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Alejandro osorno
post Sep 2 2009, 03:34 PM
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Hey muris,
I have recently encounterd these chords on a song Ab2 Gb2
What are those? How do you make them?

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Muris Varajic
post Sep 2 2009, 03:40 PM
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Hi Alejandro.

Ab2 chord can be a lot of things and that one is tricky to explain totally,
people have been arguing a lot about what is it, the 2 chord.
In this case it can be Abadd9 (9 is same note as 2, only one octave higher)
or AbSus2 which is suspended 3rd (C or Cb) and added 2nd instead which is Bb note.
You can apply same thing for Bb2 chord ofc.
Most likely it's about inversion cause 2 and 9 do not sound the same, compared to root note,
in 2 there's 2nd interval which can often sound kind a dissonant
while in 9 there's major 9th interval and if you add 5thin the chord as well
it'll sound very doable to our ears.
Let me give you notes for Ab tho:
Abadd9= Ab, C, Eb and Bb.
AbSus2 = Ab, Bb and Eb.


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post Sep 2 2009, 03:51 PM
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Thanks for explaining Muris!
I understand it is very difficult to explain but I understood what you told me.
Sorry to bother you but I have the same question about another chord.
In a piece I had been playing recently I got F#alt, I have no idea what that means
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post Sep 2 2009, 04:11 PM
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F#altered chord is kind of dominant altered chord
where you can have altered 5th or 9th per example.
So if you see just F#alt it doesn't actually tells you everything about this chord
but most of the time it's used for 7/+9 chord,
F# 7/+9 would be: F#, A#, C#, E and G##.
Guitar players usually do not play 5th
and here's how they play it most of the time:
F# on A string 9th fret, A# on D string 8th fret,
E on G string 9th fret and G## on B string 10th fret.
Once more, in alt chord you can also have altered 5th, -5 or +5, depends. smile.gif


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Hi guys - and sorry Muris, can't resist butting in (as ever)

As an addition you can also see it as the related sus4 where the sus 2 is the first inversion if you go from the 4th of the sus4. i.e csus4=fsus2.

and same that the sus 4 is the 2nd inversion of the sus 2 from the 5th of the sus2.

BTW - sure Muris will add more to this but - alt often implies an altered 5th - sharpened or flattened, usually of the dominant chord/scale often from ascending 7th of the melodic minor scale. In an extended alt chord you would get the b9th - which you may want to look at viz Muris's great explanation of sus2 earlier. The 7b5 chord is one that is used a lot in jazz.

- Muris beat me to it smile.gif wink.gif

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QUOTE (tonymiro @ Sep 2 2009, 05:18 PM) *
Hi guys - and sorry Muris, can't resist butting in (as ever)

As an addition you can also see it as the related sus4 where the sus 2 is the first inversion if you go from the 4th of the sus4. i.e csus4=fsus2.

and same that the sus 4 is the 2nd inversion of the sus 2 from the 5th of the sus2.

BTW - sure Muris will add more to this but - alt often implies an altered 5th - sharpened or flattened, usually of the dominant chord/scale often from ascending 7th of the melodic minor scale. In an extended alt chord you would get the b9th - which you may want to look at viz Muris's great explanation of sus2 earlier. The 7b5 chord is one that is used a lot in jazz.

- Muris beat me to it smile.gif wink.gif


Have nothing to add, you just filled what I missed, cheers Tony. smile.gif


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post Sep 2 2009, 04:24 PM
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Thanks alot for the answers, They really helped biggrin.gif
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QUOTE (Alejandro osorno @ Sep 2 2009, 05:24 PM) *
Thanks alot for the answers, They really helped biggrin.gif


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