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post Sep 13 2009, 10:45 PM
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As always thanks for the great & helpful feedback!
I know exactly what you mean - will try and improve!

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post Sep 14 2009, 02:21 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Sep 13 2009, 09:48 PM) *
Sorry mate, I overlooked the post. Of course - it would be great if I could hear the take again! Thanks.

Kaznie:

Rhythm: Great long notes, and very nice timing with accenting the first beats. I like how the part evolves in the second part of the solo as well, and how you use more notes as the solo progresses towards the end. As all the notes came nice and clean, I can safely say that your timing is perfect, but as always it would be good to fire up some nice sequence here and there, perhaps using some shorter note durations. This can greatly improve the quality of this take, and I am talking about just a small sequence. If you want I can give you an example of the sequence for the MTP in form of a small run. When I say small run I really mean something like 6-8 notes that are a bit faster. If executed properly, this solo could easily be professional material. It still is tho, but as we always say - it can always be better.
Phrasing: This solo was probably the best I heard so far from you, because the phrases really tell a nice story, and you really nailed a nice vibe here. Lots of feelings, good connection between the phrases and very fluid. I have a small suggestion in the second phrase, where you did couple of C-D notes and then went to root again. I think the D note would make a stronger and effective ending then the A. I phrase 3 you went octave higher which is a good way of further expanding the phrase, but then in phrase 4 you can back octave lower and played a root again. Possibly here it would be cool to do a nice bend or something just to escape a bit from the root. The second part of the solo was great, and ending very solid.
Technique: Well, there is certainly some improvements here, the bends are awesome, very expressive and I can really see your worked on them. Precisely in pitch, perfect timing, great sustain. Vibrato is also very very good, still needs some polishing but now you are doing it slowly and with more control. All the notes came out very clear, so really well done with the execution.
Sound: The sound could use some tweaking, the problem is with the top end buzz that is too great. I believe a bit more smoother preset would be great. It is not that easy to get it with software, but it can be done, specially if you start to use EQing of the guitar, and if you lower down the gain slightly to increase dynamics a bit.


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post Sep 14 2009, 09:31 PM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Sep 13 2009, 09:59 PM) *
Thx for the very constructive criticism Ivan! Since I love playing to this kind of music, I will try to improve the second part. ( I actually had other ideas, but my lousy technique stopped me...) If its OK with You I will post an updated take in a couple of days. smile.gif

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QUOTE (Berglmir @ Sep 13 2009, 11:45 PM) *
As always thanks for the great & helpful feedback!
I know exactly what you mean - will try and improve!

Cheers!!
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QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Sep 14 2009, 03:21 PM) *
Thanks biggrin.gif Me is prowd biggrin.gif

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post Sep 17 2009, 04:01 AM
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As usual I am cutting short on time. Here is a third take since I said I would. I will post the NBT for the one you think I should use. thanks man smile.gif


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post Sep 17 2009, 04:19 AM
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Hey to all in the colab! This sounds great! Can I ask, I always seem to miss the start of the collaborations and would like to try some. How do I find them when they start, and is it too late to try to join this one? THanks cool.gif



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post Sep 17 2009, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE (Hammerhead @ Sep 16 2009, 10:19 PM) *
Hey to all in the colab! This sounds great! Can I ask, I always seem to miss the start of the collaborations and would like to try some. How do I find them when they start, and is it too late to try to join this one? THanks cool.gif


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post Sep 17 2009, 05:23 AM
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QUOTE (jafomatic @ Sep 16 2009, 05:25 PM) *
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post Sep 18 2009, 08:38 AM
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leedbreak:

