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purple hayes
post Apr 21 2009, 01:26 PM
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Muris, in his infinite guitar wisdom, rated this lesson a 3. ohmy.gif

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...picking-lesson/

I know that in the big scope of things, the difficulty level assigned to a lesson is pretty meaningless. But, my pride is weeping because a level 3 lesson is kicking my butt. unsure.gif

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post Apr 21 2009, 01:33 PM
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I have no problem with that Muris lesson as it is easy for someone who knows how to sweep... I guess I will fail at a lvl 3 Jazz lesson as I've no experience in Jazz playing!

To me it's the opposite, I think this lesson is to easy for a lvl 8 grading but that's just me...
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post Apr 21 2009, 01:34 PM
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Ahaha that sure wasn`t level 3 laugh.gif

Well i found this lesson not as easy as it marked - level 4. https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/pop_ro...re_on_phrasing/ To play it right is one thing, but to play it like Jose is completely different smile.gif

Hmm, if think in that way Zakk maybe it`s right, i thought about that in general, so 3 it`s like overall
beggining level ( not beggining in sweep ).

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post Apr 21 2009, 01:41 PM
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I don't think i've really found a hard "easy" lesson really or not that i can think of. However i can say the easiest "hard" level lesson would have to be Lian's slayer - advanced lesson
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post Apr 21 2009, 01:53 PM
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I agree with Zakk.....If you are comfortable with economy picking and your triads then these shapes are pretty basic. If you are new to these shapes and techniques then they are quite difficult. It is a very useful lesson so stick to it Purple Hayes.....it'll pay dividends in the end. smile.gif
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post Apr 21 2009, 02:13 PM
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QUOTE (lcsdds @ Apr 21 2009, 08:53 AM) *
I agree with Zakk.....If you are comfortable with economy picking and your triads then these shapes are pretty basic. If you are new to these shapes and techniques then they are quite difficult. It is a very useful lesson so stick to it Purple Hayes.....it'll pay dividends in the end. smile.gif

I've been working on it for 3 weeks. I can play it at about 120 BPM. I'll get it eventually. It's just my pride that's taken a beating for now.


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post Apr 21 2009, 02:27 PM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Apr 21 2009, 02:26 PM) *
Muris, in his infinite guitar wisdom, rated this lesson a 3. ohmy.gif

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...picking-lesson/

I know that in the big scope of things, the difficulty level assigned to a lesson is pretty meaningless. But, my pride is weeping because a level 3 lesson is kicking my butt. unsure.gif

/now you go.

hahahahahahaha level 3!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif smile.gif smile.gif biggrin.gif


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post Apr 21 2009, 03:03 PM
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QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Apr 21 2009, 03:27 PM) *
hahahahahahaha level 3!!! laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif smile.gif smile.gif biggrin.gif


https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-gu...n-style-lesson/

This one too.


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post Apr 21 2009, 03:03 PM
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I think all in all the lesson ratings are really a personal opinion of the one playing it. I agree there are some 8's that are easy, and some 3's and 4's that are hard.


Its all about what your into i think. I mean even for us instructors, we have licks that are staples of our own playing. For us certain influences come into play, and how they are put together fingering wise.

For example one of my big influences is George Lynch, so i know a lot of the shapes he uses and the context of the fingering.

If a certain lesson strays too far from our own influences it can be difficult to get your fingers around it. Like i have said in other posts, i think for myself some of Ivan's finger picking and blues lessons are some of the hardest for me because the main 5 or 6 guitarists that influenced me are very far away from that perspective.

So dont be so hard on yourself because the lesson is rated a 3. I bet i could find a "3" lesson that i would have trouble with too, almost assuredly.

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post Apr 21 2009, 03:08 PM
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It seems complicated Purple, I agree it might be too difficult for just a "3", then again as others stated, it all comes down to each individual's playing style.

Sweeping always scares me laugh.gif. I might start with this one just to face my demons smile.gif laugh.gif


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QUOTE (Fran @ Apr 21 2009, 10:08 AM) *
Sweeping always scares me laugh.gif . I might start with this one just to face my demons smile.gif laugh.gif


I used say, "I don't sweep."
Then I started admitting that I can't sweep.
Now I'm facing my demons so I can sweep.


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post Apr 21 2009, 03:50 PM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Apr 21 2009, 03:27 PM) *
I used say, "I don't sweep."
Then I started admitting that I can't sweep.
Now I'm facing my demons so I can sweep.

I used to say the same thing about AP.....I don't do it because I "don't like the sound". I don't do it because I can't. The reason I can't is because during my development my influences were heavily into legato and tapping. As a result I am decent at those and my AP is sorely lacking. Muris has me on the right track though and I am hoping that very soon I can start using some AP in my playing.

Stick with it purple and you'll get it down. I wrote a cool etude....at least I think it's cool laugh.gif ....that is all about arpeggios. Sweep arpeggios, tapping arpeggios and sweep/tap arpeggios. It is played over Muris's upstroke backing. I can't play it up to tempo yet so I am working on it. PM me and if you want I can email it to you.
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post Apr 21 2009, 04:26 PM
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The way I look at the level difficulty settings are down to the techniques used within, and how complicated they are in relation to those techniques.

A good example would be with Muris' sweeping lesson. Sweeping in general is seen as one of the "harder" techniques to master, but within the contex of sweep picking this is quite an easy lesson. So you could see it as two levels theoretically. If you were to put Sweeping in general as a level 7 technique to even begin, but within that category of playing, the lesson is actually a fairly easy one.

I'm not sure how to best explain myself but I believe this is a good method of setting the level difficulties.

I hope that this can be incoporated into the REC program at some point because I believe at the moment it's a bit lacking in fine detail.

For example, if a lesson level 3 is accomplished in sweeping - there should be a list of all the available guitar techniques you can master, with a tally of lesson scores for each technique.

This would indeed make the REC program more complicated to manage. However, the tools are all there. Every lesson has a level based on the techniques used in them, so the ground work is there.

This would be a feature that could have a huge selling point for future GMC enthusiasts.



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post Apr 21 2009, 05:41 PM
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I agree about the Slayer ''advanced'' lesson. It is really easy.

That Van Halen lesson by Muris would be 5-6 according to me.


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post Apr 21 2009, 06:29 PM
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i suggested some time ago in the suggestion area that we do in addition to the instructors rating of the lesson to do a member rating. each person can give the rating how hard the lesson is and the avg is probably the closest thing you can get to how hard it is for the "average" guitar player here on gmc. but i guess either the right people didn't see my suggestion or that they didn't agree. because everyone posted on that thread said it was a very good idea.


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QUOTE (vampire18 @ Apr 21 2009, 01:29 PM) *
i suggested some time ago in the suggestion area that we do in addition to the instructors rating of the lesson to do a member rating. each person can give the rating how hard the lesson is and the avg is probably the closest thing you can get to how hard it is for the "average" guitar player here on gmc. but i guess either the right people didn't see my suggestion or that they didn't agree. because everyone posted on that thread said it was a very good idea.


I think this is a great idea!

The average members gave could be displayed beside the instructor's rating.


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Anyone like this idea?


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So there will be 2 ratings? 1 from instructor and 1 from members? That would be great really, i think for example to rate a lesson needed at least 30 votes ( well this can vary of course)
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there is no need. because were not rating how good a lesson is. just how hard it is so even if only 5 people rate it its not so misleading. anyways if enough people and maybe an instructor or 2 would say its a good idea i will pm it to kris or if any instructor can talk to kris it would be even better.


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post Apr 21 2009, 07:41 PM
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I like the idea, but try not to look at lesson difficulty very much when searching something to practice.


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