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Gabriel Leopardi
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Hi Guys! This is the final mix and comments thread for the Southern Metal Collaboration! Here you'll find my comments regarding your solo composition, your technique and you tone. I really enjoyed mixing this collaboration because there are many great entries and ideas. This collaboration made me discover that we have many southern rockers here. I'm also surprised of the quality of the playing and composition abilities showed in this collaboration. Download the final mix and listen to it to know that I'm telling the true. So I have to say Thank you all for the participation and Congrats for your playing!

These are the 14 participants:
Chris Evans – Dark Dude – DenisN – Dexxter – Enforcer – Jafomatic – Kaznie – Leedbreak – Mskeide – Nimrandir – Outlaw – Superize – Marek - The kepler conjecture

Here we go with the comments:

Chris Evans: (0:04 – 00:33)
Great take Chris! It starts with a killer rock lick over pentatonic very well played. I like the combination of bluesy licks with fast stuff in the following sections. The tapping lick is fantastic! And it is very well played (I'll borrow it for any improvisation!). I notice some little timing (very little) problem in the fast alternate picking licks. This can easily be worked with metronome. The rest is played perfect. I like your tone in this take. Thank you for this killer and inspiring take!

Dark Dude: (00:33 – 01:33)
Congrats for your first recording & collaboration man! You did a great job! The first part of your solo has interesting ideas played with wah wah (it sounds like a auto wah ). However I would like to comment that in this part you play every idea like separated (there is silence between licks) and this makes the solo sound like a group of licks and not as a unified idea. I think that you should work this. You used many bends and long notes in the whole solo and it fits perfect with the backing. I It would be really good if you could add a stronger vibrato to make it sound more expressive. I don't really understand what you are playing in the faster part. It doesn't sound very clear. The same happens with the last lick which seems to be very cool! Anyhow you did a great job in your first recording ever! Thanks for this take & keep on rocking.

DenisN: (01:03 – 01:33)
Nice take and solo man! I can hear some Zakk Wylde and also John 5 influences in this solo! I really enjoy the solo that you composed. It starts with a bluesy pentatonic idea with a cool "answer" & "response" evolution. Then you played perfectly faster pentatonic + blue note licks. Everything is perfect in the first section. The second section is also very interesting and it remembers me to John 5 melodies. It also played well but it has some little intonation problems in the second lick (after the harmonic) and also in the last bends. You should add stronger vibrato to sound more like a metal cowboy! Thank for this amazing solo!

Dexxter: (01:33 – 02:01)
Your solo starts promising with some interesting licks very in the style. There are some little timing issues in the first licks but nothing too much important. I really enjoy the first section of your solo. When you get to the second part I start to feel that the whole solo is too lineal. There are different interesting ideas in your solo but I think that you should to work on the evolution of the solo to make it sound more entertained. Everything sounds on scale and is played very well. Your tone sounds great with a nice Eq and drive amount. Good job!

Enforcer: (02:02 – 02:32)
Hey man! There are lots of amazing ideas in this solo. I also have to say that your technique is really good. The fast licks played with alternate picking sound very clean as well as the sweep and the tapping lick. I like the way you composed each part of this solo. I can feel a dialogue between licks in this solo from the beginning. This makes the solo evolve in fluently. I want to stand out the last lick that you used to end the solo, it's PERFECT! The only thing that I would add her is a bit more of expression (maybe this is because you didn't have enough time to practice the solo). This can be achieved playing stronger with you pick and adding a stronger vibrato in some parts.
Other thing that I note is that the double string bending at 02:12 sounds a bit delayed. However you did a great job!

Thanks for your solo!


Jafomatic: (02:32 – 03:01)
I can really feel southern vibes in your playing! Everything starts with a fast pentatonic lick which is very effective and resolves in a rocker bend. Then you continue with some classic rock ideas once again over pentatonic minor that fits perfect with the chord progression. The second part has also a very good evolution. I notice in both part that the fastest licks don't sound clean enough. You should isolate those licks an practice them with metronome as exercises. Start slowly and concentrated on muting (with your right hand palm and with you left hand's fingers that you don't use) the strings that mustn't ring. You should always play this licks picking stronger with your right hand.
Another thing that I wan to suggest is to work on your tone. That's the other reason that doesn't make you playing sound clean. I don't know what you are using but if it's a amp simulator try changing the amp or the stomp. Anyhow it'0s a great composition so you just have to work on making it sound killer! Keep on rocking!


