Classic Ballad Soloing Collaboration, UPLOAD THREAD |
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Sep 26 2009, 04:31 AM
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Sep 26 2009, 05:50 AM
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QUOTE (TheKeplerConjecture @ Sep 25 2009, 05:31 PM)  You NAILED it! That is great 
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Sep 26 2009, 06:40 PM
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Hammerhead (goes for both takes)
Rhythm: The rhythmical balance in your playing was made with a big contrast in both take 1 and take 2. In the first part you had some very long notes, some of them were a bit too long if we consider the general picture. In the second part you produced some many more notes and not all of them were perfectly in time, which disrupted the balance. The thing I can recommend with your take is to try to make a bit more gentle contrast. The contrast idea itself is very good, but it cannot function properly when the parts are so much different from one another. Solution would be to implement some more notes in the first part and to pull out some notes from the second part. This will lead to more balanced rhythmical structure, and more accurate timing in the second part as well. Phrasing: The phrasing in the whole take was a bit unstructured as well, specially in the second part with those faster passages. What I recommend here is to compress some of the phrases in the first part so that they fit the bars nicely and they have a more faster flow. In the second part, the opposite thing must happen - phrases should be more connected and stretched out, and the last bend should stay on the pitch (without letting it go). Technique: All the techniques used are very good, and bends are very good. The thing that could be implemented are more vibratos, and more accurate legato playing in the second part so that all the notes have equal loudness. Sound: Your tone in both takes was in essence very good and smooth, but it lacks definition cause you added too much reverb on it. It made it get lost in the mix a bit, and not all the notes came out clear. I think by lowering down a reverb would definitely make it already much better. There was also some hum audible on the guitar track. I actually think that the second take had pretty much the same sound as the first one, and it was less loud as well. sted: Rhythm: There is a slight rhythmical disproportion in your take, mainly because of the use of faster passages in the first part, which in return didn't created enough of a spring board for the solo to jump to when the second part kicks in. Towards the end of the first part you had some very cool slower passages, and if you similar rhythm phrases throughout the first part, the proportion will be created, so the solo could peak in the second part. The timing was mostly off on many phrases as well, due to the fact many notes were played without accenting the backing track groove properly with them, so - less notes and accenting the strong notes on the click will make it a lot lot better. Phrasing: Lots of good phrases were used in here, but they were note connected very good. The solo must tell a story, and have a reasonable melodic structure. I suggest making a main there melody for the solo that is simple and catchy and trying to develop it throughout the solo. This will definitely make it a lot structured. Also it may be wise to finish the solo on the root note, or any strong note from the last chord. This will sound really strong and it will have a sense of completion. Technique: Good playing throughout the whole solo, and the bends were nice and fast. The thing that I noticed is that some notes suffer from pitch bending, which is usually a result of not that good vibrato. If you land on a note, you must keep it precise, no movement unless you can do a nicely controlled vibrato and you know how long you will do that before you move on. Sound: The sound was good, cut through the mix well, and everything was nice and audible. I would put slightly less space here, and use lowpass filter to cut those higher frequencise out that are causing minor buzz issues. The amount of distortion could be slightly less as well for this recording. Keilnoth: Rhythm: Simplistic approach in your case payed out, and the rhythmical structure follows the backing track very well. Everything was nicely fitted and balanced out, although I would like to hear some nice faster sequence involving 8th notes in the last part. The 3 eight notes followed by doted half phrases in the first part were very effective. Phrasing: Great sense for melody and structuring phrases. The lines were really telling a nice story, and it all made sense. The first couple of phrases were the intro, later came development and in the second part a nice wrap up. As I said, one faster sequence would reach a bigger climax and the solo could have a bigger dynamics, so I think you can work on that and insert it somewhere towards the end of the second part to make it professional Technique: There were some weak notes in the solo, and vibrato was not that great and well controlled, but I think you played within your abilites and pulled out very good solo. One thing that would definitely raise the quality of this solo is effective vibrato control, so this is IMO the first thing you