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post Aug 19 2009, 05:14 PM
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Hey bro, here is my take, hope you like it, well for this one I didn't make any calculations, just tried to fully compose it by only improvizing.

We'll hope you like it, I had some peaks in dry guitar recording but I am sure it wont matter a lot when you add effects...

Effects are as usual some large concert reverb, and stereo delay with %27 feedback 1/1 note delay at right and 1/2 at left (or vice versa) I applied some compressor on my bt version, you are free to do anyting, you are the boss biggrin.gif


If there are some major mistakes I've made please let me know so that I can redo it...

Cheers smile.gif

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post Aug 19 2009, 06:01 PM
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QUOTE (enforcer @ Aug 19 2009, 05:14 PM) *
Hey bro, here is my take, hope you like it, well for this one I didn't make any calculations, just tried to fully compose it by only improvizing.

We'll hope you like it, I had some peaks in dry guitar recording but I am sure it wont matter a lot when you add effects...

Effects are as usual some large concert reverb, and stereo delay with %27 feedback 1/1 note delay at right and 1/2 at left (or vice versa) I applied some compressor on my bt version, you are free to do anyting, you are the boss biggrin.gif


If there are some major mistakes I've made please let me know so that I can redo it...

Cheers smile.gif

Great ideas but some wrong scales smile.gif When I first play E/G# your notes are wrong, go for E7 arpeggio here. Right after that I have A chord and you're playing diminished, that's also wrong. Another wrong one is where I have F diminished 7. Go for diminished notes over F diminished 7 - F, G#, B and D. Then I resolve on F#sus4 and F#. That should be pure F# Phrygian Dominant. You played a wrong scale there. The last one is E dim7 or G dim7 (call it however you like) play E, G, A#, C#. Those are correct notes. The last F# is again F# Phrygian Dominant and resolve back to Bm. The resolution was ok. Everything in between was good, just correct these and it will be fine.

Also be careful how to end faster phrases, you need to land safely smile.gif


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post Aug 19 2009, 06:11 PM
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I finished my version today. will be recording it as soon as I can. hopefully tomorrow. Got a bit excited so couldn't hold on posting it. smile.gif

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post Aug 19 2009, 06:31 PM
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QUOTE (maharzan @ Aug 19 2009, 06:11 PM) *
I finished my version today. will be recording it as soon as I can. hopefully tomorrow. Got a bit excited so couldn't hold on posting it. smile.gif

Looking forward to it smile.gif


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post Aug 19 2009, 11:23 PM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Aug 19 2009, 08:01 PM) *
Great ideas but some wrong scales smile.gif When I first play E/G# your notes are wrong, go for E7 arpeggio here. Right after that I have A chord and you're playing diminished, that's also wrong. Another wrong one is where I have F diminished 7. Go for diminished notes over F diminished 7 - F, G#, B and D. Then I resolve on F#sus4 and F#. That should be pure F# Phrygian Dominant. You played a wrong scale there. The last one is E dim7 or G dim7 (call it however you like) play E, G, A#, C#. Those are correct notes. The last F# is again F# Phrygian Dominant and resolve back to Bm. The resolution was ok. Everything in between was good, just correct these and it will be fine.

Also be careful how to end faster phrases, you need to land safely smile.gif



Ok I redid everything, I hope I corrected my mistakes... Please help! biggrin.gif


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post Aug 20 2009, 04:01 AM
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QUOTE (enforcer @ Aug 19 2009, 11:23 PM) *
Ok I redid everything, I hope I corrected my mistakes... Please help! biggrin.gif

Bravo smile.gif I hope you found my previous post of some help. This now sounds all correct. Thanks smile.gif

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and I hope you can also hear it if you compare with the previous one

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post Aug 20 2009, 04:13 AM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Aug 20 2009, 06:01 AM) *
Bravo smile.gif I hope you found my previous post of some help. This now sounds all correct. Thanks smile.gif

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and I hope you can also hear it if you compare with the previous one


Yeah I can hear the difference to tell the truth, and I am not talking about the obvious mistakes but to my ear it seemed just different (like a different taste) not "wrong" (thats when I'm talking about improvising over the bt surely) but you are far more experienced on this and I take your word as canon ofc, maybe I need more time to make distinction of two I don't know, biggrin.gif Glad you helped to straighten things up bro!

edit: typo and some addendum biggrin.gif

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Spoiler:


Vigier G.V Wood HH
American Stratocaster Maple Standart with X2N bridge pickups
Samwick Artist custom modified Baswood Lespaul with S.Duncan JB and N56 pickups
Self made Fretless Strat type made of Rosewood/Maple with self wound Neck and Ibanez V8 Bridge Pickups
Floor Pod 2.0 Amp Simulation System
Pod Xt Pro Rack Amp Simulation System
Digitech TSR 12 Rack Effect and Studio Reverb
Behringer Composer Rack Compressor Expander
Morley Bad Horsie Wah Pedal
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post Aug 20 2009, 12:41 PM
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QUOTE (enforcer @ Aug 20 2009, 04:13 AM) *
Yeah I can hear the difference to tell the truth, and I am not talking about the obvious mistakes but to my ear it seemed just different (like a different taste) not "wrong" (thats when I'm talking about improvising over the bt surely) but you are far more experienced on this and I take your word as canon ofc, maybe I need more time to make distinction of two I don't know, biggrin.gif Glad you helped to straighten things up bro!

