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post Aug 28 2009, 08:38 AM
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Hey there GMC Members,
I was just wondering if some of you can help me out. I am just doing Muris' Modern Blues Soloing Lesson: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/solo-guit...-blues-soloing/ and I have some issues with the ecact timing of this piece. It is written in 6/8 bars 95 bpm so you have to 6 beats per bar. You do I count this, if I count 8th notes it is pretty fast. What is the difference and use of 6/8 in contrast to 3/4 anyway? For what purposes are 6/8 being used. So can you tell me about this rhythm and explain to count it in order to get the timing exactly of this piece?
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post Aug 28 2009, 09:28 AM
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Speaking for myself, I would have a very, very hard time counting 3/4 over that rhythm and backing. Whenever I do a riff or something in 3/4 or 6/8, I kind of feel which one of them that is correct to use. Just try counting to the main video. First in 6/8 and then try 3/4, hopfully you will see a huge difference. smile.gif

It's about accents and feel of the rhythm. I now figured that it's also about tempo. If the lesson was in 190 bpm, then it would be 3/4. But since it's easier to have 95 bpm for this kind of backing, 6/8 is the way to go.

I count the rhythm 1-2-3-4-5-6

Hope that helped you a bit, some instructor will probably explain it alot better and more smile.gif
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post Aug 28 2009, 04:14 PM
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I might be wrong, but I thought 1-2-3-4-5-6-1-2-3-4-5-6

was the correct way? accenting the 4 would imply that it is 3/4 wouldn't it?

I'm really not sure though, maybe someone who knows better will chime in.
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post Aug 28 2009, 04:46 PM
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QUOTE (AdamB @ Aug 28 2009, 05:14 PM) *
I might be wrong, but I thought 1-2-3-4-5-6-1-2-3-4-5-6

was the correct way? accenting the 4 would imply that it is 3/4 wouldn't it?

I'm really not sure though, maybe someone who knows better will chime in.


Yes, but I find it easier to follow and to get the feel of the backing if I count it that way smile.gif To me, what makes the difference between 3/4 and 6/8 is the tempo
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post Aug 28 2009, 05:31 PM
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Ah right OK yea I think I just misunderstood you.
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post Aug 28 2009, 06:10 PM
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Actually 6/8 is a 2 beat time signature. And the subdivision of each beat is 3. To get the feel you got to coun 1-2 and go to 1-2-3-4-5-6 if you dont understand the rhythm, but the beat count should be 1, 2.

QUOTE (Dexxter @ Aug 28 2009, 12:46 PM) *
Yes, but I find it easier to follow and to get the feel of the backing if I count it that way smile.gif To me, what makes the difference between 3/4 and 6/8 is the tempo


No, 3/4 has 3 beats of 1/4 and 6/8 has 2 beats of a dotted quarters, the beat is longer.
3/4 has binary subdivision 6/8 have ternary subdivision.
Swing rythm is ussually a triplet with the first two notes tied and the third sounds as a pick up for whats comming next. It is ussualy noted in a binary time signature with the legent "swing" on top at the beggining of the score, however guitarpro isnt very reliable as notation software and some times is more safer tu use some strange time signatures to avoid mistakes.




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post Aug 28 2009, 06:19 PM
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Excellent response Gerardo, I was about to type the same thing smile.gif Well said man!


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QUOTE (Gerardo Siere @ Aug 28 2009, 07:10 PM) *
Actually 6/8 is a 2 beat time signature. And the subdivision of each beat is 3. To get the feel you got to coun 1-2 and go to 1-2-3-4-5-6 if you dont understand the rhythm, but the beat count should be 1, 2.



No, 3/4 has 3 beats of 1/4 and 6/8 has 2 beats of a dotted quarters, the beat is longer.
3/4 has binary subdivision 6/8 have ternary subdivision.
Swing rythm is ussually a triplet with the first two notes tied and the third sounds as a pick up for whats comming next. It is ussualy noted in a binary time signature with the legent "swing" on top at the beggining of the score, however guitarpro isnt very reliable as notation software and some times is more safer tu use some strange time signatures to avoid mistakes.


Great, thanks for clarifying! I was wrong. I really thought there were more to it, and it was smile.gif
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post Sep 2 2009, 02:03 PM
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Most of the time it's all about where kick and snare drum are placed,
if you have drums in the song of course. biggrin.gif
In this 6/8 measure you have kick on 1 and snare on 4
with 2 extra hits on 5 and 6 which completes 6/8 measure.
If there was 3/4 you would have kick on 1 and 4 most likely,
with snares on 2,3,5 and 6, that kind of a waltz. smile.gif


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