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post Jul 2 2009, 09:02 PM
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Hi,
I'm a new member but not a new player and I am working on the first solo pedal section of 'I'll see the light tonight' by Yngwie. Although I'm in my 60's I have worked up to a new speed with the brilliant metronome practice as taught by you guys at GMC but I'm not quite there yet.
My question is; The speed I build up to one day encourages me at the end of my practice routine but the next day when I continue my practice, it seems I have to start again somewhat slower and then it takes me a while to get to where I was the day before (if you see what I mean). How is it you guys can pick up the guitar and go for it every time, I mean how long will it take me, how many times do I have to play it at one metronome speed before I move up to the next notch to nail this section, is it my age or arn't I doing it right.
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post Jul 2 2009, 09:10 PM
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That's all normal. The same happens to me even after more than 25 years of playing. Just keep practicing and you'll be fine. Even Yngwie needs to warm up before he goes for something very fast.


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post Jul 2 2009, 09:28 PM
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It's normal as Emir said, you just have to be patient. Best way to achive faster tempos is by playing precise everything you play, and I mean extremely precise. Having that in mind and focusing on precision while you push up the tempo will get you much further. When you see you cannot go any further, you become a bit sloppy, stop and rest. In a couple of days or in a week the stuff will settle down and you will be able to push the speed a bit more, and so on...


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post Jul 2 2009, 09:29 PM
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All normal, no need for panic.
And the more you practice ( hours per week )
the less warm-up you'll need to get back in shape. smile.gif


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post Jul 2 2009, 09:47 PM
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Thanks guys for your input on this, I got a little down about it thinking I'm not good enough to go further with it but I am now inspired and enthusiastic again knowing its normal.
Many thanks Tony
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post Jul 2 2009, 10:02 PM
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QUOTE (tonyparnham @ Jul 2 2009, 04:47 PM) *
Thanks guys for your input on this, I got a little down about it thinking I'm not good enough to go further with it but I am now inspired and enthusiastic again knowing its normal.
Many thanks Tony


Tony I feel that way all the time. But I enjoy the guitar so I continue. I practice a little triplet exercise that Emir gave me almost everyday. I'm nowhere near the speed he can play it, but I'm faster than I was. I realize it will just take time and practice. Problem is us older guys are running out of time. biggrin.gif


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post Jul 2 2009, 10:42 PM
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Always remember that playing an instrument is like any other physical activity. A guy that can run 100m in 8 sec. needs a lot of training and he won't be able to do it unless he warms up a little before trying such a demanding thing.
So, don't panic, it's perfectly normal.
Just keep practicing and the level you have when you grab your guitar will increase with the time.


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post Jul 3 2009, 01:46 AM
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Excellent original post !
You have basically described what playing with metronome and moving tempos is really like. At times when you are warmed up and into it , tempos seem normal and natural. When you grab guitar tomorrow and try the same tempo it doesn't work that way!
Do you think guys who sprint for gold medals every day train with their top speeds immediately ? Of course not, otherwise their muscles would get strained and injured smile.gif So they just like us need to warm up stretch and reach their best time.
The same thing applies to metronome. Over couple of years time your starting tempo will be definitely changed. Lets say now you can play 16th notes at 80 bpm without any mistakes as soon as you grab guitar. Well in 2-3-4-5 years (depending on when how and what you practice) your starting tempo might be 100,120bpm!
Thats the beauty of metronome anyways but I am very glad to see you had that revelation. Keep up the good work you are on the right track, don't get discouraged !!!

P.S. I just saw that Ramiro made very similar analogy that I mentioned with running - awesome smile.gif

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post Jul 3 2009, 08:14 AM
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Thank you everyone for your input on this post, I suppose I stupidly thought that I might achieve the level you chaps could in a week or two. I now have things properly in perspective from your excellent advice and now rather than worrying about why I'm not getting to top speed in a few hours I will start to enjoy metronome work knowing it will happen in the fullness of time.
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post Jul 3 2009, 11:08 AM
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There's another great thing you can do - stretch!

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It could be very beneficial, especially if you are a little older.


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post Jul 4 2009, 02:58 AM
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Before you speed up the metronome, just be sure of understand every note and duration of them. And try to to figure out the way you can play,what you're working on, more easily. And don't be afraid, that is something totally normal. It's all a matter of time


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post Jul 5 2009, 03:32 AM
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I haven't attempted any light-speed Yngwie solos yet, but the metronome sure helps ! smile.gif


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post Jul 6 2009, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (Toroso @ Jul 2 2009, 02:02 PM) *
Tony I feel that way all the time. But I enjoy the guitar so I continue. I practice a little triplet exercise that Emir gave me almost everyday. I'm nowhere near the speed he can play it, but I'm faster than I was. I realize it will just take time and practice. Problem is us older guys are running out of time. biggrin.gif

Torso:
what triplet excercise do you practice daily, as I need something simple to incorporate into my schedule. Can you share what you use.

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post Jul 6 2009, 08:03 PM
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Tonny, that is universal experience. Progress isn't linear, it goes up down up down up up down....something like that smile.gif


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