Kaznie: (03:01 – 03:30)
Hey Kaznie. Unfortunately I have to say that this time I'm not convinced of your solo composition. I know what you can give us with your guitar and this time I feel that the solo has very repetitive ideas from the beginning. The F major – G major bridge licks sound a bit more interesting than the previous licks and I think that you should have explored more those ideas. Regarding the technique I must say that every lick is played well and the notes sound clean. Your bends are very precise in this solo. Adding more stronger vibrato would be really good to make your playing sound more expressive.
Thanks for your take!

Leedbreak: (03:30 – 04:00)
Hello Leedbreak! The solo composition ok and it has some great moments and licks. However I don't find many interesting ideas until the second part. You start with the 9th of D minor and it makes the solo sound original for the style. Then you play a pentatonic lick that remembers me to Kirk Hammet (which is really good for me!). The other ideas sound a bit less interesting. The second part of the solo is more entertained than the first one. My favourite part is the beginning of the second part (from 03:45). From that lick everything evolves very cool with amazing double string licks. I think that you should add a bit of presence or treble to your tone. Ok, that's all for this take! I hope that this helps you! Keep on rocking!

Mskeide: (04:00 – 04:29)
Hey man! I really enjoyed this take! The tone & playing is clean and very professional. The first two ideas are fantastic. First a long bend and then some muted alternate picking played perfectly. The following ideas are also really good but have some little technique issues to improve. They are ok but they don't sound such clean than the precious one. From that point the ideas become a bit less interesting until the classic rock repetitive lick that sounds killer and gives place to a perfect ending lick. The addition of auto wah (or maybe a real wah wah) fits perfect and it's very well controlled. I think that with a little of extra work on this you'll have a very professional take. Great job!

Nimrandir (04:29 – 04:59)
Wou!!! This take is killer! I feel like if I was hearing Zakk Wylde in some parts, Slash in others, Doug Aldrich in others.. You really nailed the style perfectly! There are some licks that I want to learn there! The solo evolves perfect. You did a really great composition alternating classic rock licks with fast pentatonic licks. You're tone also fits perfect with the style. So I just have to say Congrats for this take and thank you for your take!!

Outlaw (04:59 – 05: 29)
Hey Outlaw! The first thing that I note when your solo starts is that your tone isn't helping you to sound clean and clear. If you hear the final mix you'll note it as soon as it starts. Try changing some settings of your amp. It sounds like an amp simulator so I suggest you to use another amp. I like the licks and ideas that you are playing in your solo. I think that with a little of work on precision and timing you could have a very good take for this backing. I note that you are having problem with both hand's synchronization in the fastest alternate picking licks. This is very easy to work. The problem here is that one of your hands is moving faster than the other one. You have to work with metronome at a comfortable tempo for both hands. After some minutes of practice you can add 5 bpm and so... You have to continue in this way until you reach the required tempo. Thanks a lot for your take Outlaw!


Superize (05:29 – 05:59)
Hi Superize! I like the way you start the solo with a nice pentatonic phrasing. Everything evolves in an entertained way until the last part where you the last bends. Maybe the repetition of bends makes the last part sound a bit reiterative and without surprise and emotion. There are some parts where I feel that the licks sound like a bit isolated one from another. Try to work on this to make the transitions sound more smoothly. The first sweeps sound a bit out of tune in one part are some of the last notes don't ring well. The notes that you chose for this sweeps aren't the best for this part. You are playing C major arpeggio over F major and D major arpeggio over G major chord. This makes the idea sound a bit strange because you are playing this triad: 5th + 7th + 9th. You repeat this idea later over D minor chord. This isn't wrong but maybe sounds a bit more "jazzy" than the things that we are used to hear in this style. I also note that some bends could ring better. Finally I want to ad that I like your tone. It sound clean and with a warm eq. Thanks for you take!

Marek (05:58 – 06:28)
Hey Marek! Nice playing! I like the ideas that you show here and I think that with a little more of work in the ideas you could have an amazing take. It sound like and improvisation and that makes some like sound a bit unsure or doubtful (don't know the correct word for this). You tone is very enjoyable in this take and this is also helped by a tasty playing. Regarding your technique I can say that everything is well played (excepting the tapping that has some notes that don't ring and I think that you could add more vibrato to your playing. As I said in previous comment here I note that the transition between licks should be smoother. Work on this! Thanks for your take man!

