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Muris Varajic
post Oct 10 2009, 12:42 PM
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This is our thread for MTP during October! smile.gif

Since you already started with Alternate Picking Thirds lesson
I suggest that we use that one for month/REC assignment,
ofc feel free to ask anything you need and post takes of it
during month, you don't have to wait whole month to post final take only,
more takes-more hints from me. wink.gif

And as for first weekly lets try something a bit mixed,
use BT for Em Melodic solo and compose a solo inspired with AP Thirds lesson,
use shapes and patterns from that lesson but using proper scales
we discussed earlier to fit progression nicely.
It doesn't have to be 100% inspired tho but as much as possible would be cool.
Let me know if you have problems with any of scales,
I'll be pleased to help you with that.
And of course I would need a video or audio of that solo after 7 days, ok? smile.gif

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post Oct 10 2009, 04:13 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 10 2009, 01:42 PM) *
This is our thread for MTP during October! smile.gif

Since you already started with Alternate Picking Thirds lesson
I suggest that we use that one for month/REC assignment,
ofc feel free to ask anything you need and post takes of it
during month, you don't have to wait whole month to post final take only,
more takes-more hints from me. wink.gif

And as for first weekly lets try something a bit mixed,
use BT for Em Melodic solo and compose a solo inspired with AP Thirds lesson,
use shapes and patterns from that lesson but using proper scales
we discussed earlier to fit progression nicely.
It doesn't have to be 100% inspired tho but as much as possible would be cool.
Let me know if you have problems with any of scales,
I'll be pleased to help you with that.
And of course I would need a video or audio of that solo after 7 days, ok? smile.gif



Hello Muris


OK.
For month/rec I will do the AP at full speed for Cmaj and Cmin. I will post a few vid's so we can see how I am progressing

The main problem I am having now for this lesson is the finger position (what finger to use for the G and B sting for example) in the sequences in third intervals part going down and up. Same with the Cmaj. I don't seem to get them right and and I make mistakes every time

I will try to make a tab for Em solo using Alternate picking. That will be in about 7 days in video or audio or both.

See you next time

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For weekly assignments you can post audio or video,
video would be better of course but audio would work as well, no need for both tho!! smile.gif

And as for fingering, I know what confuses you,
I'll give you full explanations first thing when I'm back home from gig,
I'm leaving in 5mins and it would take me lot of writing to explain everything. smile.gif


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post Oct 18 2009, 11:20 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 10 2009, 01:42 PM) *
This is our thread for MTP during October! smile.gif

Since you already started with Alternate Picking Thirds lesson
I suggest that we use that one for month/REC assignment,
ofc feel free to ask anything you need and post takes of it
during month, you don't have to wait whole month to post final take only,
more takes-more hints from me. wink.gif

And as for first weekly lets try something a bit mixed,
use BT for Em Melodic solo and compose a solo inspired with AP Thirds lesson,
use shapes and patterns from that lesson but using proper scales
we discussed earlier to fit progression nicely.
It doesn't have to be 100% inspired tho but as much as possible would be cool.
Let me know if you have problems with any of scales,
I'll be pleased to help you with that.
And of course I would need a video or audio of that solo after 7 days, ok? smile.gif



Okay Muris,

I can upload again

Here is my first weekly try of the AP of C maj/min at 60 bpm.

Attached File  AP_C_MAJ_min_60_bpm.MP3 ( 1.59MB ) Number of downloads: 14


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post Oct 19 2009, 08:20 AM
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I can surely hear some progress here, specially over C major part! smile.gif

However I noticed few "wrong" notes when you play C major in sequences of thirds, ascending line.
You play E, D and E notes on high E instead of playing E, D and F.
That leads you to totally different descending line compared to original lesson,
you start from F note instead of E and whole pattern comes different.
I'm gonna try to post a tab of it here and pay attention on bold notes.

