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Ivan Mihaljevic
post Aug 10 2009, 09:36 AM
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Hello!

As some of you may know, I've been recording my new album for the past 3 weeks and I finished it. I was hoping to do a GMC lesson before going on a vacation, but as you can imagine, after 3 weeks of doing nothing else, but recording an album, there was a whole lot of stuff I needed to do that couldn't wait any longer.
I'm going on a vacation now and I'll be back in 10 days with some fresh new ideas for lessons.

Anyway, I have learned a lot with this album recording and wanted to share some of my experiences with you!

The biggest difference between this album recording and the ones I've done in the past is that this time I wanted to do everything in a short period of time with no interruptions. This proved to be a great method because I was focused on the music 150% and was able to feel the music and what the music asks me to do in terms of interpretation and phrasing.
When you're doing other stuff parallel to the album recording, a part of your mind is still concentrated on other stuff and you can hardly get this deeply connected with the music you're recording.

Before going into a recording session, make sure you are well prepared - in shape technically and that you know your parts. Also make sure the instruments you're using are in a perfect working condition - restrung with a fresh set of strings and well setup in terms of intonation and as little fret buzz as possible. I had the frets changed on my black Music Man prior to this recording.

When getting a guitar sound, make sure you're hearing exactly the sound you want out of your amp. If you don't get the sound you want out of your amp, it will be extremely hard to get the sound you want in the mix.
Try using more than one microphone on your amp as it's easier to catch the whole frequency range from the amp that way than using just one mic. Try using 2 mics for close miking - one closer to the center of the speaker (this one will give you more treble) and one closer to the edge (this will give you more bass) and then you can mix between the 2.
Make sure those 2 mics are on absolutely the same distance from the speaker to get them in phase. Then try experimenting with using a third mic somewhere in the room and see what you can get in different positions.
I'd recommend using 2 dynamic mics (like SM57) for the close-up miking and a condenser mic for the room mic as a starting point, but feel free to experiment with as many different mics you can think of.
The microphones I was using are:
  • Sennheiser e906 on the center of the speaker
  • Shure SM58 with the grille off on the edge of the speaker (I tried an SM57 which sounded very similar, but this one gave me a bit nicer sound)
  • Audio Technica AT4040 as the room mic in the back of the amp

For some more thoughts on guitar miking, check this tutorial - http://www.imperialmastering.com/guitartonevid/

I was double tracking all of the rhythm guitars and panning them hard left and hard right. I was using the black guitar on one side and the white one on the other. They're the same guitar model, but every guitar sounds just a little bit different from the other (I have never come across 2 guitars that sound absolutely identical!). This way I got a broader stereo image then if I was using the same guitar on both sides.

That's all for now! See you again in about 10 days.
If you missed any of the videos from my album recording, you can still see all of them at du-podcast.blogspot.com


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post Aug 10 2009, 10:14 AM
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Great tips there Mihal, I really enjoyed watching your podcast it was great, I think this new album will be Awesome!!!, your vocals sounded spot on better than Sandcastle, i'm so looking forward to this. I will be first inline to buy when it comes out. Have a great holiday i look forward to some more lessons from you when you get back.


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post Aug 10 2009, 11:52 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Mihaljevic @ Aug 10 2009, 10:36 AM) *
When getting a guitar sound, make sure you're hearing exactly the sound you want out of your amp. If you don't get the sound you want out of your amp, it will be extremely hard to get the sound you want in the mix.

Thanks for the update! smile.gif
One tip is to reamp the guitar, such a box doesn't cost a fortune and you can easily re-record the amp (without playing).
http://www.thomann.de/se/radial_engineerin...eamping_kit.htm

I'm curious about how you recorded the drums, a plugin or real drums?


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post Aug 10 2009, 11:57 AM
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Interesting tips.

I will try to put them into practice when recording my demo tracks.


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post Aug 10 2009, 12:00 PM
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They were real drums check out the first 2 podcasts.

http://du-podcast.blogspot.com/2009/07/day-1-drums.html

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post Aug 10 2009, 12:06 PM
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QUOTE (Bondy @ Aug 10 2009, 01:00 PM) *
They were real drums check out the first 2 podcasts.

http://du-podcast.blogspot.com/2009/07/day-1-drums.html

Cool, thanks!
Too bad that doesn't support my case. laugh.gif Debating with our drummer about using EZdrums instead to avoid a lot of hassle with mikes and a huge soundcard but he wants to record his playing... won't show him this thread then laugh.gif


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post Aug 10 2009, 01:02 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Aug 10 2009, 12:06 PM) *
Cool, thanks!
Too bad that doesn't support my case. laugh.gif Debating with our drummer about using EZdrums instead to avoid a lot of hassle with mikes and a huge soundcard but he wants to record his playing... won't show him this thread then laugh.gif



laugh.gif probably won't help your case at all laugh.gif laugh.gif laugh.gif


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post Aug 10 2009, 01:04 PM
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post Aug 10 2009, 02:59 PM
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QUOTE (MickeM @ Aug 10 2009, 12:52 PM) *
Thanks for the update! smile.gif
One tip is to reamp the guitar, such a box doesn't cost a fortune and you can easily re-record the amp (without playing).
http://www.thomann.de/se/radial_engineerin...eamping_kit.htm

I'm curious about how you recorded the drums, a plugin or real drums?


I know about the reamping techniques, but why not just record your guitar sound right the first time? smile.gif
If you reamp it, the signal has to go through an additional D/A - A/D conversion which will definitely affect the sound a little bit.

As far as the drums go, I've got an amazing drummer that's playing these songs in my live band, so it would have been a shame not to record him playing these songs!


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post Aug 10 2009, 03:50 PM
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Great story Ivan and useful tips. I recorded 4 signals at the same time. One of them was DI signal so I could mix some software amp sounds. I hope your album will sound great.


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post Aug 10 2009, 05:19 PM
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I find a good way of getting a better spectral spread from the amp is to place a mic in the middle between the cone and the outter rim of the speaker, angled inwards towards the cone, usually a 57. High frequencies are emitted from the centre of the speaker whilst bass are emitted from the outer edge, so it gives you a good cross-section of the speakers colouration. (You can hear this with directional speakers, there is a sharp trebble stab that comes from the centre of the cone, that you can hear if you just stand right infront of the speaker, which dies off very quickly as you walk to the left/right).

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post Aug 10 2009, 05:26 PM
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Very useful tips !
Recently we are in studio with my band as well and we are also using different mics in different position.
This gives us a very powerful sound. It's worth to try!


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