should focus on. Sound: The sound was not that good. Lots of clipping and too much reverb really made it harsh sounding. What I suggest is smoothing out the preset, lowering down the volume of your input so that there is no clipping, and lowering down the reverb for better results. Sound (take 2): Well you implemented all the things that were a problem in the first take, and it turned out great now. The only thing that is left to fix is the amount of reverb. Try lowering it down to bring it to the same amount of space backing has, so it doesn't sound to "far away" from the backing (band). Staffy: great improvement in this take, and the sound is very good now, although I think it still has some of the unpleasant top end sizzle audible on some notes, so smoothing out the high end is something that I can recommend. regarding your playing - great, best solo I've heard from you so far. Very nicely played and well controlled notes. The 2 16th note sequences in the second part were good, solid play and well executed, although I can notice some degree of uncomfort when playing them. They did turn out great, and I'm very happy to hear them, they bring a lot into this solo which sounds professional. Regarding bends, they are good, but I have a feeling they are not controlled that well, and some of them a bit slow and not precisely on pitch. So from this take, there are couple of things that could be better: - more comfort on the faster runs (exercise 15-20bpm faster then the backing tempo) - more strength on bends (practice bending on faster tempos) - remove the top end sizzle on the preset to make it smoother (some notes are a bit harsh because of this, but not all) enforcer: Rhythm: The rhythmical balance is there, because you used the slower passages in the first part and faster passages in the second, but your timing was off in many notes in this take. The reasons for this are different as we progress throughout the solo. In the first part, the best way to accent the strong notes and to really make a good connection with the backing is to watch out for the kick and snare of the drum. These provide a good reference point around which you can build your rhythmical phrases. Failing to do so will set some notes in between with unclear rhythmical meaning which can be very misleading. In the second part, there were some very cool fast passages, but I think not all notes were nicely in place again, mainly because there were too many of them and they were note all balanced out rhythmically. Improvisation goal is also to make all the notes placed in their correct place in the backing, so by practicing those runs on slower tempo and knowing exactly what note goes where in a bar will make a world difference. Phrasing: Great development in the first part, I really liked how the phrases flowed into one another. The second part however lacked a good structure, as there were too much notes in some places. I believe you could played here with more structure and less notes and still manage to express the same thing you wanted with the way you played your take. Technique: There are two issues that can be addressed to in this solo. Those are vibrato and muting. String noise that occurs in some places accents the need for a proper muting techniques while practicing, and I definitely feel that more tighter, slower, and more controlled vibrato could raise the quality of your take. Sound: In essence a great tone, smooth and cool, but I think too much delay is added, and the guitar notes loose definition this way, specially when the second part kicks in. Lot less space is the solution here. This post has been edited by Ivan Milenkovic: Sep 26 2009, 07:17 PM -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Sep 26 2009, 07:28 PM
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Power_Arctica
Rhythm: Good balance and build up, although I believe the intersection between the first and the second part and the part of your solo towards the end are a bit too fast and are struggling to keep the balance right. Everything else was nicely fitted in place, and I especially like the energetic ending. Phrasing: great development in the first part of the solo, and the build up in the second part was also very good. The only thing I can notice is that the last fast lick is an area that lacks connection to the rest of the phrases around it towards the end of the solo. The contrast between the finishing phrase and the fast lick before it is too great for an effective finish, so this is the thing that needs a bit polishing. Getting those phrases into connection would really wrap up your soloing in a professional manner. Technique: Everything was played nicely with a good aggressive style that you prefer. I think some places need improvement, and those would primarily be bended vibratos and vibratos. You executed them and use them extensively, but the problem is with making them balanced and even. Vibrato must sound even, all the bends should be the same, and precisely in pitch. Sound: The sound is good, but there are couple of things I can recommend. Lower down the distortion a bit, remover the top end slightly, and decrease space effect you used slightly This would help to get it connected with a backing a bit more. The Collab is now closed, and I'm working on a final mix. Rest of the comments tomorrow. Thanks for your patience! 
