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post Aug 24 2009, 09:57 AM
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QUOTE (Sergio Dorado @ Aug 24 2009, 09:42 AM) *
Hi Emir. Here is my take. I´ve put two different tracks for the solo (mono and stereo) because when I´ve exported to mono appears a little points of noise in the lows ( I don´t know why). The stereo version sounds more clear to me, may be you can converted it if you think it´s necessary. Thanks.
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Thanks Sergio. Great ideas. The mono track could clip because when you record it stereo and export as mono, two channels becomes one and that one is much louder. If you record mono from the start then you won't have any trouble but don't worry now I will use this one smile.gif


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post Aug 24 2009, 10:00 AM
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Just go ahead and tell me where they are bad, maybe I can even try to improve vibrato on a new take smile.gif


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post Aug 24 2009, 10:24 AM
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QUOTE (Rated Htr @ Aug 24 2009, 10:00 AM) *
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Just go ahead and tell me where they are bad, maybe I can even try to improve vibrato on a new take smile.gif

  • On 0:47 you're playing Bb note over G major chord. That's minor 3rd but we need maj 3rd as the chord is G major. Move that note to B one fret up.
  • Now the very last four notes before the ending (over the last F# chord). You played F#, G, A and resolved on B.
    Play F#, G#, A#, B

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    F#, G, A#, B

Also you can tighten up some faster phrases smile.gif


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post Aug 24 2009, 11:04 AM
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Ok, gonna work on that when I get back home, thanks smile.gif


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post Aug 24 2009, 11:36 AM
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QUOTE (Rated Htr @ Aug 24 2009, 11:04 AM) *
Ok, gonna work on that when I get back home, thanks smile.gif

No problem man smile.gif


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post Aug 24 2009, 01:35 PM
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Ok, I corrected those problems, tried to improve the vibrato and, did a different approach, more legato, see if you like it better smile.gif



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post Aug 24 2009, 02:44 PM
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Thanks Emir and Jafo smile.gif

I did not mean that you counted my wrong notes. But it did kind of sound like you meant every bar had problems and that maybe I did not refer to the scales at all. And I just tried to get by improvising.

I did mine as Jafo said he did his. A bar at a time and then put two together and then four and so on. There has to be many bars that are within scale. (I may have chose the wrong notes from the scale as this was confusing to me). The main reason I sound so discouraged is not because my solo was off so much but because my ear told me it was pretty good, especially part one. It is hard to be a good musician if you don’t have an ear for it. I guess I am scared of the truth.

Do I want you to correct my tabs? Sure, that would be an honor. However, if you do say every bar was off then I would say no, since my take would become your take. More so, I would not want to take up too much of your time. And correcting the tab would be time consuming. But fell free to do so. biggrin.gif I will redo my take within 24 hours after you correct the tabs.

Thanks again!!!!!

I guess this is embarrassing, more so than anything else. Thinking I was doing great when I was not. dry.gif


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post Aug 24 2009, 03:12 PM
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QUOTE (leedbreak @ Aug 24 2009, 02:44 PM) *
Do I want you to correct my tabs? Sure, that would be an honor. However, if you do say every bar was off then I would say no, since my take would become your take. More so, I would not want to take up too much of your time. And correcting the tab would be time consuming. But fell free to do so. biggrin.gif I will redo my take within 24 hours after you correct the tabs.

Ok I'll try to do it today. I didn't say every bar was wrong. Some are ok and some not. When I send you the corrected GP file you will probably notice that. Agan I said I will not change the structure, just shift wrong notes a fret up or down to match the scale.


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post Aug 24 2009, 03:43 PM
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Here's mine Emir.
Unfortunately I have no more time to spend!
I know there's some timing issues!!
And I still managed to confuse myself in the Diminished part!!!
I had fun and I did learn something though, so not all was lost!!!
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Also, it's my first go at playing this style as well!!!
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post Aug 24 2009, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Aug 24 2009, 03:43 PM) *
Here's mine Emir.
Unfortunately I have no more time to spend!
I know there's some timing issues!!
And I still managed to confuse myself in the Diminished part!!!
I had fun and I did learn something though, so not all was lost!!!
biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
Also, it's my first go at playing this style as well!!!
[attachment=17343:Emir_SNC_wbt.mp3]
[attachment=17344:Emir_SNC_nobt.mp3]

Ok man thanks for the take smile.gif

QUOTE (Rated Htr @ Aug 24 2009, 01:35 PM) *
Ok, I corrected those problems, tried to improve the vibrato and, did a different approach, more legato, see if you like it better smile.gif

Yes, that's it smile.gif


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I'm recording my take today, so you'll get it later tonight smile.gif
Unfortunately I haven't been able to start untill now, so I'll just have to do my best and try to impress you smile.gif

Even though I know very little about neoclassical playing biggrin.gif
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I too will have something recorded a posted if not tonight certainly tomorrow.

Prob won't be any time to improve it tho


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post Aug 24 2009, 06:04 PM
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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Aug 24 2009, 10:40 AM) *
There are a couple of wrong notes in there but overall is acceptable take. Do you have GP file of this so I can fix it for you? If not then leave it and I will point to those in my comments. You need stronger gain for this sound. You're nearly losing sustain because your drive is very light.