--------------------------------------------|----------------------------------10----12-10-13-|
--------------------------------------------|----------------10----12-10-13-12----13----------|
------------------------------------------9-|-----10-9-12-10----12----------------------------|
--------------------------9----10-9-12-10---|--12---------------------------------------------|
----------8----10-8-12-10---12--------------|-------------------------------------------------|
--8-12-10---12------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------|


--12----10--------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------|
-----13----12-13-10-12----10--------------------|--------------------------------------------|
-----------------------12----10-12-9-10----9----|--------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------12---10-|--12-9-10----9------------------------------|
------------------------------------------------|----------12---10-12-8-10----8--------------|
------------------------------------------------|--------------------------12---10-12-8-10-7-|


Then try to work out the bar that comes after bold notes, descending line.
First note should be E on high E, 12 fret, not F as you played it.

Now, major version had some more problems timing wise,
you're probably still struggling with fingering so you went out of tempo a lot.
You can try to practice that part by using different monitoring settings tho,
set backing volume louder and lower the guitar volume a bit,
it might help you to follow backing track and tempo far better.
After you record it you can set mix back to normal
where both backing and guitar are approx equally loud.

What about improvised take over Em backing track?
That was our weekly assignment actually,
AP Thirds is our monthly assignment for REC. smile.gif




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post Oct 19 2009, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 19 2009, 09:20 AM) *
I can surely hear some progress here, specially over C major part! smile.gif

However I noticed few "wrong" notes when you play C major in sequences of thirds, ascending line.
You play E, D and E notes on high E instead of playing E, D and F.
That leads you to totally different descending line compared to original lesson,
you start from F note instead of E and whole pattern comes different.
I'm gonna try to post a tab of it here and pay attention on bold notes.

--------------------------------------------|----------------------------------10----12-10-13-|
--------------------------------------------|----------------10----12-10-13-12----13----------|
------------------------------------------9-|-----10-9-12-10----12----------------------------|
--------------------------9----10-9-12-10---|--12---------------------------------------------|
----------8----10-8-12-10---12--------------|-------------------------------------------------|
--8-12-10---12------------------------------|-------------------------------------------------|


--12----10--------------------------------------|--------------------------------------------|
-----13----12-13-10-12----10--------------------|--------------------------------------------|
-----------------------12----10-12-9-10----9----|--------------------------------------------|
----------------------------------------12---10-|--12-9-10----9------------------------------|
------------------------------------------------|----------12---10-12-8-10----8--------------|
------------------------------------------------|--------------------------12---10-12-8-10-7-|


Then try to work out the bar that comes after bold notes, descending line.
First note should be E on high E, 12 fret, not F as you played it.

Now, major version had some more problems timing wise,
you're probably still struggling with fingering so you went out of tempo a lot.
You can try to practice that part by using different monitoring settings tho,
set backing volume louder and lower the guitar volume a bit,
it might help you to follow backing track and tempo far better.
After you record it you can set mix back to normal
where both backing and guitar are approx equally loud.

What about improvised take over Em backing track?
That was our weekly assignment actually,
AP Thirds is our monthly assignment for REC. smile.gif


Hi Muris,

Thx for the feedback

I misunderstood
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I thought improvised take over Em backing track was monthly assignment. But I will work on Em improve this week and will post it


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post Oct 19 2009, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (playaxeman @ Oct 19 2009, 10:59 AM) *
I misunderstood
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I thought improvised take over Em backing track was monthly assignment. But I will work on Em improve this week and will post it


Yeah, seems so.
Regular lessons are monthly assignments and for REC as well,
we can't use improvised takes for REC so far. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 19 2009, 11:39 AM) *
Yeah, seems so.
Regular lessons are monthly assignments and for REC as well,
we can't use improvised takes for REC so far. smile.gif



Hi Muris

I am working on an improve on the Em backing track.

I am tabbing it in GP but there I only have a track with the solo. I there a way I can import the backing as an Mp3 in GP5 so i have two tracks?


