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post Aug 27 2009, 12:47 PM
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I pretty much started playing guitar by finding a song that i really liked then getting the tab for it. I've pretty much only done that since last december.

After readying lots around this awesome website I think i need to have more structure in my "play" time than just getting a random song i like and learning it.

The only problem is, i dont really know what I should be learning first.

Can anyone help with this?

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post Aug 27 2009, 01:16 PM
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There's nothing wrong while learning some songs you like. Some people are doing the opposite, learning random licks, riffs, exercises and so on, and they can't play a whole song from the beginning to the end.
You can do some kind of schedule for your practice. Learn the five pentatonic boxes, start to improvise over some blues backing track using them. Learn also new chords and find new voicings by yourself.
You can incorporate some alternate picking exercise in your routine, there are a lot of lessons here about this topic. Then you can add some advanced stuff like legato, economy, sweep, etc..
Check also Andrew's theory board, you can find a lot info there.


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post Aug 27 2009, 01:57 PM
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I think should keep some time from your practice to learn songs, since you like that. Let's say 30% of your practice. It's going to help keep you motivated.

I think you can start by working on pentatonic workshop. It will teach about timing and pentatonic scales. Things you do not necessarily understand from learning songs:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...ming-exercises/
Check also about muting. This is something easy to miss when learning only from songs:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/misc-less...g-101-tutorial/

And for sure, the theory board

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post Aug 27 2009, 04:34 PM
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There's no such thing as a wrong foot to start on. By realizing something wasn't 100% right, you're only proven that your feet are ready to walk in badass boots on the path of learning tongue.gif

Time to learn some theory. Don't forget about learning the songs you like, though! If you only learn theory, there's a change you get bored and loose that "spark" that keeps you craving more wink.gif

Also, analyse the songs you learn! Look for patterns in the songs to see if you notice any similarities in what makes a good solo, or an epic riff! For example if you find two solos that has this awesome, climactic moment (example: Emir's "Climax in a Solo" lesson), then there's a chance they're doing something similar. If you keep that in the back of your head, the next time you find such a solo (or make your own), you're not taken by such a surprise when you look at the tabs, since you know some basic stuff of what's going on ^^
This doesen't only apply to solos, of course wink.gif


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post Aug 27 2009, 11:43 PM
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Check out this lesson plan:
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/guitar_fo...st&p=312457

it may not be exactly what you're looking for, but it will give you an idea how to structure your own sessions. Let me know if I can help with it further.

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post Aug 28 2009, 07:29 AM
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Please check out my reply to "twist" here

I usually write lengthy threads on this subject, hopefully it should give you some insight into structure and ideas behind how to practice!


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post Aug 28 2009, 08:22 AM
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I think to play lots of songs is a good approach .. if done right. Concentrate on parts you have difficulties with, build exercises out of these parts, try to find a corresponding lesson to practice a certain technic. A common mistake is to play songs over and over again and to rush through difficult parts.

In my opinion songs give you a good and dynamic structure for your practice routine. Keeps practicing interesting and you know for what you do certain exercises.




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post Aug 28 2009, 08:32 AM
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QUOTE (wrk @ Aug 28 2009, 09:22 AM) *
I think to play lots of songs is a good approach .. if done right. Concentrate on parts you have difficulties with, build exercises out of these parts, try to find a corresponding lesson to practice a certain technic. A common mistake is to play songs over and over again and to rush through difficult parts.

In my opinion songs give you a good and dynamic structure for your practice routine. Keeps practicing interesting and you know for what you do certain exercises.


That's very true. Usually the tricky part of a song is very small.
It is much more efficient to repeat a 30 second part 20 times than a 6 minute song 4 times. Still you would spend the same amount of time in each ! wink.gif


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post Aug 28 2009, 09:45 AM
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QUOTE (Gus @ Aug 28 2009, 09:32 AM) *
That's very true. Usually the tricky part of a song is very small.
It is much more efficient to repeat a 30 second part 20 times than a 6 minute song 4 times. Still you would spend the same amount of time in each ! wink.gif

Yeah, .. 30 seconds is maybe to long already, one bar or even 1/2 a bar. I often cut tricky parts out and replace them for a while with something easier to be able to play the song. In the meanwhile i turn this part into an exercise ... over time i end up with a collection of exercises which are part of my practice routine.... and the practice routine becomes longer and longer laugh.gif



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post Aug 28 2009, 10:36 AM
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Nothing wrong with your approach! I think a lot of members here will tell you they started the same way... The real question is , are you feeling like you are improving at fast pace? Are you getting stuck with songs that you are getting tabs for?
If answer to first question is NO and to second one is YES, then we need to help you out with techniques so you can master those songs.


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post Aug 28 2009, 11:32 AM
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This is all golden info guys!! Thanks so much !

I'm going to crack on with it tonight!

I dont think work are impressed that i'm able to access this site from work, i can't get off it haha!


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post Aug 28 2009, 06:22 PM
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Haha better watch out or your boss will fire you biggrin.gif


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