The kepler conjecture: (06:28 - 07:00)
This is rock and roll! hahah. You really nailed the vibes of the style. I can hear COC, Spiritual Beggards, Lynyrd Skynyrd and much more music in your solo! Your take is a very good example to show that an easy solo can be amazing. I like the evolution of your take. The interaction between licks sounds like a dialogue and it is very smooth.
Every time I hear the take I like it more so I just want to congrats you for this taste take!
Keep on rocking!

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QUOTE (kaznie_NL @ Sep 23 2009, 11:34 AM) *
Hey Gabs, I respect your comments, and I think you are very right tongue.gif I really apreciate your honesty, thanks!



Thanks you Kaznie! I'm glad that you understand what I mean. My idea here is to help the more I can with these comments! smile.gif


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post Sep 23 2009, 03:01 PM
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Gabriel thanks for Your time, backing and comments!:) As I wrote earlier I had a quite long break from playing, and working on this collab was first thing I did after the break. Unfortunately I got bubbles on my fingertips (first time in my life mellow.gif ), so without more practicing I recorded what I could.

When it goes to tapping, I am not sure why is that, but I am doing something wrong lately. I had no such problems with tapping before, and now some notes aren't ringing as You said. Maybe this is because my strings are set really close to the fingerboard, much closer than on my first guitar? I must investigate it:P

Some takes are really great, I hope to be able to play like that in the future:)


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Hey man! There are lots of amazing ideas in this solo. I also have to say that your technique is really good. The fast licks played with alternate picking sound very clean as well as the sweep and the tapping lick. I like the way you composed each part of this solo. I can feel a dialogue between licks in this solo from the beginning. This makes the solo evolve in fluently. I want to stand out the last lick that you used to end the solo, it's PERFECT! The only thing that I would add her is a bit more of expression (maybe this is because you didn't have enough time to practice the solo). This can be achieved playing stronger with you pick and adding a stronger vibrato in some parts.
Other thing that I note is that the double string bending at 02:12 sounds a bit delayed. However you did a great job!

Thanks for your solo!


Thanks man, yeah you are riight I didn't have much time to record this, and also I still have some flaws that concerns me. Firstly, when I try to do something like this, I concentrate on the composing side more than I should sometimes. Thus things that I hardly do, or recently acquired (like vibrato skill or timing) starts to fail, and more monstrously, I fail the notice the problems on them. I should really concentrate more, and I'll do better next time.

A perfect mix by the way, as far as I can hear (with the guide of my reference monitors at home) there is no problem at all.

Great job mate, take care!

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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 23 2009, 10:27 AM) *
The kepler conjecture: (06:28 - 07:00)
This is rock and roll! hahah. You really nailed the vibes of the style. I can hear COC, Spiritual Beggards, Lynyrd Skynyrd and much more music in your solo! Your take is a very good example to show that an easy solo can be amazing. I like the evolution of your take. The interaction between licks sounds like a dialogue and it is very smooth.
Every time I hear the take I like it more so I just want to congrats you for this taste take!
Keep on rocking!


Thanks! This mix came out great. It's such a mean backing track and it's cool to hear everyone's take side by side. Thanks for the positive comments too. I was concerned because I dug it, then showed it to a friend of mine and he tore it apart a bit. Thanks again. This was a really fun one.
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Yelo gab!
Thanks for the collab, kick some serious balls biggrin.gif

As far as the comment, I agree very much about the lick right before and after the mark of the second part, the parts I was the least satisfied with tongue.gif

And I can inform you that the wah was the real deal wink.gif ....and it almost entirely choked my tapping at the first note laugh.gif

Great job everyone!

and....thanks to Joe Kataldo for the gtr solo preset which I "stole" from his youtube vid biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Sep 23 2009, 08:27 AM) *
[b]Leedbreak: (03:30 – 04:00)
(from 03:45). From that lick everything evolves very cool with amazing double string licks. I think that you should add a bit of presence or treble to your tone. Ok, that's all for this take! I hope that this helps you! Keep on rocking!


This was not best work. Ironically the last part was totally improvised. It is the part I took time to write that was not too good. Takes a nice balance between the two, that I failed to do on this one.

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QUOTE (Marek Rojewski @ Sep 23 2009, 01:06 PM) *
Gabriel thanks for Your time, backing and comments!:) As I wrote earlier I had a quite long break from playing, and working on this collab was first thing I did after the break. Unfortunately I got bubbles on my fingertips (first time in my life mellow.gif ), so without more practicing I recorded what I could.