edit: typo and some addendum biggrin.gif

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I agree that something can sound right to you but not to me. We all have different taste and ear. In this style of music "neoclassical" there are some kind of unwriten rules for the scale approach. That's why I wanted to point you that way. Your take now sounds neoclassical for sure smile.gif


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post Aug 20 2009, 12:43 PM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Aug 20 2009, 02:41 PM) *
I agree that something can sound right to you but not to me. We all have different taste and ear. In this style of music "neoclassical" there are some kind of unwriten rules for the scale approach. That's why I wanted to point you that way. Your take now sounds neoclassical for sure smile.gif


hehe thanks biggrin.gif


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Vigier G.V Wood HH
American Stratocaster Maple Standart with X2N bridge pickups
Samwick Artist custom modified Baswood Lespaul with S.Duncan JB and N56 pickups
Self made Fretless Strat type made of Rosewood/Maple with self wound Neck and Ibanez V8 Bridge Pickups
Floor Pod 2.0 Amp Simulation System
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Digitech TSR 12 Rack Effect and Studio Reverb
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post Aug 20 2009, 02:08 PM
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YaY!! The second collaboration of all!!

I have no idea about neoclassical as such.. I lack a LOT of knowledge when it comes to theory. Here is what I have come up with. Any feedback is definitely helpful!

Hopefully you liked it. Thanks!

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QUOTE (maharzan @ Aug 20 2009, 02:08 PM) *
YaY!! The second collaboration of all!!

I have no idea about neoclassical as such.. I lack a LOT of knowledge when it comes to theory. Here is what I have come up with. Any feedback is definitely helpful!

Hopefully you liked it. Thanks!

Very nice. That's it smile.gif Now export the solo guitar and make sure that it starts from the same point as this track with the backing. Make the track mono and make sure that you don't have any delay/reverb. Leave just dry distortion. If you already recorded with effects then send it like that or if you have time re-record it dry.

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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Aug 20 2009, 02:43 PM) *
Very nice. That's it smile.gif Now export the solo guitar and make sure that it starts from the same point as this track with the backing. Make the track mono and make sure that you don't have any delay/reverb. Leave just dry distortion. If you already recorded with effects then send it like that or if you have time re-record it dry.

Good work


Wow.. Thanks Emir.. I am flattered! smile.gif

I recorded in Pro Tools using Guitar Rig 3. So I guess, it does have the dry signal as well. Will post that too (with no backing I guess?)

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QUOTE (maharzan @ Aug 20 2009, 04:09 PM) *
Wow.. Thanks Emir.. I am flattered! smile.gif

I recorded in Pro Tools using Guitar Rig 3. So I guess, it does have the dry signal as well. Will post that too (with no backing I guess?)

Thanks again!

Good smile.gif Just export dry distortion and that's fine.


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Emir, I have uploaded it on the above post to make things easier.

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QUOTE (maharzan @ Aug 20 2009, 04:36 PM) *
Emir, I have uploaded it on the above post to make things easier.

Thanks.

Ok, got it smile.gif Thanks


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Here is my take

If you find some errors please let me know.....

I uploaded the GP file of the solo aswell so you can see what i am playing


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I've never done any collabs or jams before, and would really like to try this one smile.gif I'll have a rough take tomorrow (or even today).
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QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Aug 22 2009, 12:30 PM) *
I've never done any collabs or jams before, and would really like to try this one smile.gif I'll have a rough take tomorrow (or even today).

Ok I added you on the list. Just don't break the deadline smile.gif

QUOTE (superize @ Aug 21 2009, 10:08 PM) *
Here is my take

If you find some errors please let me know.....

I uploaded the GP file of the solo aswell so you can see what i am playing

I was really enjoying the whole thing but the last diminished scale was a shock smile.gif You moved the whole thing for 1 or 2 frets, not sure now smile.gif

That's E dim7 or G dim 7. You need these notes: E, G, A# and C#. Just fix that and the rest is all good.


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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Aug 22 2009, 03:48 PM) *
Ok I added you on the list. Just don't break the deadline smile.gif


I was really enjoying the whole thing but the last diminished scale was a shock smile.gif You moved the whole thing for 1 or 2 frets, not sure now smile.gif

That's E dim7 or G dim 7. You need these notes: E, G, A# and C#. Just fix that and the rest is all good.


Ok Emir i have updated th Gp file.... Hope i understood you corectly
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QUOTE (superize @ Aug 22 2009, 03:01 PM) *
Ok Emir i have updated th Gp file.... Hope i understood you corectly

In the bar 24 you started 20 and 17 but you need 21 and 18. Follow that pattern. E, G, A# and C#



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