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post Oct 3 2009, 01:32 PM
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Here's my first attempt. smile.gif

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post Oct 3 2009, 01:38 PM
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Nice 1st take Matt. I like that you were thinking of repetition and different endings. However, when working on chord tone soloing I want you to go through whole guitar neck and do some linear sort of playing (play through the guitar neck from lowest to highest point). Does that make sense?
Keep up the good work and do more choruses (do whole backing track in fact!).


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post Oct 3 2009, 01:40 PM
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Ok I'll try and use more of the neck. One question though, am I supposed to be improvising these solos?
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post Oct 3 2009, 01:41 PM
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Yes Matt. Intention is not to compose but to improvise and do melodies in real time.


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post Oct 3 2009, 01:50 PM
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Oh ok, I'll improvise my next take.

Ok, here's my first attempt at an improv.

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post Oct 3 2009, 07:46 PM
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Improvising needs more work. I want you to listen to this take and see how I approached it as easy soloing approach (roots, roots and 3rds, roots 3rds 5ths, roots 3rds 5ths and 7ths).
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post Oct 3 2009, 08:05 PM
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Could you maybe say how you approached your solo in a few more words, and say why mine wasn't good, so I know exactly what I need to improve about my improvising, and how to do it? smile.gif
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post Oct 3 2009, 10:05 PM
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Matt my solo was done using simple approach and ideas.

1st chorus - soloing with just Roots
2nd chorus - soloing with Roots and 3rds
3rd chorus - soloing with Roots 3rds and 5ths
4th chorus - soloing with Roots 3rds 5ths and 7ths

I tried to cover as many octaves as possible when doing this type of approach. This makes sure that you really think where the notes are. Also, this approach helps you gradually learn chord tones from any given chord!

So for Emin7 A7 Dmaj7 , roots are E A D, roots and 3rds are E G A C# D F# etc

Your solo could be improved in many ways. For starters I think you need to do this approach first as it will help you see where all the chord tones are, then you can start being creative with it as much as you want wink.gif


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post Oct 3 2009, 10:09 PM
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Ok, I'll try that approach. smile.gif One question though, does "chord tones" mean playing notes of all the chords in the progression at anytime, or does it mean playing just the notes of the chord that you are soloing over at the time. I'm nearly certain it's the second one but I just want to make sure.

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post Oct 3 2009, 11:22 PM
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It applies to the second approach you mentioned Matt, you were right smile.gif


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post Oct 4 2009, 09:54 PM
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I had a go at a solo today following your approach, but I just couldn't think fast enough and I kept hitting wrong notes. I'll keep going at it and I'll try and upload something tomorrow, but I wondered if you had anymore tips?
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post Oct 4 2009, 10:09 PM
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Sure thing Matt. Try to figure out the notes first before playing them. So roots are E A and D. Find those notes on the neck and shapes (interval jumps in between them). If you memorize that, then next chorus you will just add some sort of 3rd to these notes, then 5ths etc So you will keep building over and over until you get full 4 note arpeggio sound.
I could send you slower backing track, that could help as well smile.gif


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post Oct 5 2009, 08:35 PM
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Ok, i'll try that. And yeh I think a slower backing might help but i can get it on the lesson.
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post Oct 6 2009, 12:23 AM
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I can upload it for you here if you want me to?


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post Oct 6 2009, 11:12 AM
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Ok. why not. smile.gif
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post Oct 6 2009, 11:20 AM
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Here you go Matt
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post Oct 6 2009, 11:43 AM
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Thanks smile.gif
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post Oct 6 2009, 11:47 AM
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Sure thing Matt.
Upload improvisations using chord tones and arpeggios by the end of this week (11th of October).


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post Oct 6 2009, 12:27 PM
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I had a go with the slower backing and it really helped, so here's my first upload at full speed. It's quite simple, so I'll try to make it more interesting, but if you could tell me if I'm on the right track then that'd be great.

Attached File  Chord_Tone_II_V_I_Solo__3_.mp3 ( 539.11K ) Number of downloads: 41


Here's a solo I did at the slower speed which is a bit more complex.
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post Oct 6 2009, 01:10 PM
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Also Pedja, I was reading this article on Wikipedia about Coltrane Changes. I think I understand everything up to the examples of Coltrane Changes, but the examples don't seem to make sense. I was wondering if you could have a go at explaining them to me?
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