Hi,

i attached the gp file i made. Its not exactly what i am playing (notes are the same, but i played a different timing in the end).

I turne the gain to 5 of 10 for the take, maybe i will try something different.

Attached File  collab_twist_2.gp5 ( 4.77K ) Number of downloads: 39


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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Aug 24 2009, 09:12 AM) *
Ok I'll try to do it today. I didn't say every bar was wrong. Some are ok and some not. When I send you the corrected GP file you will probably notice that. Agan I said I will not change the structure, just shift wrong notes a fret up or down to match the scale.


Thanks Emir,

I am sure I speak for many that your help is gone way beyond what is expected of a collaboration leader and even an instructor. Many thanks for that and your expertise as well. smile.gif

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QUOTE (audiopaal @ Aug 24 2009, 04:41 PM) *
I'm recording my take today, so you'll get it later tonight smile.gif
Unfortunately I haven't been able to start untill now, so I'll just have to do my best and try to impress you smile.gif

Even though I know very little about neoclassical playing biggrin.gif

That's ok. This style is all about 3 scales, not that hard

QUOTE (Crazyfret @ Aug 24 2009, 04:59 PM) *
I too will have something recorded a posted if not tonight certainly tomorrow.

Prob won't be any time to improve it tho

Ok Crazyfret, waiting for it smile.gif


QUOTE (twist @ Aug 24 2009, 06:04 PM) *
Hi,

i attached the gp file i made. Its not exactly what i am playing (notes are the same, but i played a different timing in the end).

I turne the gain to 5 of 10 for the take, maybe i will try something different.

Attached File  collab_twist_2.gp5 ( 4.77K ) Number of downloads: 39

Ok I'll try to do it today. Cheers smile.gif

QUOTE (leedbreak @ Aug 24 2009, 06:06 PM) *
Thanks Emir,

I am sure I speak for many that your help is gone way beyond what is expected of a collaboration leader and even an instructor. Many thanks for that and your expertise as well. smile.gif

Cheers man, I think the point of these collaborations is to play, have fun, help each other and learn smile.gif I will have a look at your GP file today.


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post Aug 24 2009, 06:18 PM
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Here's my draft take. I'm not uploading version without BT because I'm going to rerecord it anyway. I just wanted to have some feedback before doing it smile.gif (please bear in mind that it's the first complete solo I've ever written rolleyes.gif ). I'm certainly going to redo the Gdim part near the end.

Also, what's the precise deadline?

Gosh, is my timing really THAT bad?

Thanks in advance smile.gif
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QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Aug 24 2009, 06:18 PM) *
Here's my draft take. I'm not uploading version without BT because I'm going to rerecord it anyway. I just wanted to have some feedback before doing it smile.gif (please bear in mind that it's the first complete solo I've ever written rolleyes.gif ). I'm certainly going to redo the Gdim part near the end.

Also, what's the precise deadline?

Gosh, is my timing really THAT bad?

Thanks in advance smile.gif

This all sounds ok and pretty well controlled. G dim part before the end was ok. The problem is when I go for the G major chord earlier, you're playing G minor 3rd notes (Bb). We need major 3rd ( B note ) as the chord is G major. Also just before the end part when you resolve back to Bm. You played A and B notes (resolution on B ). We need A# and B because on that A# you're still in the F# chord and A# will your major 3rd note which will work over F# chord. I hope you can understand. Almost the same thing I told to "Rated Htr".

Nice playing

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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Aug 24 2009, 07:11 PM) *
That's ok. This style is all about 3 scales, not that hard


Well... Erm... Since I do not know these three scales it's not that easy either laugh.gif

Well, I just finsihed recording my take, so hopefully you find some good stuff in there somewhere smile.gif
It's not as clean as I'd like it to be, due to time limitations.
I didn't get to practice it more than a few times before I recorded it,
but I actually think I did fairly well anyway smile.gif

Here it goes..

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Attached File  neo_wbt.mp3 ( 2.67MB ) Number of downloads: 185

Without Backing: Attached File  neo_nobt.mp3 ( 2.67MB ) Number of downloads: 88

Without Backing and Delay: Attached File  neo_nobt__Without_Delay_.mp3 ( 2.67MB ) Number of downloads: 165
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QUOTE (audiopaal @ Aug 24 2009, 06:43 PM) *
Well... Erm... Since I do not know these three scales it's not that easy either laugh.gif

Well, I just finsihed recording my take, so hopefully you find some good stuff in there somewhere smile.gif
It's not as clean as I'd like it to be, due to time limitations.
I didn't get to practice it more than a few times before I recorded it,
but I actually think I did fairly well anyway smile.gif


Cheers man. There are some minor things but nothing serious. Do you want to keep this clean sound or shall I stick some drive to it? smile.gif


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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Aug 24 2009, 08:43 PM) *
Cheers man. There are some minor things but nothing serious. Do you want to keep this clean sound or shall I stick some drive to it? smile.gif

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