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post Jul 14 2009, 10:41 PM
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When starting out everyone will say when you use distortion really you shouldn't use more than 4 strings or rather it's better to stick to power chords and similar type shapes when you're doing chord playing in metal. However there are a lot of bands that are using full chords with distortion and i think it's quite popular in black metal but i hear Opeth do it a lot in their songs.

When playing this on your own it can sound quite bad but i guess the production makes it sound fine. Is there any particular type of full chords that sound best this way or can any pretty much be used? Maybe even a lesson on this type of playing i don't think we have one yet?
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post Jul 14 2009, 11:08 PM
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https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/rhythm-gu...d-power-chords/

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QUOTE (steve25 @ Jul 14 2009, 11:41 PM) *
When starting out everyone will say when you use distortion really you shouldn't use more than 4 strings or rather it's better to stick to power chords and similar type shapes when you're doing chord playing in metal. However there are a lot of bands that are using full chords with distortion and i think it's quite popular in black metal but i hear Opeth do it a lot in their songs.

When playing this on your own it can sound quite bad but i guess the production makes it sound fine. Is there any particular type of full chords that sound best this way or can any pretty much be used? Maybe even a lesson on this type of playing i don't think we have one yet?


There's a lot of bands playing full/open chords with distortion, and I like the sound of it personally smile.gif
I use it a bit as well in some songs smile.gif
A lesson on this would be great, good idea Steve!!

So, who's up for the task? biggrin.gif
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post Jul 14 2009, 11:10 PM
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Good lesson but all those chords are still just 2 notes
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Hi Steve. smile.gif

There are few "rules" that you should follow in order to get nice sound
when playing chords with distortion.
First thing you need to be aware of is your tone,
there are many types of distortion but most likely
too much gain and low end will give you not so great results.
Also you can use some digital unit and get bad results,
healthy tube tone is safest way to go here
tho you can try with modelers as well.
So, not too much gain (talking about extreme amounts)
and careful with low end in EQ.

Now about notes.
As you know, 4th and 5th intervals are easy to mess with,
those are included in our power chords anyhow.
Problems are intervals like 3rds, 6ths etc.
If you play those intervals in lower ranges ( low E and A string around 5th fret per example)
it might sound not so great but if you try them in upper regions ( G string, 3rd fret and above, approx)
it will sound just fine.
So it's about shapes and voicing.
Per example, play G chord using first 2 frets with open G and B.
You'll hear something bad, that's most likely 3rd interval between low E and A strings, it's pretty low.
Now try G chord using "C" shape at 10th fret, it sounds a lot cooler.

Don't be afraid to play chords with distortion
but follow your ears and mess around with your gear/tone
be careful with voicings and you'll be fine. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jul 14 2009, 11:56 PM) *
Hi Steve. smile.gif

There are few "rules" that you should follow in order to get nice sound
when playing chords with distortion.
First thing you need to be aware of is your tone,
there are many types of distortion but most likely
too much gain and low end will give you not so great results.
Also you can use some digital unit and get bad results,
healthy tube tone is safest way to go here
tho you can try with modelers as well.
So, not too much gain (talking about extreme amounts)
and careful with low end in EQ.

Now about notes.
As you know, 4th and 5th intervals are easy to mess with,
those are included in our power chords anyhow.
Problems are intervals like 3rds, 6ths etc.
If you play those intervals in lower ranges ( low E and A string around 5th fret per example)
it might sound not so great but if you try them in upper regions ( G string, 3rd fret and above, approx)
it will sound just fine.
So it's about shapes and voicing.
Per example, play G chord using first 2 frets with open G and B.
You'll hear something bad, that's most likely 3rd interval between low E and A strings, it's pretty low.
Now try G chord using "C" shape at 10th fret, it sounds a lot cooler.

Don't be afraid to play chords with distortion
but follow your ears and mess around with your gear/tone
be careful with voicings and you'll be fine. smile.gif


+1 Bravo

I wanted to do a long post but you've said it all smile.gif


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also suspended 2 chords sounds cool (sus 4 has about the same structure as the power chord so i wont talk about it)

chords with 3 rd intervals will sound good on upper register too, as muris said


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You might want to intonate your guitar just a small amount sharp and tune your lower strings a little flat and your higher strings a little sharp.


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Thanks for your replies I'll mess about with chords on different strings as you say. Maybe I can upload an example of a tone that i'm using?
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Jul 15 2009, 12:56 AM) *
Hi Steve. smile.gif

There are few "rules" that you should follow in order to get nice sound
when playing chords with distortion.
First thing you need to be aware of is your tone,
there are many types of distortion but most likely
too much gain and low end will give you not so great results.
Also you can use some digital unit and get bad results,
healthy tube tone is safest way to go here
tho you can try with modelers as well.
So, not too much gain (talking about extreme amounts)
and careful with low end in EQ.

Now about notes.
As you know, 4th and 5th intervals are easy to mess with,
those are included in our power chords anyhow.
Problems are intervals like 3rds, 6ths etc.
If you play those intervals in lower ranges ( low E and A string around 5th fret per example)
it might sound not so great but if you try them in upper regions ( G string, 3rd fret and above, approx)
it will sound just fine.
So it's about shapes and voicing.
Per example, play G chord using first 2 frets with open G and B.
You'll hear something bad, that's most likely 3rd interval between low E and A strings, it's pretty low.
Now try G chord using "C" shape at 10th fret, it sounds a lot cooler.

Don't be afraid to play chords with distortion
but follow your ears and mess around with your gear/tone
be careful with voicings and you'll be fine. smile.gif


Very well said smile.gif
Thanks mate!
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post Jul 16 2009, 12:29 AM
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QUOTE (steve25 @ Jul 15 2009, 01:43 PM) *
Thanks for your replies I'll mess about with chords on different strings as you say. Maybe I can upload an example of a tone that i'm using?


Sure thing, that will give us more input. smile.gif

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+1 Bravo

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Petrucci uses 4 5 tones all the time. The trick is, as Muris said, which chords and intervals to use. Major and minor chords are ok. Small intervals doesn't sound so good, large do!


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Well said Muris!
Power chords are your best choice in Metal , so learn all inversions and doubling the octaves and you are all set wink.gif


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