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Marek Rojewski
post Sep 30 2009, 05:42 PM
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Hi there GMC'ers! I have to much time, as I visited my cousins at Northern Ireland, and I couldn't take the guitar to the plane. I started to wonder what should I do with my second guitar - Ibanez RG 370B (don't know what are the big differences between B and Dx, if there are any except the markers on the fretboard). Anyway - the guitar has a "floyd rose" bridge, but this bridge is of the crappy ibanez bridges family, so it really can't be used and maintain tuning. So now it is my second guitar, that can't be retuned fast, and I can't use the only thing that this guitar has and my schecter devil doesn't. It isn't a prestige/valuable model, so the only reason to keep it, is that's my first electric guitar ever, so it is bit sentimental. And here is the main question, and three answers that can be given:

1.Spend some money on this guitar, for example replacing the crappy bridge with a better one, and painting the guitar to look cooler.

2. Trying to make a average guitar a good guitar is a waste of time, so just sell this guitar, save more and buy another better one.

3. Keep the guitar on the wall and don't use it, as I won't get much money for it anyway.


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post Sep 30 2009, 05:54 PM
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QUOTE (Marek Rojewski @ Sep 30 2009, 06:42 PM) *
3. Keep the guitar on the wall and don't use it, as I won't get much money for it anyway.


That's the reason why you should definitely keep it IMO!

You'll hardly get any money for it but it still has it's value because it was your first guitar... You don't have to rush any upgrades unless you're in desperate need of a back up guitar. Until then it won't do any harm if you just kept it in a safe place and maybe a few years later you'll find it cool to just pick it up again, repaint it, get a new bridge or even pups for it and have a blast. And it's always nice to have a spare axe around just in case, no matter how it is a pain to retune it smile.gif


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post Sep 30 2009, 05:58 PM
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Try to get some money for it. If you can't sell it for a good price, hang it on the wall!


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post Sep 30 2009, 06:06 PM
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I'm sure Marc will correct me if I'm wrong but AFIK the DX will only be available in White with Black Hardware. It's the same as a 350 DX except that the 350 has a scratchplate and the 370 has a Back Routed Body and Ring Mounted pups!

Personally I'd keep the guitar and maybe come back to it and upgrade it at a later date, especially if you don't think you'll get a good price for it!
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post Sep 30 2009, 07:14 PM
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Just wondering ... how it come that the cheaper Ibanez models/trems have such a bad reputation here lately?

I have a RG350DX and it's the same trem like on the RG370 as far as i know(?). The material of the bridge is maybe not of best quality and will ware out more quickly over the years. The trem bar is not as handy as on more expensive models, but as far as tuning stability goes the trem works really well.

I would advise you to keep your guitar and spend some serious time in doing a nice setup. Try to figure out the sweet spot between spring and string tension, trem parallel to the body, etc .. and your guitar will stay in tune.

and ... you never want to let go your first guitar anyway laugh.gif




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post Sep 30 2009, 07:28 PM
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i think marek what you are missing is a good set up for your edge 3 trem. I used one for years and never had a problem. they arent professional quality, but they are good non the less...better than licensed floyd roses.

Rg320
350
370

are essentially the same! sensible was close!


DX just means it has sharktooth inlays. the 50 means it has a pickguard, and the 70 means its H S H no pickguard, and the 320 means its H H no pickguard wink.gif




for ibanez , the 1st number in the model name is the most important. that tells you the features.

3 series: 320, 350, 370 - edge 3 trem, inf pick ups

4 series : 420 450 470 - edge 3 trem, V7,V8 pick ups

you get the idea wink.gif


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post Sep 30 2009, 08:40 PM
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I vote for option number 3. No point investing in this old guitar, just keep it as a sentimental value as you say yourself. Just lock the bridge down, and keep it as a backup. It won't get much better if you upgrade some of the components, it may be wiser to invest in some new quality gear.


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post Sep 30 2009, 10:05 PM
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I would also go for option 3. If you won't get (a lot of) money for it, you'd better keep it, if you've got the room. Also, a guitar hangin' on the wall always looks nice smile.gif


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post Sep 30 2009, 11:01 PM
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Thanks for Your help guys! I had a gut feeling about this, just wasn't sure. I will also try to have some set-up tweaks, maybe it will become a bit better.


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post Oct 1 2009, 01:41 PM
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QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Sep 30 2009, 08:28 PM) *
... lot of knowledge about guitars ...