When it goes to tapping, I am not sure why is that, but I am doing something wrong lately. I had no such problems with tapping before, and now some notes aren't ringing as You said. Maybe this is because my strings are set really close to the fingerboard, much closer than on my first guitar? I must investigate it:P

Some takes are really great, I hope to be able to play like that in the future:)


Thanks you for the participation! Regarding the tapping this sounds weird. It should be easier if you new guitar has the strings closer to the fretboard. Check if the closure is making that the higher frets mute the strings.

QUOTE (enforcer @ Sep 23 2009, 03:28 PM) *
Thanks man, yeah you are riight I didn't have much time to record this, and also I still have some flaws that concerns me. Firstly, when I try to do something like this, I concentrate on the composing side more than I should sometimes. Thus things that I hardly do, or recently acquired (like vibrato skill or timing) starts to fail, and more monstrously, I fail the notice the problems on them. I should really concentrate more, and I'll do better next time.

A perfect mix by the way, as far as I can hear (with the guide of my reference monitors at home) there is no problem at all.

Great job mate, take care!

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That's exactly what I noted in the take. However I think that it's better to concentrate on the composing side which is the more important. It's really good to train that side that must be developed in the same way than the technical side. Now that you note this the only thing that you have to do is try to find the equlibrum between both sides. wink.gif

QUOTE (TheKeplerConjecture @ Sep 23 2009, 04:21 PM) *
Thanks! This mix came out great. It's such a mean backing track and it's cool to hear everyone's take side by side. Thanks for the positive comments too. I was concerned because I dug it, then showed it to a friend of mine and he tore it apart a bit. Thanks again. This was a really fun one.


You rocked this one! wink.gif

QUOTE (mhskeide @ Sep 23 2009, 04:27 PM) *
Yelo gab!
Thanks for the collab, kick some serious balls biggrin.gif

As far as the comment, I agree very much about the lick right before and after the mark of the second part, the parts I was the least satisfied with tongue.gif

And I can inform you that the wah was the real deal wink.gif ....and it almost entirely choked my tapping at the first note laugh.gif

Great job everyone!

and....thanks to Joe Kataldo for the gtr solo preset which I "stole" from his youtube vid biggrin.gif


Ah! Joe has always a great tone.

QUOTE (leedbreak @ Sep 23 2009, 05:11 PM) *
This was not best work. Ironically the last part was totally improvised. It is the part I took time to write that was not too good. Takes a nice balance between the two, that I failed to do on this one.

Thanks for your efforts


This usually happens to me. The improvisations sometimes sounds more amazing than a previously composed solo.


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Thanks for this collab and your kind words! smile.gif

To be honest I haven't got much experience in this style, as I've heard only a couple of Zakk's songs and.. that's basically it smile.gif (although I've watched many of Zakk's demonstrations and lessons and I really like his style smile.gif ). So I tried to just play as aggressively as possible, which was a bit hard because my unaccustomed fingers became sore after a couple of improvized takes smile.gif Actually after this collab I realized that southern rock/metal is one of my favourite playing styles!

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thanks for taking the time to do this and the comments... Ill work on my timing more


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QUOTE (Nimrandir @ Sep 23 2009, 08:42 PM) *
Thanks for this collab and your kind words! smile.gif

To be honest I haven't got much experience in this style, as I've heard only a couple of Zakk's songs and.. that's basically it smile.gif (although I've watched many of Zakk's demonstrations and lessons and I really like his style smile.gif ). So I tried to just play as aggressively as possible, which was a bit hard because my unaccustomed fingers became sore after a couple of improvized takes smile.gif Actually after this collab I realized that southern rock/metal is one of my favourite playing styles!

And thanks again! smile.gif



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thanks for puttign this together Gabe, and thank you for the kind comments, working on AP, gotta get it tighter smile.gif

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QUOTE (Chris Evans @ Sep 24 2009, 06:07 AM) *
thanks for puttign this together Gabe, and thank you for the kind comments, working on AP, gotta get it tighter smile.gif

thanks again biggrin.gif


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Hey Gabriel!

Tnx for taking the time to put this all together (mix & colab) and the great comments..will deffenently apply them next time! Looking forward to participate in your next one!

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QUOTE (DenisN @ Sep 27 2009, 05:00 AM) *
Hey Gabriel!

Tnx for taking the time to put this all together (mix & colab) and the great comments..will deffenently apply them next time! Looking forward to participate in your next one!

Denis


I'm glad to hear that the comments help! Thanks for your take Denis! wink.gif


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