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I'm really not sure if you can import mp3 in GP,
it works only with midi files I think.
But you don't have to bother with tabbing your improvisation atm,
just record an audio take, it'll be quite enough.
I mention tabbing your takes in general AFTER you record them
so that you could compare where you went wrong with timing. smile.gif


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post Oct 20 2009, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 20 2009, 12:51 AM) *
I'm really not sure if you can import mp3 in GP,
it works only with midi files I think.
But you don't have to bother with tabbing your improvisation atm,
just record an audio take, it'll be quite enough.
I mention tabbing your takes in general AFTER you record them
so that you could compare where you went wrong with timing. smile.gif


Hello Muris,

He is my first improve. Attached File  Em_solo_improv_take_1.MP3 ( 1.26MB ) Number of downloads: 9



Here is my own analyse:


At the Em to F# part I was to late. I wanted to end on the E string 14 th position when F# was played but I had timing problems with the pivot sequence I did on the Em part.

I must do that faster this is what I wanted to play:

Em Em
S S S S S S S S S S S S S S
--12-10h-12-8h-12-7h-12----12-10h-12-8h-12-7h
------------------------10-------------------
---------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------
---------------------------------------------


Em F#
S S S S S S S S H
--12-10h-12-8h-12-7h-12--L-14--------|
-------------------------------------|
-------------------------------------|
-------------------------------------|
-------------------------------------|
-------------------------------------|




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That was quite nice Robert, I can tell that your improvisation views
are getting wider and wider as we work more on improvisation,
well done and keep it up! smile.gif

Here's our new weekly assignment tho,
this time I have something different for you. wink.gif
Here's a GP file with kind a short solo that I composed for this occasion.
What I want from you is to learn to play this piece, of course,
but I also want you to figure out a chord progression for it as well.
My suggestion would be to use one chord per bar,
that would be quite enough.
Analyze notes, figure out which scale were used,
also pay attention if there were some arpeggios used
cause that would instantly help you with chords.
You can write chords in GP file as post it here
or you can simply write progression in a post,
what works better for you.

As for playing, you can record your take over metronome only,
ofc if you can use some kind of drum loop
it would be even better.

Let me know if you have any questions tho. smile.gif

Attached File  Playaxeman_Oct_Week_2.gp5 ( 2.27K ) Number of downloads: 7


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post Oct 22 2009, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 21 2009, 01:00 AM) *
That was quite nice Robert, I can tell that your improvisation views
are getting wider and wider as we work more on improvisation,
well done and keep it up! smile.gif

Here's our new weekly assignment tho,
this time I have something different for you. wink.gif
Here's a GP file with kind a short solo that I composed for this occasion.
What I want from you is to learn to play this piece, of course,
but I also want you to figure out a chord progression for it as well.
My suggestion would be to use one chord per bar,
that would be quite enough.
Analyze notes, figure out which scale were used,
also pay attention if there were some arpeggios used
cause that would instantly help you with chords.
You can write chords in GP file as post it here
or you can simply write progression in a post,
what works better for you.

As for playing, you can record your take over metronome only,
ofc if you can use some kind of drum loop
it would be even better.

Let me know if you have any questions tho. smile.gif

Attached File  Playaxeman_Oct_Week_2.gp5 ( 2.27K ) Number of downloads: 7



He Muris

According to the notes in this solo I would say this is in the key of A:
I see the solo has 3 sharps.
A scale has 3 sharps in it.
Notes used are from the A scale: A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G#-A

Chord progession major: Major triads I-ii-iii-IV-V-vi-vii

Bar 1:

Possible chord here:
A (maj) notes: A,C#,E
or variations like:
A maj7 notes: A,C#,E,G# or
or A2 / Aadd9 notes: A,C#,E,B

A possiblity is also Cmin7 notes: C#,E,G#,B

Bar 2:
D chord notes: D,F#,A
or variations like
Dmaj 7 notes: D,F#,A,C# (if 1 bar was Amaj7)

Bar 3:
E chord E add 9 notes:E,G#,B,F#

But also Bm7: notes:B,D,F#,A

I have to go now

Will finish this later


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post Oct 22 2009, 09:43 PM
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I see some nice thinking here
but I'm not gonna comment it now
so lets wait till you finish it. good job. smile.gif


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QUOTE (playaxeman @ Oct 22 2009, 07:39 PM) *
He Muris

According to the notes in this solo I would say this is in the key of A:
I see the solo has 3 sharps.
A scale has 3 sharps in it.
Notes used are from the A scale: A-B-C#-D-E-F#-G#-A

