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Velvet Roger
post May 24 2009, 07:10 PM
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Hey Pedja,

Here is my take. Good that I had my acoustic with me on holidays to find some melodic ideas already wink.gif .

Tried to frequently change between syncopated and some straight passages and hopefully I succeeded in it smile.gif.
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post May 24 2009, 07:43 PM
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QUOTE (Velvet Roger @ May 24 2009, 08:10 PM) *
Hey Pedja,

Here is my take. Good that I had my acoustic with me on holidays to find some melodic ideas already wink.gif .

Tried to frequently change between syncopated and some straight passages and hopefully I succeeded in it smile.gif.


Very nice Roger, this can definitely work man ! smile.gif


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post May 24 2009, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ May 24 2009, 08:43 PM) *
Very nice Roger, this can definitely work man ! smile.gif


Nice, was fun recording this one smile.gif


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post May 25 2009, 06:34 AM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ May 24 2009, 06:09 AM) *
Jeff this is really syncopated !
You definitely did great job with syncopated rhythm. I was looking for both syncopated and straight rhythm soloing.
See if you can submit another take that includes regular rhythm as well !


I'll work on it, but I'm really liking that take for my own reasons.. sounds like I'm actually playing Jazz! That little bend at the end is nice. smile.gif


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post May 25 2009, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (jdriver @ May 25 2009, 07:34 AM) *
I'll work on it, but I'm really liking that take for my own reasons.. sounds like I'm actually playing Jazz! That little bend at the end is nice. smile.gif


You are right smile.gif The more syncopated, the more Jazz feel it adds to the solo.


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post May 25 2009, 12:26 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ May 22 2009, 09:49 AM) *
kjutte this sounds extra cool man, I wasn't aware of your softer side cool.gif Very nice and smooth playing.


Thanks alot man, I appreciate it!
It's composed though, not improv :/
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Hi Pedja,

As i told you, i was not with my guitars for a few days and had finally the chance last night to jam to you backing. I came up with this first take, basically improvised.

I hope i balanced enough syncopated and straight rhythms to each other(?)

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post May 26 2009, 09:29 AM
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QUOTE (wrk @ May 26 2009, 09:50 AM) *
Hi Pedja,

As i told you, i was not with my guitars for a few days and had finally the chance last night to jam to you backing. I came up with this first take, basically improvised.

I hope i balanced enough syncopated and straight rhythms to each other(?)

Attached File  Pedja_Class_4_Syncopated_Soloing_wbt_01.mp3 ( 867K ) Number of downloads: 125
Attached File  Pedja_Class_4_Syncopated_Soloing_nbt_01.mp3 ( 785.63K ) Number of downloads: 98


Hi Andy,

This was very melodic take but also very syncopated take. There were hardly any downbeat type rhythms.
I know that this backing has huge and I mean huge tendency to pull everybody to do syncopated soloing, but you can still try to keep some straight soloing in there smile.gif

I will post my take within an hour so you can hear what I am talking about smile.gif


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post May 26 2009, 09:51 AM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ May 26 2009, 10:29 AM) *
Hi Andy,

This was very melodic take but also very syncopated take. There were hardly any downbeat type rhythms.
I know that this backing has huge and I mean huge tendency to pull everybody to do syncopated soloing, but you can still try to keep some straight soloing in there smile.gif

I will post my take within an hour so you can hear what I am talking about smile.gif

Thanks Pedja. Thats true, syncopated rhythms come easy to this backing. I thought i mixed syncopated and straight notes. Not as long sequences, but notes to each other .. i'm looking forward to your take, will be interesting to see how you do it !!

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post May 26 2009, 11:09 AM
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Here is my take guys hope you like it !


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post May 26 2009, 11:19 AM
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Really cool, Pedja! Phrasing lessons!!!!
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post May 26 2009, 11:28 AM
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QUOTE (kjutte @ May 26 2009, 12:19 PM) *
Really cool, Pedja! Phrasing lessons!!!!


Thanks a lot Kjutte ! Phrasing lessons... Every collaboration solo is phrasing lesson ? smile.gif


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post May 26 2009, 12:42 PM
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Taken down for revision.

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QUOTE (Oxac @ May 26 2009, 01:42 PM) *
My take. I hope you like it, as always I post the first attempt so that you can point out all the mistakes for me biggrin.gif


I like melodic approach you took here Oxac !
Rhythm and phrasing was either rushed or behind. Did you compose it or it was improvised?
Record another one because phrasing is all over the place (ahead and behind the beat) smile.gif


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Hmm, I think it has to do with me not knowing how to disable the metronome in Logic >.<


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QUOTE (Oxac @ May 26 2009, 01:49 PM) *
Hmm, I think it has to do with me not knowing how to disable the metronome in Logic >.<


I know you can play in time this is why I was surprised to hear this on and off phrasing !
I dont use Logic but perhaps somebody who uses it could help with that?
Look under options disable metronome smile.gif Sounds easy hehe


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post May 26 2009, 01:50 PM
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No, the metronome wasn't the only problem. Someone here needs to work on his timing appearently. Well I've decided to upload the new take anyway.
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QUOTE (Oxac @ May 26 2009, 01:49 PM) *
Hmm, I think it has to do with me not knowing how to disable the metronome in Logic >.<


Hi Oxac, you can deactivate the metronome on the bottom/right side. Click and hold with the mouse and a little popup will appear. See screenshot ..

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QUOTE (Oxac @ May 26 2009, 02:50 PM) *
No, the metronome wasn't the only problem. Someone here needs to work on his timing appearently. Well I've decided to upload the new take anyway.


This was much better take then first one, seriously man.
First of all timing is spot on here. When I listen to solo by itself only I can hear rhythms clearly with foot tapping for example. Previous one was rushed or slowing down with click, this one is much better.

If you want to correct things in this solo I would say some wrong notes (you could tell where they are), and phrasing in the very last seconds of solo (unclear rhythm figure smile.gif

I can keep this if you want me to !


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Yeah, I tried to do one Fully written part and one fully improvised part. The written part is untill the ascending/descending bend. Everything else is improvised. But I agree completely with the ending and mistakes.

Btw, the second last tone, I somehow managed to stumble on right? That's what messing up the ending I think. With a proper note duration there it would be much better.

Feels really good that I was able to correct it (to some extent). I'm not a hopeless case tongue.gif

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