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Sep 27 2009, 12:18 AM
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You're welcome man. Thanks for joining in.
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Sep 27 2009, 06:02 PM
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Dexxter:
Rhythm: Very good sense for rhythm displayed in this take, accentuation mostly done on the first beat, and properly locked with the kick drum. This kind of rhythmic pattern repeats throughout the first and second part of the solo. The only thing that this take lacks is a proper climax build up. You seem to manage to reach the climax with the phrasing and use of higher notes in the second part, but if this build up was backed up by proper rhythm in the second part the solo would turn out much better. Solution for this is definitely inserting some faster sequences in the second part. Doesn't have to be super fast, but 8th notes during the course of 1-2 bars would make a world difference. Phrasing: Excellent phrase groups that interact with one another in a very nice and fluid way, mainly due to those excellent bends. The phrases are nicely connected and almost all the strong notes are nicely accentuated over their respective chords. There was some unclear ideas in the very beginning where one phrase ended up on a bit unusual note, compared to the phrases around them, but me as a listener really have feeling that you carefully played this with very good attention to details and where each note should go. Very good improvised solo. Technique: Your solo definitely has a vocal quality to it because of the way you played bends and vibratos, which is excellent IMO. One thing that lacks is the use of those faster sequences to spice things up, but other than that, very good playing. Sound: Very good tone, smooth mids, tight lows, and just a little top end sizzle then I would like to hear, but far from being harsh. The important part of your tone is the way you play, and you do fret the notes carefully enough to produce consistent tone throughout the solo. Excellent control IMO. -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Sep 27 2009, 06:17 PM
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Sensible Jones:
Rhythm: Excellent rhythm, and sense for keeping the dynamics of the rhythmical phrases flowing and moving. The way you played last bits of both part 1 and part 2 are really done great, I really had an impression of things moving and flowing. This is because you managed to increase the tempo feel of the backing track in order to build up a proper ending in the both parts with those 8th note slides. Although you kept solid time with accentuation on the 1 beat, there were some very slight timing issues in the first few phrases of the solo, notes escaped the kick drum by a fraction of second. Phrasing: All the phrases in the take were very nicely fitted in and structured in a way that makes perfect sense. If you ask me, the solo had a little "too perfect" sense to me, and this is mainly because of the repetitive root use as and ending of the phrases, even on the last phrase in the solo. This creates a predictive feel with the listener. The solution to this problem is a very easy one - rehearse improvising so that you play licks that are familiar to you, but play a different landing note each time and focus on strong notes. This will create a really nice degree of variety within your playing, so you create a sense of tension and question with the listener of where you will go next. Technique: All the techniques used were well rehearsed and solid. The thing that I can recommend upgrading is bending and vibrato. Two things that need better control and pitch accuracy, and it will raise the quality to greater heights. Sound: Slightly boxy sound, tight bass response, sharp mids, and slightly buzzing highs that need some low pass filtering. The thing that is audible is some degree of clipping so I think you should adjust the level of the signal a bit. Everything else was very good. This post has been edited by Ivan Milenkovic: Sep 27 2009, 06:28 PM -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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Sep 27 2009, 08:00 PM
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TheKeplerConjecture:
Rhythm: Timing in the take was very good, almost all the notes had a strong attachment to the beats in the solo, and longer notes ringed just the way they supposed too. One thing that I think lacks here is a proper rhythmical dynamics, and me as a listener feel that rhythm of a solo is a bit flat with no real sense were the beginning, middle and end are, because of continuos use of sixteen triplets sequences throughout the solo. I think a nicer balance can be achieved if you try to group the rhythmical phrases so that they lead to a climax, and then run down to a finish with more connection between them, and more connection to the backing as well. The way you played, I have impression that backing is constantly slowing down-speeding up in wave like motion, which in the end produces a more flat