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CharlieK
post Jul 19 2009, 07:33 PM
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Hi guys!

I've bought a Schecter Hellraiser C-1 BLK, its like 2 months old now. But it seems it cant handle the bending. Its getting out of tune after a couple of bends, so it would be nearly impossible to play a whole song while it sounds great.
I might exaggerates liiitttlleee, but it gets out of tune however.

Could it have something to do with the intonation? Because i must intone my guitar, i made a thread earlier about i can't play the lower frets (while playing "crazy solos") because then its sounds a little bit out of tune too. but i don't know really.

Is it possible to fix if i go to the guitar shop and let them fix of something?

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post Jul 19 2009, 07:37 PM
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A good idea would to go to a guitar tech and tell him the problem and see if he can fix


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post Jul 19 2009, 09:30 PM
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does it have a floyde rose?? im looking into getting one as well
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post Jul 19 2009, 10:15 PM
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Maybe the tuning pegs are faulty?

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post Jul 20 2009, 12:03 PM
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If it's out of tune on different strings at different places on the neck I'd suggest taking it to a Tech for a check up, it sounds as though i) The intonation is out and ii) that the neck profile/truss rod needs adjusting.
I'm assuming that yours is the one without a Floyd Rose on it?
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post Jul 20 2009, 04:32 PM
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I guess I know what's your problem. It happens to me all the time, on every guitar I try, expensive or cheap one. Sometimes it can cause problems, but sometimes it's barely heardable. The problem is in the nut, strings get stuck in it, and when you bend you pull the string to the regular position. So my advice is: Tune the string to pitch, bend it, tune it again, bend it, tune it again, and repeat that until your string doesn't go out of tune after bending. Do that with each string, and your guitar will stay in tune much longer than usual!


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post Jul 20 2009, 05:49 PM
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i agree with ivan, the nut is what makes your guitar go nuts smile.gif


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post Jul 20 2009, 05:59 PM
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QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Jul 20 2009, 05:49 PM) *
i agree with ivan, the nut is what makes your guitar go nuts smile.gif

I'm starting to think that Ivan could be right as well!!! I had completely overlooked the Nut as a possible problem!!
If you scrape some lead from a Pencil into the string slots it'll help! The graphite acts as a lubricant in the string slots and should help the string not to get caught in the Nut!
Try this before taking it to a Tech and being charged for it!!
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post Jul 20 2009, 06:51 PM
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If it is a new guitar, I would take it back to the shop and ask them to fix it smile.gif


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post Jul 20 2009, 08:12 PM
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QUOTE (CharlieK @ Jul 19 2009, 08:33 PM) *
Could it have something to do with the intonation?

Not likely. Even if it's not or badly intonated it should stay the way you tuned it, even if it's out of tune. Shouldn't change.

I can think of a few reasons.

- Worn strings
- Brand new strings
- Too tight a nut that will squeeze the strings tight
- Tuners that will slip or turn cause of the tension. (locking tuners huh, sure you locked them? not neccessary though)


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post Jul 27 2009, 04:24 PM
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I would have to agree with the NUT! graphite from the lead in a pencil or Graph-tech I think it is called from the nearest guitar shop should help. Also there is the hip shot" trem setter", and the "armed Adjuster". THese help with the stability issues with tremolo systems. Worth a look!
http://joe.emenaker.com/TremStabilizers/Tremsetter.html



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post Jul 27 2009, 11:55 PM
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this is a strings problem, it looks like that!


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post Jul 27 2009, 11:55 PM
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I know this is probably a dumb question but.. did you swap the strings from the time you got the guitar?


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post Jul 28 2009, 06:23 AM
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Ivan did a very nice question!. Maybe the strings are quite old and the guitar needs a strings change. Old strings go out of tune

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