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post May 6 2009, 07:52 PM
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I have 9s on my strat and 10s on my SG, and I find that I like 9sbetter lately, much more comfortable to play, so I'm thinking of changing to 9s on the SG too.

But I heard 10s are better for gibsons, something about them being thought to be played with 10s from factory... can that be true?

I mean I'm sure I can use any string gauge on any guitar, but would it really hinder the spirit of the SG much if I change to 9s?



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post May 6 2009, 07:55 PM
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You can play ANY string gauge on ANY guitar if it's set up right.

All Gibsons are set up for 10's from the factory so you might need to adjust the neck...

THAT RUMOR COMES FROM HARDCORE GIBSON FANS WHO SAY THAT LES PAULS NEED 10s OR HIGHER BECAUSE LES PAULS AREN'T LITTLE GIRLY GUITARS; THEY ARE GUITARS FOR MEN!!! ^^


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post May 6 2009, 07:58 PM
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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ May 6 2009, 08:55 PM) *
THAT RUMOR COMES FROM HARDCORE GIBSON FANS WHO SAY THAT LES PAULS NEED 10s OR HIGHER BECAUSE LES PAULS AREN'T LITTLE GIRLY GUITARS; THEY ARE GUITARS FOR MEN!!! ^^


laugh.gif I think I know who you might be referring too tongue.gif

I guess a good setup will be needed then.


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post May 6 2009, 08:17 PM
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QUOTE (ZakkWylde @ May 6 2009, 09:55 PM) *
THAT RUMOR COMES FROM HARDCORE GIBSON FANS WHO SAY THAT LES PAULS NEED 10s OR HIGHER BECAUSE LES PAULS AREN'T LITTLE GIRLY GUITARS; THEY ARE GUITARS FOR MEN!!! ^^

Aahahah agree laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post May 6 2009, 08:29 PM
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Rather have thin strings and kickass vibrato than 13s and get weak as a chicken! 9s FTW if you want it, man!!
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post May 6 2009, 08:34 PM
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I bet Zsolt can do kickass vibrato on 13s laugh.gif
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post May 6 2009, 09:01 PM
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I got 09's on my Les Paul all the time.


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post May 6 2009, 09:03 PM
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QUOTE (Trond Vold @ May 6 2009, 10:01 PM) *
I got 09's on my Les Paul all the time.


And Trond is THE MAN.
So I'm going 9s now for sure, muahahahahha haha ha!! cool.gif


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post May 6 2009, 09:08 PM
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Where ever you heard 10s are better for Gibsons, I don't think that can be true for everybody, try it out and see how they react, if they work for you, they are good wink.gif


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post May 6 2009, 09:10 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ May 6 2009, 11:08 PM) *
Where ever you heard 10s are better for Gibsons, I don't think that can be true for everybody, try it out and see how they react, if they work for you, they are good wink.gif

Zakk Wylde himself told him laugh.gif
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post May 6 2009, 09:18 PM
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Depends really, 10's suit a gibson coz it gives you a little fight, which i like, i like a bit of meat to bend aginst, i got 10s on my strat and my tele too but its a totally different feel because of the scale length (Like nines would feel on a Gibson lol!)
Can honestly say i cant see any benefit in having nines, less tuning stability, less sustain, slice your fingers more and i always used to flinch when tuning up a the high E with nines, that thing is like a cheesewire!
BUT.....as usual its all down to preference!!
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post May 6 2009, 09:30 PM
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Hi

I´m a little bit torn between 009 and 10´s. I feel I loose a just little bit of tone with 9´s but they feel better under my fingers than 10´s. I recently changed all my guitars to 9´s from 10´s, including my SG and LP. I´m not shure what I like better, but if the guitar is set up right for the gauge, then it should be ok, but I might go back to 10´s for my SG and LP, but the Ibanez and Strat will have 9´s.

About the tone being girly, thin or something like that is just bullshit. Jimmy Page used 9´s even 8´s in the early years. He also talked about in an interview that those players today that are all using heavy gauge to get thick tone, should bear in mind that most of those classic recordings from the 60´s and 70´s were made with 008 gauge strings. That was the standard in those days I think. Angus Young uses 009´s, even though his signature guitar comes with 10´s in it.

Then again, you can get custom sets, with light top and heavy bottom. smile.gif







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To me it feels really weird having a hughe and heavy guitar like a Les Paul or Explorer in my hands and the you have to play with slim and wobbly strings that have ZERO resistance when picking them... and a lot of people think this way

It's the opposite with Superstrats for example: You would feel weird if you have an Ibanez RG with a tremolo and a super fast neck and it is strung with 12-58 in E standard!!! Some might like it but most people want to play fast shredding on such a ''sports-guitar'' ^^ and therefore use light strings.

Personally I like thick strings, I never go below 10's on any guitar. It's not that I don't enjoy the easy bendings of 9s but I need some resistance for my picking + thicker strings give you a better tone and longer sustain

I strung my Les Paul with 11's and practiced Gary Moore and stuff (loads of bendings) until my fingers were strong enough to bend and vibrato 11's like they were 9s (it hurts but it is very rewarding)


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post May 7 2009, 07:18 AM
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QUOTE (AlexLion @ May 6 2009, 09:34 PM) *
I bet Zsolt can do kickass vibrato on 13s laugh.gif


I doubt it tongue.gif
If he can, it's pretty impressive.
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QUOTE (kjutte @ May 7 2009, 09:18 AM) *
I doubt it tongue.gif
If he can, it's pretty impressive.

I think sick vibrato with 10s on 22 fret with normal tuning IS impressive smile.gif Aaah, need more vibrato practice.. it`s mindblowing.
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QUOTE (Gilmore @ May 6 2009, 10:30 PM) *
Then again, you can get custom sets, with light top and heavy bottom. smile.gif


That's what I use ATM biggrin.gif

A lot of artists are using 9s on live gigs and 10s in studios smile.gif


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Hey Fran, I think somebody already mentioned this. Gibson's handle heavier strings better because of the Scale Length. There shouldn't be any reason why you can't use 9's on it although they may feel a little bit 'loose'!
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I use 10s on my SG. I never did like 9s on it. The high e was too thin to work on that guitar in my opinion. But you are a different player to me of course so it might work for you. It just didn't for me sad.gif


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QUOTE (AlexLion @ May 7 2009, 08:36 AM) *
I think sick vibrato with 10s on 22 fret with normal tuning IS impressive smile.gif Aaah, need more vibrato practice.. it`s mindblowing.


Good vibrato in general is impressive. smile.gif
Too bad many lack it.

QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ May 7 2009, 02:28 PM) *
although they may feel a little bit 'loose'!


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QUOTE (kjutte @ May 7 2009, 04:10 PM) *
pfft.

So you're saying that you won't feel any difference??? All I'm saying is that if Fran's very used to playing with 10's then 9's on an SG will feel a hell of a lot 'looser' due to the shorter Scale Length.


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