dynamic response than I would like to hear. Nevertheless, the timing was very good, and it leaves impression of well played and sharly executed take with a variety of interesting rhythm phrases to listen. Phrasing: Your phrasing was very interesting to listen as it had lots of cool moments and melodies. Lack of structure is evident here as well, but as a general impression. Phrases do connect with each other in a nice way, but they all don't form a complete story as a whole. I think the main reason is playing familiar licks and runs previously rehearsed, and I can clearly hear the segments that you practiced and that you are trying to implement here. The integration of the things you practice however must be done seamlessly, so that the listener cannot tell what you practiced. This will all come in time and with more interesting patterns for practicing, but there is one thing to keep in mind when improvising. I think there were moments in the solo where you focused on the melody nicely, but these moments are rare. You should try to focus to listen what you play, and try to make simple but effective melodies/phrases that correlate to one each other, instead of playing familiar sequences in order to make your phrasing even better. Technique: Excellent techniques displayed, all the phrasing effects were very nicely used, in proper places, and I specially like the release bend you do, and control over the tone. Everything is balanced, well played, and every note has it's proper pitch, tone and dynamics with very little accidental oscillations of sound. Sound: Not to focused low end, but sharp mids and highs that really cut nicely. The buzzing is audible to some extent, so I believe you should try to possible lower down the gain a bit to achieve a more tighter and defined sound without any sounding unnatural. The space is used to a big extent here, so I also recommend lowering down the delay just a bit. However, I usually disslike the space when it is added too much, but your space effects add a nice quality to the guitar signal. Just keep it safe, and don't push effects over that edge where you loose tone definition and it will be fine. QUOTE (Hammerhead @ Sep 27 2009, 07:13 PM) Ivan, Thank you, I had the same thoughts, I would like for it to flow more and your advice is right on. I will work on those areas!! Thanks for letting me jump in No problem man, anytime. Cheers
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Sep 28 2009, 09:48 PM
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Thanks for participating in both collabs man, very nice of you. Hope to see you on the next one!
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Sep 29 2009, 11:53 AM
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QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Sep 29 2009, 12:31 PM) WOW! Thanks Ivan!!! I know I have to try and sort the sound out, I'm still fairly new to PC Recording but I'm getting there slowly I think!  I will keep playing over this BT and try and not keep hitting the Root!!! Thanks again for such great, constructive advice!! THanks a lot man, I appreciate it!
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Sep 29 2009, 09:05 PM
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here go, a little late, but better late than never
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Sep 29 2009, 09:25 PM
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Marc_maiden:
Rhythm: Good rhythmical structure in the first part, I really had the impression of you solo moving nicely along side the backing track. The transition into 2nd section was a bit harsh tho, and the faster sequences in the second part didn't quite correlate nicely with the first part of the solo. They seem like two completely separate solos for me as a listener, so I think better connection between these two would create a much more nicer balance to this take. Timing also needs some refinement in the second section. Phrasing: Excellent phrasing in the first part, really nice melodic passages that blend into one another in a fluid way. Very good. In the transition part and throughout the second section, I think structure got a bit weaker, and the phrases were still there, but not as nicely connected as in the first part. Faster passages really didn't play their function or raising to the climax, because the loudness was a bit acquard, and they are placed without any strong connection with other phrases around them. Technique: Well controlled vibrato and bends, makes the solo sing. The faster passage in the second section is lacking definition, and the notes could be better played. Towards the end, things got better, but I think you could play the second part with more attention to the notes. Sound: A bit raw sound that lacks some degree of distortion and space. It was a bit dry, and two dimensional, so just a tab bit overdrive and delay would already make it a lot better. This post has been edited by Ivan Milenkovic: Sep 29 2009, 09:26 PM -------------------- - Ivan's Video Chat Lesson Notes HERE
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