Rhythm: Starting great in the first part with a perfect timing. Every note is precisely in place, and the 16th notes in the end of the part 1 are now enriched nicely with some 8ths as well, which is very nice to hear. The second part is also very good, although there are some minor timing issues in the end.
Phrasing: This part had very similar structure as the one before, and I believe the phrases were are blended together nicely. There are some inserted effects, like the slide in from bellow in the beginning of the part. All the notes came out clear as well. Second part is the only part that you played one note outside of scale towards the end (in that descending sequence), but besides that I think the take was perfect, and all the notes had their proper place, well done.
Technique: The whole take was played very nicely. The problems that I saw were mostly around that big bend in the first part and legato triplets in the first part as well that were a bit slow. The triplet sequences in the second part also would use some tightening up. However these are small details, since all the notes came out very clear and with solid timing.
Sound: Good tone, as said previously, well balanced, low buzz. Not that smooth, but goes along with the track nicely and cuts well through the mix.


In general, I believe this take is a major improvement, because it is played very clean and precise. The only note that is outside of the key is the one towards the end, and I consider this the only mistake in the whole take. I can see that you tried very hard to do this solo, and this version is the best one, since you have that degree of comfort and security while playing this take. Well done.


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post Sep 18 2009, 03:19 PM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Sep 18 2009, 02:38 AM) *
leedbreak:

Rhythm: Starting great in the first part with a perfect timing. Every note is precisely in place, and the 16th notes in the end of the part 1 are now enriched nicely with some 8ths as well, which is very nice to hear. The second part is also very good, although there are some minor timing issues in the end.
Phrasing: This part had very similar structure as the one before, and I believe the phrases were are blended together nicely. There are some inserted effects, like the slide in from bellow in the beginning of the part. All the notes came out clear as well. Second part is the only part that you played one note outside of scale towards the end (in that descending sequence), but besides that I think the take was perfect, and all the notes had their proper place, well done.
Technique: The whole take was played very nicely. The problems that I saw were mostly around that big bend in the first part and legato triplets in the first part as well that were a bit slow. The triplet sequences in the second part also would use some tightening up. However these are small details, since all the notes came out very clear and with solid timing.
Sound: Good tone, as said previously, well balanced, low buzz. Not that smooth, but goes along with the track nicely and cuts well through the mix.


In general, I believe this take is a major improvement, because it is played very clean and precise. The only note that is outside of the key is the one towards the end, and I consider this the only mistake in the whole take. I can see that you tried very hard to do this solo, and this version is the best one, since you have that degree of comfort and security while playing this take. Well done.


Ivan, thanks for the very motivating comments. I needed to hear this. So that why I spent so much time on it. Writing a solo is pretty easy while playing it may not always be.

I think taking a few day break from it is what helped the most. I will get NBT3 up tonight.


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post Sep 19 2009, 12:27 AM
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Ah great man, glad to hear that, and thanks a lot for participating in such a great way on this collab. Well done with the composition and playing as well! smile.gif


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post Sep 19 2009, 12:32 AM
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Aloha,
Attached File  Rock_Ballad_consolidated_consolidated_consolidated.mp3 ( 906.49K ) Number of downloads: 136
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I think I read that we no longer need to upload 2 files is that true? Just 1 file with backing works?

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post Sep 19 2009, 12:14 PM
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Heres my take! smile.gif

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post Sep 21 2009, 02:01 PM
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Here is my take. My first collab ! biggrin.gif
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Another upload without sound mod...
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Hi Ivan.
I tried to fix up the things You were commenting, I dunno if I succeeded... huh.gif
I changed part two, but the lasr note is not 100%.....

Also I recorded with another guitar (Warmoth) as well as used one of Muris presets from GR3 with som modifications.

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post Sep 23 2009, 04:46 PM
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Aloha Ivan,

I've tried to address the tone and clean it up just a bit... so I did another take. cool.gif

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Hey Ivan, there goes my take... Its pretty much of an improvisation... It was fun! Hope you like it!

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Here's my take Ivan smile.gif Mostly improvised

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Here's mine Ivan, hope it's not too late!!! biggrin.gif
Recorded as a complete Improv as I didn't want to miss another of your collabs!!
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