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You Rhythm Rascal You!, good MIDI editor for drums
MickeM
May 8 2009, 02:06 PM
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I've been browing for a MIDI editor for drums that's not a pianoroll. Found www.rhythmrascal.com which seem to work nicely.

It's possible to combine patterns into an entire song, then I've exported it to MIDI and brought it into Reaper and added EZdrummer to it. Sounds teriffic! And to me I find it easier to work with compared to pianoroll.

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Muris Varajic
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Just one question if I may Micke, what do you mean
by pianoroll drum editor? smile.gif

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So instead of clicking on piano in Cubase you could do that in that program and then export and play with EZ?

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I will definitely use it, thanks for sharing MickeM!

P.S. Your link doesn't work when you click on it smile.gif

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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ May 8 2009, 03:20 PM) *
P.S. Your link doesn't work when you click on it smile.gif


Doesn't work for me either. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 8 2009, 03:25 PM) *
Doesn't work for me either. smile.gif



I guess he wants us to copy paste it on our own smile.gif

I tried it that way and it works now

Here is a link http://www.rhythmrascal.com/

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Muris Varajic
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ May 8 2009, 03:27 PM) *
I guess he wants us to copy paste it on our own smile.gif

I tried it that way and it works now

Here is a link http://www.rhythmrascal.com/


Ahh, well spotted, thanks. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 8 2009, 03:28 PM) *
Ahh, well spotted, thanks. smile.gif


You welcome Muris

Let me know when you test it ! smile.gif

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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ May 8 2009, 03:08 PM) *
Just one question if I may Micke, what do you mean
by pianoroll drum editor? smile.gif

I mean the keyboard editor kind of editing, from up to down, clicking on G for bass, F# for Snare etc.

Rhythmrascal is a diagram of e.g. 4 beats where you mark with a cross where there's supposed to be a sound.

QUOTE (AlexLion @ May 8 2009, 03:12 PM) *
So instead of clicking on piano in Cubase you could do that in that program and then export and play with EZ?

Create all the rhythm in Rhytmrascal, save as MIDI file, bring it into your DAW (I've tested Reaper) and then add EZD as a Vst instrument on the DAW track

QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ May 8 2009, 03:20 PM) *
I will definitely use it, thanks for sharing MickeM!

P.S. Your link doesn't work when you click on it smile.gif

Ooooops. Link fixed! smile.gif

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This is a nice tool but I still prefer to draw my midi events myself. That way I keep it all under control and know exactly what I have done.

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QUOTE (MickeM @ May 8 2009, 03:49 PM) *
I mean the keyboard editor kind of editing, from up to down, clicking on G for bass, F# for Snare etc.

Rhythmrascal is a diagram of e.g. 4 beats where you mark with a cross where there's supposed to be a sound.


Create all the rhythm in Rhytmrascal, save as MIDI file, bring it into your DAW (I've tested Reaper) and then add EZD as a Vst instrument on the DAW track


You don´t have to do it like that, I think there are drummaps included in Cubase for EZ drummer, if not you can import them. Then instead of the pianoroll on the leftside of the screen you will have name of the drums and each drum will have it´s line on the grid. Then you can just click the grid to insert the beats. But the Rythmrascal program looks really interesting. thanks for this link, I will definetly try that one. smile.gif

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QUOTE (MickeM @ May 8 2009, 03:51 PM) *
I mean the keyboard editor kind of editing, from up to down, clicking on G for bass, F# for Snare etc.

Rhythmrascal is a diagram of e.g. 4 beats where you mark with a cross where there's supposed to be a sound.


Ah, I see, thanks!

But you can also do the same or similar thing in "piano" editor,
all you have to do is to change Midi map to GM
and you'll have only dots to write/edit and you
can hear the sample along as you are writing with the pencil.
Major problem is when you don't set Midi map to GM
and sample lasts equal to the note that you've written,
that works fine for bass etc but creates hell for making drum grooves. smile.gif

Thanks for input Gilmore, once you switch to GM or custom drum map
all piano keys on the left are gone and you have names for each kit.
names are tricky tho and I don't look at them at all
since almost every VST drum has different setup for kit elements,
of course you can always make custom drum maps
for each VST or program that you're using.

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QUOTE (Gilmore @ May 8 2009, 03:54 PM) *
You don´t have to do it like that, I think there are drummaps included in Cubase for EZ drummer, if not you can import them. Then instead of the pianoroll on the leftside of the screen you will have name of the drums and each drum will have it´s line on the grid. Then you can just click the grid to insert the beats. But the Rythmrascal program looks really interesting. thanks for this link, I will definetly try that one. smile.gif

I don't have Cubase and don't seem to get other than "diamon" dots in Reaper - which they call drum mode.
However, I'm thinking of buying a Zoon H4n and some Cubase version comes along with it.

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Why do you use pianoroll when you can use Drum Maps? smile.gif
Or isn't that an option in Reaper? unsure.gif

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QUOTE (audiopaal @ May 8 2009, 05:36 PM) *
Why do you use pianoroll when you can use Drum Maps? smile.gif
Or isn't that an option in Reaper? unsure.gif

I have no idea laugh.gif I can use diamond shaped dots and "named notes" (without text though) but if that is the "drum map" to use idk...

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QUOTE (MickeM @ May 8 2009, 02:12 PM) *
I have no idea laugh.gif I can use diamond shaped dots and "named notes" (without text though) but if that is the "drum map" to use idk...


I think it is Micke. Nice little program though, thanks for the share. Is this how you set-up your projecy in Reaper atm?

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QUOTE (MickeM @ May 8 2009, 04:44 PM) *
I don't have Cubase and don't seem to get other than "diamon" dots in Reaper - which they call drum mode.
However, I'm thinking of buying a Zoon H4n and some Cubase version comes along with it.


Ohhh man, my bad, I was talking about Cubase all the time
and forgot that you mentioned Reaper way above. laugh.gif

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In my opinion the reapers midi editor is the best, even better than the cubase editor. I would always prefer the midi sequenzer instead of rhythm rascals interface, because you can copy segments and adjust velocity of each note very easily. Nice that it works for you so well, but I don't get why it should sound better?

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QUOTE (Skalde @ May 9 2009, 01:30 AM) *
In my opinion the reapers midi editor is the best, even better than the cubase editor. I would always prefer the midi sequenzer instead of rhythm rascals interface, because you can copy segments and adjust velocity of each note very easily. Nice that it works for you so well, but I don't get why it should sound better?

I don't think I stated it should sound better, I just prefer the drummachine approach to making beats since I find it to be quick and easy.
Easiest of all is when I can take a beat from EZD and just paste it and be happy with it.

The Rhythm Rascal is for setting up the beat in an easy way. Humanize and Quantize to get a random "human" feeling can be made in Reaper. Or if you want to edit the velcity of each not by hand, you still have that option in Reaper.

QUOTE (skennington @ May 8 2009, 08:44 PM) *
I think it is Micke. Nice little program though, thanks for the share. Is this how you set-up your projecy in Reaper atm?


Yes, that's the Reaper drum approach.

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Thanks for sharing Mickem, seems like a useful tool! smile.gif

BTW, can it be used inside a DAW?

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