Lets's settle this guys, with a RoCK OFF! (only kidding, Kris and Pavel would own us) |
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Feb 14 2007, 03:04 AM
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I voted eric clapton. I really like jimi hendrix, SRV and johnny winter too though.
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Feb 14 2007, 08:28 AM
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QUOTE (brainlesswonder @ Feb 14 2007, 07:41 AM)  The term "over rated" always puzzles me. It makes no logical sense. Is it a term that people apply to someone they just don't like or something? Jimi is obviously one of the most influencial guitarists of a generation, thus being "rated" as anything other than what he was makes no sense. The world has a million talented guitarists, but far fewer musicians that play guitar. I think Hendrix really deserves the credit he gets. In his time, well there was nobody who played like Hendrix. I still put Jimmy Page above him though. Here is a clip you may not have seen, of Jimmy Page when he was 14. Maybe "Skiffle" will come back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epXeC40P80o I realize that Vai and others have a much more advanced style, music has evolved technically. I am factoring the skill grading for these guitarists in context of the time when they produced their music. By the mid 70's Zeppelin was as dead as Hendrix in my view. I am judging Page's skill level based on what he was then, compared to what else was out there. By that criteria, he was at the top of the class, as Vai is today, in skill. But in terms of song writing ability, who contributed more than Zeppelin? Keep in mind that Zeppelin was as much a guitar band as a vocal band, song writing manifested itself in the way Page played, which was very often quite innovative. The influence is very embedded in modern guitar music. This post has been edited by fkalich: Feb 14 2007, 09:23 AM |
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Feb 14 2007, 02:55 PM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Feb 14 2007, 07:28 AM) I think Hendrix really deserves the credit he gets. In his time, well there was nobody who played like Hendrix. I still put Jimmy Page above him though. Here is a clip you may not have seen, of Jimmy Page when he was 14. Maybe "Skiffle" will come back. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epXeC40P80o I realize that Vai and others have a much more advanced style, music has evolved technically. I am factoring the skill grading for these guitarists in context of the time when they produced their music. By the mid 70's Zeppelin was as dead as Hendrix in my view. I am judging Page's skill level based on what he was then, compared to what else was out there. By that criteria, he was at the top of the class, as Vai is today, in skill. But in terms of song writing ability, who contributed more than Zeppelin? Keep in mind that Zeppelin was as much a guitar band as a vocal band, song writing manifested itself in the way Page played, which was very often quite innovative. The influence is very embedded in modern guitar music. Wow The nail has been firmly hit on the head! I agree completely. But Lets not call Zeppelin a guitar band, because if anything the main member was Bonham(RIP) His Druming was the foundation of the band! So if anything i would call them a drum band.  As for Hendrix, Overated means when someone is said to be better than they really are, as in they are rated by fellow musicians without proper justification. Hendrix did do a a lot for electrick guitar but no where as much as people think, he was a blues guitarist with distortion (NOT invented by him! But by clapton a couple of years before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!in the "beano" album) Hendrix was not rock, nor did he invent rock guitar (that was Mr. Jimmy Page and clapton to some extent) And he was a rhythm guitarist.........so Hendrix=Overrated |
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Feb 14 2007, 08:39 PM
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Amen to that! how could i Have Forgot Angus? He Rocks
 I was just watchin the Live at donnigton DVD and he really is stoned so badly i dont even think he knows were he is lmao 
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Feb 14 2007, 09:40 PM
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QUOTE (Aryo @ Feb 14 2007, 02:55 PM) distortion (NOT invented by him! But by clapton a couple of years before!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!in the "beano" album) It can't have been Clapton, he started off in the mid 60's, Link Wray was playing with a distorted sound already in -58 and _probably_ was the first. (I say probably since I don't want to state incorrect facts with a couple dozen exclamation marks incase someone know for a fact of someone who was earlier than -58) QUOTE (Aryo @ Feb 14 2007, 02:55 PM) And he was a rhythm guitarist.........so Hendrix=Overrated Hendrix came with a new amp/guitar-sound and developed a genre, influences a lot of people, is still selling records soon 40 years after his death. You'd probably say all of that is proof of being ovverrated but it could aswell be because you don't understand his greatness. Right? So it's rather a matter of opinion. And as for being a rhythm guitarist and automatically be "overrated" is just silly. Can't you appreciate a good rhythm guitarist? Ever listened to Malcolm Young and being impressed over how super great he plays, so damn tight. Would that make him a better guitarist than Angus? Maybe. I'd say so at least. Does that make Angus, who's name is mentioned a lot more since he play lead, overrated? QUOTE (Aryo @ Feb 14 2007, 02:55 PM) As for Hendrix, Overated means when someone is said to be better than they really are Better at what, shredding, tapping? He was an inventor of sound and style which many many guitarists have picked up on. Many a lot more technical at playing than Hendrix was. But inventing something completely new and different, how can that make him worse than he really is??????? I've heard it before, ppl who say Hendrix is overrated. Sometimes I belive it's just a way to show off some special "knowledge" and an "opinion" that to some uninitiated ears will sound professional. I must confess I don't listen to Hendrix and I don't play his songs or riffs, it's not my bag, never the less I recognise BS when I see it. This post has been edited by MickeM: Feb 14 2007, 09:44 PM -------------------- My bands homepage
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