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> Backing Tracks For Famous Song Lessons, Instructors can not give you mp3s for famous song lessons
Kristofer Dahl
post Jul 5 2009, 12:02 PM
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You have probably noticed we are starting to see more famous song lessons at GMC - this is something we are very proud to be able to offer you!

What enables us to offer these lessons is two licenses we are paying ("video-" and "audio streaming") .

However these licenses do not cover downloads (only streaming). If we were to offer you downloads we would have to charge for each GMC lesson separately to cover for the increased license costs.

To make a long story short: Instructors can unfortunately not give you mp3s of famous song backings.

Perhaps we can use this thread to come up with some creative ways of getting good recording results without using an mp3/download of the backings. Do we have any suggestions on how to achieve this?


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post Jul 5 2009, 12:25 PM
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How is the law when someone record the audio stream?


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post Jul 5 2009, 12:36 PM
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QUOTE (wrk @ Jul 5 2009, 01:25 PM) *
How is the law when someone record the audio stream?


That depends on what you do with the stream - if you use it for REC you will upload it to youtube. Presumably youtube has a whole bunch of more licenses than GMC - that is however not something we have the possibility of investigating...


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post Jul 5 2009, 01:09 PM
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.. or what about a GMC online DAW, very simplified of course. A flash tool to synchronize a backing track with uploaded audio or video files. A bit like youtube's annotation tool but for files. Could be fun for collabs as well, instructors don't need to do a final mix anymore ..

I know ... again a dream idea, but you asked for suggestions laugh.giflaugh.gif


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post Jul 5 2009, 01:44 PM
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post Jul 5 2009, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE (wrk @ Jul 5 2009, 02:09 PM) *
.. or what about a GMC online DAW, very simplified of course. A flash tool to synchronize a backing track with uploaded audio or video files. A bit like youtube's annotation tool but for files. Could be fun for collabs as well, instructors don't need to do a final mix anymore ..

I know ... again a dream idea, but you asked for suggestions laugh.giflaugh.gif

indabamusic.com has just such a tool for collaborations/sessions. A browser-based mixing table with quite some posibillities. I bet it's not as good as Cubase/Reaper/Sonar etc, but it's definetly useable.


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post Jul 5 2009, 02:31 PM
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QUOTE (wrk @ Jul 5 2009, 02:09 PM) *
.. or what about a GMC online DAW, very simplified of course. A flash tool to synchronize a backing track with uploaded audio or video files. A bit like youtube's annotation tool but for files. Could be fun for collabs as well, instructors don't need to do a final mix anymore ..

I know ... again a dream idea, but you asked for suggestions laugh.giflaugh.gif


Believe it or not but I actually have full blown specification of a GMC online multitrack recorder ready since two years ago... Unfortunately that is still a little above our budget.

However - just a single recording button in the video player shouldn't be impossible. And that would be pretty cool as well!


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post Jul 6 2009, 03:17 PM
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I like Andy's idea a lot ! Hope we can manage to have something like that in future. I would imagine it would require a lot of server space and bandwith to run something like that smile.gif


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post Jul 6 2009, 03:20 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jul 5 2009, 03:31 PM) *
Believe it or not but I actually have full blown specification of a GMC online multitrack recorder ready since two years ago... Unfortunately that is still a little above our budget.

However - just a single recording button in the video player shouldn't be impossible. And that would be pretty cool as well!


wow this kind of online DAW would be amazing actually! smile.gif I can only imagine its use for REC, Collaborations etc...


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post Jul 6 2009, 03:57 PM
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Online DAW, coupled with video chats would be a major breakthrough not only for GMC but for a whole music community on the web. This is definitely something worth investigating for the future.

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post Jul 6 2009, 11:50 PM
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QUOTE (Canis @ Jul 5 2009, 02:46 PM) *
indabamusic.com has just such a tool for collaborations/sessions. A browser-based mixing table with quite some posibillities. I bet it's not as good as Cubase/Reaper/Sonar etc, but it's definetly useable.

Thanks Canis, ... just had the chance to check this site out. It works pretty well to synchronize audio files. This tool is great to exchange ideas with others online. It does pretty much what i have had in mind and something similar would work with video files as well i guess.

To have something like this at GMC for collabs, REC and even virtual bands would be awesome. The flash front-end is not the biggest problem here, but to connect user accounts and stuff like this can be quite complex.



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post Jul 7 2009, 12:20 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Jul 6 2009, 04:57 PM) *
Online DAW, coupled with video chats would be a major breakthrough not only for GMC but for a whole music community on the web. This is definitely something worth investigating for the future.


wow this sounds really cool. Never had this idea but I really hope it will be possible in the future!!

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post Jul 7 2009, 06:33 AM
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Because we cannot give the mp3 backings for now perhaps it would be good to give more of a breakdown of the songs so the student could actually make their own backing track for their own use.


So far it has been like


Rhythm of song X

or Solo section of song X

etc.

What if we broke it down even further using the current instructors for collaboration. For example, someone puts up a tune, its Rhythm parts of that song, ....Bogdan could do a Bass lesson for that song, someone could do a drum lesson for that song etc.

This way it encourages the students to make their own backings and they get a feel for the mechanics of song construction in the process

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post Jul 7 2009, 09:25 AM
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QUOTE (Daniel Robinson @ Jul 7 2009, 07:33 AM) *
Because we cannot give the mp3 backings for now perhaps it would be good to give more of a breakdown of the songs so the student could actually make their own backing track for their own use.


So far it has been like


Rhythm of song X

or Solo section of song X

etc.

What if we broke it down even further using the current instructors for collaboration. For example, someone puts up a tune, its Rhythm parts of that song, ....Bogdan could do a Bass lesson for that song, someone could do a drum lesson for that song etc.

This way it encourages the students to make their own backings and they get a feel for the mechanics of song construction in the process

Daniel


I think this is a great idea


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post Jul 9 2009, 12:56 PM
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Hey there,
I´ve got a question. If I do a backing of a famous song, can I share it?
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post Jul 12 2009, 04:52 PM
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post Jul 12 2009, 11:28 PM
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post Jul 17 2009, 04:39 PM
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QUOTE (Tolek @ Jul 9 2009, 01:56 PM) *
Hey there,
I´ve got a question. If I do a backing of a famous song, can I share it?


Yes you can but the same applies here, you may not store it on GMC server. So the rule is to upload it somewhere else where it is allowed - and link to it from GMC!


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post Jul 17 2009, 04:41 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Jul 17 2009, 05:39 PM) *
Yes you can but the same applies here, you may not store it on GMC server. So the rule is to upload it somewhere else where it is allowed - and link to it from GMC!

Ok, thank you. smile.gif
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