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post Sep 22 2009, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Sep 22 2009, 02:16 PM) *
Does it also works as an attenuator on Your wife/girlfriend ??? *i think i must get one of these...* biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


I have 8 cats. I have met women who love animals this much, except only talking in the pet department of Walmart. Not one of the best spots to pick up chics.

Seriously, and I am not the only one, the clean channel of a good tube amp is what attracts me to it. I think you get a better sound with the correct set of stomp boxes running through a good tube amp with a great clean channel. The Vai Legacy is fantastic. I can't imagine who would not love this amp. It makes standard pickups sound as good as any pickup you would want, because the harmonic range of the presence is unreal.

I have a attenuator. It took me 2 minutes to know I agree with others, they suck, even the best of them. What you lose is just not worth what you gain with an attenuator.

edit: also for home play, well you want it to sound good. most important thing may be the speakers. My Vai Legacy is a combo, pretty big amp, closed cabinet with Celestion Vintage 30's in it. My Carvin Belair also has those 2 speakers (which are fine ones), with an open cabinet. I found using both, setting the Belair on top of my Legacy and using the speakers in parallel, really sounds fabulous. The Belair is a nice amp also, but sounds a lot different from the Legacy. I am sure I will use it more in the future again for variety, with the 4 speakers. I just think people are wasting their time cranking up little amps. I doubt many impartial listeners would think such an cranked up amp has a sound that compares to my set up. Not unless they have a good speaker set up for sure.

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post Sep 22 2009, 11:03 PM
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QUOTE (Praetorian @ Sep 22 2009, 08:23 PM) *
Actually it sounds amazing. The clean tone is like nothing I have ever played on before. You can nice breakup when you crank up the volume, kick in the overdrive and turn the attenuator up so it is at a proper listening volume! The only pedal I own is the metal muff and it sounds killer! It really is the best of both worlds. I also got mine at an unreal price...$800 brand new at a Fourth of July sale!!!


Nice!, awesome price indeed, lucky you!


QUOTE (fkalich @ Sep 22 2009, 08:51 PM) *
I have a Carvin Legacy, which is known to be a very very loud 100W. Just the right size for the bed room.


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post Sep 22 2009, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (fkalich @ Sep 22 2009, 09:32 PM) *
I have 8 cats.


Nearly there but a +1.

Never seem to get above 4 cats here for some reason due to natural attrition sad.gif and we neuter asap. We do feed a lot of strays though rolleyes.gif .

At present 2 cats and 1 kitten (plus 1 silly dog, 2 rabbits, several chickens, a pig and 2 lambs). Neighbour's also got his flock of sheep in our field at the mo.

So I need +15W to drown out the farmyard wink.gif


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QUOTE (fkalich @ Sep 22 2009, 11:32 PM) *
I just think people are wasting their time cranking up little amps. I doubt many impartial listeners would think such an cranked up amp has a sound that compares to my set up. Not unless they have a good speaker set up for sure.


I agree to that, I owned a lot of amps but noone can compare to my Marshall 2103, when it comes to clean sound it is another story, but I think that the speakers must move some air as well to make it sound good.... I mean, with an attenuator the amp are burning, but not the speakers......

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post Sep 22 2009, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Sep 22 2009, 10:30 PM) *
... I mean, with an attenuator the amp are burning, but not the speakers......

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That may depend on speaker load, efficiency and so on but generally yes...


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QUOTE (Staffy @ Sep 23 2009, 12:30 AM) *
I agree to that, I owned a lot of amps but noone can compare to my Marshall 2103, when it comes to clean sound it is another story, but I think that the speakers must move some air as well to make it sound good.... I mean, with an attenuator the amp are burning, but not the speakers......

//Staffay


Not only this, but attenuator colors the sound as well. THD Hotplate is known for his transparency, but still it cannot preserve the sound if it is attenuated a lot. The speakers have to move air in order to achieve some tone, no point in feeding 10W in 200-300W cab and expecting it to play good. The bottom line, attenuation levels with all the devices should be taken with a pinch or salt. If it says -16db, go to 8-10dB for a good sound, and allow a decent volume for speakers to deliver a good punch.

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The blues Junior is nice smile.gif i was about to get it, but now im gonna go for the Orange rocker 30combo
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