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Pedja Simovic
post Aug 2 2009, 10:08 AM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Aug 2 2009, 10:37 AM) *
Thats absolutely true Pedja !
But I will also add a fourth one....
I dont really know what it's called, but i call it "repetetive pattern"....
If You take a pattern and begin to play it on the first chord, and then just change the appropiate notes for the coming chords, You get a very nice effect... especially if You do it FAST (like the late Michael Brecker..... ) smile.gif smile.gif smile.gif

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Staffay this method is called voice leading. It us used in all 3 methods I mentioned above. I love Michael Breckers music, he is my favorite all time Jazz musician, improviser and composer. I know exactly what you mean and Michael was master at that. Glad to know you listen to his music!

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QUOTE (smolgaard @ Aug 2 2009, 10:51 AM) *
Thanks a lot for everything.
But if you have a song there is in the key of Am, then you can play pure Am pentatonic over it, or is that just sonething i think ?

And why cant you do that with modes ? or major scales ?


Thats true Stefan!
Key of A minor , you can play A minor pentatonic over A minor chord smile.gif But you cant simply play A minor pentatonic over anything thats in key of A minor! For example, lets say you have B diminished tried or B min7b5. That chord is on the II scale degree of A natural minor. So if that chord is in the background and you play on top of it just A minor pentatonic it will not sound good. The reason for this is relationship between melody (notes you play) and harmony (chords in the background).

Regarding your second question, you can/could/should use pentatonic scales over modes or major scales. Secret lies in knowing how to apply specific scale over specific mode.

As some people said, concept of CHORD TONES is very important, but keep in mind this is only one of the tools. You can have scale passing notes, chromatic approach and many more approach patterns.

Hope that helps!


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post Aug 2 2009, 10:14 AM
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..... so what we ending up with here is that every note is really allowed, and we guitarists are lucky since we can play a lot of "in-betweens" with bending etc. As long as You play with a lot of confidence and timing, and then (sometimes) lands on the "right" note, it will sound good.... just ask EVH and Holdsworth...... :-)

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post Aug 2 2009, 10:22 AM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Aug 2 2009, 11:14 AM) *
..... so what we ending up with here is that every note is really allowed, and we guitarists are lucky since we can play a lot of "in-betweens" with bending etc. As long as You play with a lot of confidence and timing, and then (sometimes) lands on the "right" note, it will sound good.... just ask EVH and Holdsworth...... :-)

//Staffay


This can be very true statement, depending on style of music of course, but I agree smile.gif


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post Aug 2 2009, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE (Pedja Simovic @ Aug 2 2009, 11:22 AM) *
This can be very true statement, depending on style of music of course, but I agree smile.gif


It was meant as a joke.. smile.gif Of course in certain styles there are some limits, but basically its true.
One of my teachers long ago used to say: "Learn all the possible scales you can, then just forget them...."

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post Aug 2 2009, 10:34 AM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Aug 2 2009, 11:26 AM) *
It was meant as a joke.. smile.gif Of course in certain styles there are some limits, but basically its true.
One of my teachers long ago used to say: "Learn all the possible scales you can, then just forget them...."

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That was something that Louis Armstrong said also smile.gif


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