Chord progession major: Major triads I-ii-iii-IV-V-vi-vii

Bar 1:

Possible chord here:
A (maj) notes: A,C#,E
or variations like:
A maj7 notes: A,C#,E,G# or
or A2 / Aadd9 notes: A,C#,E,B

A possiblity is also Cmin7 notes: C#,E,G#,B

Bar 2:
D chord notes: D,F#,A
or variations like
Dmaj 7 notes: D,F#,A,C# (if 1 bar was Amaj7)

Bar 3:
E chord E add 9 notes:E,G#,B,F#

But also Bm7: notes:B,D,F#,A

I have to go now

Will finish this later



I resume

Bar 1: A
Bar 2: D
Bar 3: E
Bar 4: E


Bar 5: G note played with Em chord: notes: E,G,B

E, F#, G#, B, E, F#, G#, B notes play over Bm chord, notes B,D,F# or variation of Bm like Bm7/9

Bar 6: first 5 notes ( F#, A#, C#, E, F# ) F#minor7, notes: F#,A,C#,E
Last 3 notes (D, C#,D) Bm chord

Bar 7 notes played: E, E, F#, G#,A, B, C#,D, E, F# G#, A,B
E 7 Chord: notes: E,G#,B,D

Bar 8 Notes: A, E, C# , B , G#, A possible chord chord A notes: A,C#,E,G#

Let see what it should be...




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Very very nice!!

Bar 5 should be Em tho, no need for using Bm there.
And I guess you had a typo regarding bar 6,
it was F#7 (cause of note A#), first you named A# note but then you said A
which probably led to this tiny confusion. smile.gif

Is mp3 take ready to go?
I would like to hear how you play it, expression wise. smile.gif


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 25 2009, 01:26 AM) *
Very very nice!!

Bar 5 should be Em tho, no need for using Bm there.
And I guess you had a typo regarding bar 6,
it was F#7 (cause of note A#), first you named A# note but then you said A
which probably led to this tiny confusion. smile.gif

Is mp3 take ready to go?
I would like to hear how you play it, expression wise. smile.gif



Ok Muris,

Here the mp3

Attached File  mtp_oct_take1.MP3 ( 529.59K ) Number of downloads: 7


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Ahh, sweeeet tone!!
This was a very surprise I must say,
I almost expected distorted tone but you came up with clean one, good thinking.
Tho I was expecting you to play it over metronome for better time tracking
but never mind, this is more than great imo. smile.gif

I just came home from London tho,
sorry for not posting your last weekly assignment before,
will do it asap!!


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 26 2009, 07:25 PM) *
Ahh, sweeeet tone!!
This was a very surprise I must say,
I almost expected distorted tone but you came up with clean one, good thinking.
Tho I was expecting you to play it over metronome for better time tracking
but never mind, this is more than great imo. smile.gif

I just came home from London tho,
sorry for not posting your last weekly assignment before,
will do it asap!!



Thanks Muris,

I didn't know how many bpm I should use.

Is it 80 bpm



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post Oct 26 2009, 10:03 PM
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Well yeah, tempo in GP file was 80 bpm.
Anyways, no need to record another take,
just use metronome for next similar assignments (GP file without BT)
and it shall be just fine! smile.gif

BTW, how is your REC assignment going???
We have few more days left. smile.gif

This post has been edited by Muris Varajic: Oct 26 2009, 10:04 PM


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 26 2009, 10:03 PM) *
Well yeah, tempo in GP file was 80 bpm.
Anyways, no need to record another take,
just use metronome for next similar assignments (GP file without BT)
and it shall be just fine! smile.gif

BTW, how is your REC assignment going???
We have few more days left. smile.gif



Well to be honest, I still make the same mistake at the end. (and I feel a "little" silly about that cause we are talking about very complicated stuff here)

But the thing is I have that wrong 3th sequence in my head and I can't get it out. Today I started to loop the sequence starting on 20 bpm up to 50. That worked fine. I have to cement that to get it right otherwise I will go on automatic pilot and will play the wrong sequence at the end.

I will try to make a video tomorrow.

We will see smile.gif







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