat them wrong notes. The second time is always good, the first might suck (at least if you're the only one playing)

and for me there's not much difference between g major , e minor and the modal ways for playing G scale. But I do play mistakes against modal rules probably, but Then I just try again.
I learned some A major today... kick ass , I like it...

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post Apr 20 2009, 05:43 PM
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Most of my Blues stuff is based around E and A (Both keys Major and Minor) or G Major. This is just due to where the Scale Patterns lay within the open Chord shapes and also my Vocals which tend to be a bit more 'Gravelly' than Chris Rea!!
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Acoustically speaking I write more in G Maj, C Maj and D Maj or their relevant Minor shapes and adjust the Key to suit Vocals with a Capo.
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post Apr 20 2009, 06:59 PM
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Marcus i'm pretty sure you have written in Eb minor, it's just that you tune down a half step so although you are thinking in Em you are play Eb
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post Apr 21 2009, 05:24 AM
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Interesting topic, clearly shows the nuances of music, because obviously people have different approaches to the keys and how they sound - thats diversity of music for ya!

Personally, I seek expression first of all when composing. I think my mind has some notes that it wants to hear in certain situations, then I look for them, mingle them with some chords, and I usually end up playing something with no idea about the key. laugh.gif
But thats the least of all problems, keys are just ways of explaining what you're playing (as is all theory) and therefore makes it easier to talk about.
But as I said, my mind wants to hear something and I try to play it. To my ear, every key has a distinct expression and some keys facilitate those expressions easier than others.

That said, I like to mix keys during progressions, so that the sound doesn't get too repetative and dull. I like the counterpoints that those mixes can create!

That didn't help the topic much, I guess, but I hope it makes sense! laugh.gif
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post Apr 21 2009, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE (seagull @ Apr 21 2009, 06:24 AM) *
Interesting topic, clearly shows the nuances of music, because obviously people have different approaches to the keys and how they sound - thats diversity of music for ya!

Personally, I seek expression first of all when composing. I think my mind has some notes that it wants to hear in certain situations, then I look for them, mingle them with some chords, and I usually end up playing something with no idea about the key. laugh.gif
But thats the least of all problems, keys are just ways of explaining what you're playing (as is all theory) and therefore makes it easier to talk about.
But as I said, my mind wants to hear something and I try to play it. To my ear, every key has a distinct expression and some keys facilitate those expressions easier than others.

That said, I like to mix keys during progressions, so that the sound doesn't get too repetative and dull. I like the counterpoints that those mixes can create!

That didn't help the topic much, I guess, but I hope it makes sense! laugh.gif


+1 seagull
Perfectly explained.
But then again , it comes down to what kind of music have you been listening and what is your inner ear guiding you to do.
If all you ever listened was pop and blues, then your ear will guide you to make those chord progressions, its as simple as that wink.gif


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post Apr 21 2009, 08:22 AM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Apr 20 2009, 07:59 PM) *
Marcus i'm pretty sure you have written in Eb minor, it's just that you tune down a half step so although you are thinking in Em you are play Eb

Yes, but I don't tune down anymore.

But I did think in E-minor even though I actually played in Eb-minor, and I think most guitarists do that. The reason I tuned down was because I really like the tension in the strings. It's no big deal, but I prefer the strings a little looser than standard tuning smile.gif


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post Apr 21 2009, 09:18 AM
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QUOTE (Marcus Lavendell @ Apr 21 2009, 08:22 AM) *
Yes, but I don't tune down anymore.

But I did think in E-minor even though I actually played in Eb-minor, and I think most guitarists do that. The reason I tuned down was because I really like the tension in the strings. It's no big deal, but I prefer the strings a little looser than standard tuning smile.gif


I understand what you are saying but still, you have written music in Ebm. If you were to play in Ebm in standard tuning it would still sound the same smile.gif.

I agree sometimes it's nicer to have the strings slightly loser and tuning down to Eb will do that for you. Although at the moment i'm using .10s so it's not too bad for me.
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post Apr 21 2009, 09:39 AM
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my car keys, and I love also my home keys.

Whoa?!?! are we talking about music?!?! laugh.gif

I don't prefer keys while composing generally keys prefer me biggrin.gif But if I am composing for my band, I am generally limited with the range of vocals.

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I think i am in the same frame of mind as Pedja, i tend to view music as modal relationships rather then keys.


I think it stems from the fact that when i first learned how to play that was the first thing i learned, i learned the G Major scale in all the mode boxes. And that is how i see the fretboard from those shapes just moved around from tone center to tone center.


But i also agree that it depends if you are writing for a specific vocalist, you want to play to their strengths to make the music more powerful.


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post Apr 21 2009, 05:48 PM
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I think about modes too. The only way I learnt. Might be interesting to understand more about keys thought, when university ends I'll kick my ass and learn Andrew lessons.


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A major/D lydian, and also e minor.


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QUOTE (Marcus Lavendell @ Apr 21 2009, 09:22 AM) *
The reason I tuned down was because I really like the tension in the strings. It's no big deal, but I prefer the strings a little looser than standard tuning smile.gif


Same. I just went from 10s to 09s because of that. Tried Eb first, in 10s, but I didn't like it too much!
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