How do you know all this ? Is that your job or something ? smile.gif

By the way, I have the exact same problem than you Marek, with my RG270 and Floyd Rose and a solution that came out of this forum was to buy a Tremol-no to fix the bridge which is, I think, the biggest problem on those Ibanez guitars. This will allow you to continue using your tremolo and floyd but will keep it in tune. Well, I hope so at least. smile.gif

Is that the same problem you have ?

I will keep my guitar and probably buy a good one in a few months without any floyd and probably a good tremolo.



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post Oct 2 2009, 04:24 PM
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I think the best option is

4. If you have a friend that is starting on guitar, sell for him for a really cheap price. Just sell for a price which is real gift, don't try to make money of it wink.gif
That way it would be in good hands, it would still be used and you can get some of your investment back.

Otherwise, option 3.


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post Oct 2 2009, 04:53 PM
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I think option 3 is best, otherwise option 4 is nice aswell.

I sold my first guitar and sometimes regret it a bit (eventhough it sucked tongue.gif), but the good part is i sold it to a friend who now still plays it smile.gif


And my 350DX with edge3 has Very stable tuning, i only need to make tiny adjustments with the finetuners from time to time..
I like my lo-pro bridge more but don't think the edge 3 is bad at all.


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post Oct 2 2009, 07:08 PM
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your RG270 comes with the dreaded single locking trem...meaning it locks at the headstock, but has a fender style way of loading strings in the bridge. so what happens is the "balls" on the strings slip around when you use the trem which cause you to go out of tune. i had a 270 once...great neck, god awful trem.

the edge 3 though (the one marrek has) is a really good trem, just needs a pro set up, but blocking is also a good idea with the tremel-no



QUOTE (Keilnoth @ Oct 1 2009, 05:41 AM) *
How do you know all this ? Is that your job or something ? smile.gif

By the way, I have the exact same problem than you Marek, with my RG270 and Floyd Rose and a solution that came out of this forum was to buy a Tremol-no to fix the bridge which is, I think, the biggest problem on those Ibanez guitars. This will allow you to continue using your tremolo and floyd but will keep it in tune. Well, I hope so at least. smile.gif

Is that the same problem you have ?

I will keep my guitar and probably buy a good one in a few months without any floyd and probably a good tremolo.



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post Nov 18 2009, 06:51 PM
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I know this thread is a month old, but I thought I'd chime in. smile.gif

I have an Ibanez RGR320EX with the Edge 3 trem. I also had problems keeping the thing in tune and was about to sell it. I spent around $35 on a Hipshot Tremsetter and once I put it in, the majority of my tuning problems went away. It isn't perfect, but it's enough of an improvement that I don't feel the need to sell it.


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post Nov 18 2009, 08:13 PM
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im almost 100% sure its your set up animal (no offense)


Ive been dealing with the Edge 3 for 6 years and i really never had any tuning problems with them on any ibanez guitar. a lot of people have trouble leveling the trem,

look at this guide:http://forum.ibanez.com/Default.aspx?g=posts&t=69978


it might help,

however blocking a trem will always do good!


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post Nov 19 2009, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (Marc_Maiden @ Nov 18 2009, 08:13 PM) *
im almost 100% sure its your set up animal (no offense)


Same here.. my RG350dx stays in tune very well, it needs tuning only a little bit more often then my Jem with lo-pro trem!



edit: oops i see i said something alike a few posts up.. didnt notice this thread is so old ;D

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Guitars are like girlfriends, you'll never forget your first one...and maybe never wanna let go!
I'd keep the guitar, maybe you'll come back to playing her in a few years, or she'll be a nice decoration for your wall.
I still use my first guitar, because everything about her is perfect. I sometimes use other guitars, but I always come back to my first, an Oakland ZX1200.
See, I even speak of my guitar as a female!

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post Nov 19 2009, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE (Animal @ Nov 18 2009, 05:51 PM) *
I know this thread is a month old, but I thought I'd chime in. smile.gif

I have an Ibanez RGR320EX with the Edge 3 trem. I also had problems keeping the thing in tune and was about to sell it. I spent around $35 on a Hipshot Tremsetter and once I put it in, the majority of my tuning problems went away. It isn't perfect, but it's enough of an improvement that I don't feel the need to sell it.

I agree with Joruus here, I have a 350DX with an Edge 3 and I've not had a problem with the tuning at all. Sounds like yours just needs setting up correctly!
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