Where I'm at - where shall I go next? |
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Feb 7 2007, 07:17 PM
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Hi All,
Here is a fragment of a version of the work song (old Jazz standard) that pretty much captures where I am at lead-wise. Like a lot of the stuff I have been doing, I think it is a little dull and uninspired. I'm trying to figure out how to take my playing to the next level - any suggestions on techniques I can work on to add some excitement here? Check the 3rd post in the thread for the actual file - I messed up the upload! Thanks! This post has been edited by Andrew Cockburn: Feb 7 2007, 08:02 PM -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Feb 7 2007, 07:36 PM
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Well that was one minute and a half of silence Oo
What am I missin here? |
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Feb 7 2007, 07:53 PM
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But GOOD silence no ?
Doh, it was the wrong file -try this one instead - sorry! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab |
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Feb 8 2007, 02:17 PM
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Thanks Steelkonsum - by the way, I LIKED your lesson even though you say you sucked - although I can play ok on a couple of scales, one thing I have found I am lacking is any idea at all that there are more than 2 major scales ... I just found out about CAGED and I am now practicing new scales feverishly. Long story short, my next challenge will be to hook them all together in long runs, and your lesson helped me start to visualize that, even though it has now gone
 Why: Thanks for your kind words - I started practicing with a metronome just yesterday, that should help. Speed picking here I come! I'll post a new version of this in a few months/years when I can play something better! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab |
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Feb 8 2007, 02:42 PM
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Well now I finally know CAGED exists, it makes sense to me - its just a fancy way of saying "Dude, you can play the same scales all over the place"
 Better yet, the thing I like about it, if I understand correctly, is that CAGED major scales give you free access to minor scales (use the relative minor) and modes too if you know what you are doing although modes confuse the crap out of ME - I've seen many guitar tutorials online and I think I am just missing something essential, or perhaps failing to work on them for several years until I understand them ... maybe I'll ask for a modes lesson in the request forum, I haven't seen one on the site yet. Anyway, thanks for putting the lesson back up, I'll have a go at it tonight. -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
Live long and prosper ... My Stuff: Electric Guitars : Ibanez Jem7v, Line6 Variax 700, Fender Plus Strat with 57/62 Pickups, Line6 Variax 705 Bass Acoustic Guitars : Taylor 816ce, Martin D-15, Line6 Variax Acoustic 300 Nylon Effects : Line6 Helix, Keeley Modded Boss DS1, Keeley Modded Boss BD2, Keeley 4 knob compressor, Keeley OxBlood Amps : Epiphone Valve Jnr & Head, Cockburn A.C.1, Cockburn A.C.2, Blackstar Club 50 Head & 4x12 Cab |
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Feb 9 2007, 10:11 PM
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Hi radarlove1984 - thanks for your comments. I hadn't thought about the blues brother movies for a while
 For the CAGED system I used this link - its a fairly easy discussion. If that doesn't work for you I'll try and answer any questions you have. What the CAGED system actually is, is a group of scales and associated chords that let you play the same notes at different places on the fretboard. Its called CAGED because the initials stand for the open fret chords that the scales are based on. I'm still working on it, but when you know your CAGED scales inside out, you should be able to: 1. Move to particular scale without going a huge distance up and down the neck from where you are e.g. If you are playing in the key of A using the 'E' scale from CAGED, and need to move to a scale in the key of D, you could move up 5 frets and play the same scale, but it is easier to stay in the same place and play a different scale (in this case the 'A' scale) The E and A scales are named for the open chords that their shapes are based around, not the actual scale itself, so although saying "play and A scale with the E shape" sounds a little crazy, it makes sense when you look at how the notes all fit together. 2. Connect all of the different scales together so that you can do monster runs all the way from low low notes to high high notes. If you just had one scale you would need to jump a whole octave (12 frets) at some point - very hard. Using CAGED, you can play different parts of the same scale a couple of tones up, and keep moving up in easy steps. (I'm still tring to figure this part out) 3. CAGED also helps with your chords. For any chord you want to play, there is an option for each of the CAGED scales that will fit what you are trying to do, giving you a lot more options without moving up and down the neck so much. I hope that helps and hasn't confused you more
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Feb 9 2007, 10:24 PM
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I have heard people banging on about "CAGED" use of the fretboard but I could never fully understand it, I will have to have another look and see if its ready to click with me yet.
Andrew, I did not comment on your playing, I actually loved it, thats how I aspire to play. -------------------- its not easy
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Feb 9 2007, 10:37 PM
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QUOTE (fretdancer @ Feb 9 2007, 04:24 PM)  Andrew, I did not comment on your playing, I actually loved it, thats how I aspire to play. Thanks! 
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Feb 9 2007, 11:26 PM
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Thanks for the link. I've been putting off learning stuff like this for a while now. I'll give it a try over the weekend.
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Feb 10 2007, 10:24 AM
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I enjoyed it
 nice man
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Feb 11 2007, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE (Liam @ Feb 10 2007, 04:24 AM) I enjoyed it nice manThanks Liam! -------------------- Check out my Instructor profile
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Feb 11 2007, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE (PickNGrin @ Feb 11 2007, 12:10 PM) I liked it a lot! Some nice feel over some complex backing chords. hey, the bends are not sour, its in time, its in tune, its fairly well mixed. Not too much messy background noise, not overloaded with effects / gain / distortion. You are not putting all your effort into trying to play as many notes as you possibly can, you are putting your effort into the music. It's also not too long of a clip. Nice job! Thanks PickNGrin - really like your cool picture thingy that draws itself ;-) Wow, you guys have all been really kind to me - thank you very much. As PickNGrin pointed out, for me it has always been about the complete song, not just the guitar parts, sometimes I even write songs with no guitar in them  (though not too many) I am enough of an egotist though, to want to completely blow everyone away when I rip into a solo, just like the rest of us, which means I need to learn to play like Kris and Pavel. One thing this thread has done, is allow me to be a little more objective about what I do reasonably well - I was pretty down on myself as a guitarist because I hadn't done anything new in such a long time. Now I feel like I have a starting point and a good idea of where I want to go next - thank you all for your help getting me on this road
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Feb 14 2007, 03:50 AM
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oh my god this was really really good! my jaw dropped to the floor
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Feb 14 2007, 09:59 AM
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I join the quire - feely stuff!
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