 What Scale To Use For "extended Chords Ballad"lesson, just want to improvice |
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 Jun 17 2009, 09:59 PM
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Hi Joe
I want to improvice over this lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/extended-chords-ballad/ I know the key is F major. So I can use D minor scale or F maj scale. But for a few fast legato kinda 3 notes per string runs what scales/mode can i use for this lesson? Maybe a scale diagram picture to make it visible. Thx in advance. -------------------- Gear:
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Jun 17 2009, 11:54 PM
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Hi, I'm Jer. Not Joe.
Do you mean besides the Dmin and Fmaj scales? QUOTE (playaxeman @ Jun 17 2009, 03:59 PM)  Hi Joe I want to improvice over this lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/extended-chords-ballad/ I know the key is F major. So I can use D minor scale or F maj scale. But for a few fast legato kinda 3 notes per string runs what scales/mode can i use for this lesson? Maybe a scale diagram picture to make it visible. Thx in advance. -------------------- My Gear
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Jun 18 2009, 01:58 AM
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Jun 18 2009, 10:30 AM
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QUOTE (jer @ Jun 18 2009, 12:54 AM) Hi, I'm Jer. Not Joe. Do you mean besides the Dmin and Fmaj scales? Hi Jer, Yes beside those two. -------------------- Gear:
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Jun 21 2009, 10:12 PM
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QUOTE (playaxeman @ Jun 17 2009, 10:59 PM) Hi Joe I want to improvice over this lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/extended-chords-ballad/ I know the key is F major. So I can use D minor scale or F maj scale. But for a few fast legato kinda 3 notes per string runs what scales/mode can i use for this lesson? Maybe a scale diagram picture to make it visible. Thx in advance. No one? anybody?? 
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Jun 22 2009, 08:33 AM
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In order to find out which other scales you can use over certain sections in the backing you have to actually determine which notes are in the chords and find a scale that corresponds with those notes (I am just forgetting now on any chord harmony relationships).
In this case all the Fmaj variants make you are able to use also C major scale notes (F lydian mode). Over the Gm7 and Bb sections you could use the F major scale notes (G dorian mode) to improvise. But basically F major fits literally all chords best if you ask me  Hopefully it helps a bit. This post has been edited by Velvet Roger: Jun 22 2009, 08:39 AM -------------------- "Don't practice until you get it right. Practice until you can't get it wrong." Guitars & Amps Brian Moore DC-1 Custom Shop (Cherry Sunburst, mahogany/rosewood) Eric Johnson Signature Strat (2-tone Sunburst, alder/maple) Ibanez RG770 (Black, basswood/rosewood) Peerless Journeyman (solid spruce/maple) Sixt Bov-105C (Ovation-like acoustic) - Ibanez SGT-130 (Jumbo acoustic) London City VS-1 (Precision bass) - Baton Rouge U3S (Ukelele) Fender HotRod Deluxe 40W combo - Fender Princeton Reverb Reissue 5W combo - Marshall JCM 900 50W Hi-Gain combo Effects & Other stuff POD Studio UX2 audio interface - Edirol MA-15D monitors EH Double Muff - Fulltone GT-500 - Fulltone Fulldrive 2 Mosfet - Guitarsystems TrebleTool Junior - Guitarsystems FuzzTool Junior Korg Pitchblack Tuner - MXR Carbon Copy Analog Delay - TC Electronics Nova Modulator - Morley Bad Horsie 2 Wah Shure SM58 - Roland PCR-500 midi controller/keyboard & Yamaha Clavinova CL-910 piano My Website My MySpace Page My YouTube Channel My Twitter Account My Band 'Gonzo!' |
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Jun 22 2009, 11:13 AM
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 Thx Velvet Roger
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Jan 28 2010, 12:18 AM
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well you can play over it horizontally with the F major scale, or vertically highlighting the chord changes.
1. F major scale try to not sustain the 4th degree of the scale Bb which is an avoid note, use it as a passing tone 2. highlighting the changes all the diatonic modes works and arpeggio also for example Fmajor F Ionian - Gm7 G Dorian - Am7 Phrygian and so on all the major modes My suggestion is use the F major scale paying attention to the 4th degree check this lesson in particular https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/major-soloing-no-4th/ Keep Rocking, Joe This post has been edited by Joe Kataldo: Jan 28 2010, 12:18 AM -------------------- ________________________________________________________________________________ |
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