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madspoulsen
post Oct 12 2009, 09:23 PM
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Hello everyone!

I want to increase the speed of my play, but i don't know how i can do this the most effective. I am playing pentatonic scale runs at the moment along with a metronome, but i don't know if this is the right approach, if i want to increase my speed. I have been doing so for like 3 weeks, but i have only gained a little increasement in speed. I am feeling more confident about the the patterns of the pentatonic scale though, and my accuracy has increased aswell smile.gif

Does anyone have a suggestion for how i should change my practice?


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post Oct 12 2009, 09:27 PM
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You should try 3nps modal runs as well as 2nps pentatonics.

Check out Zsolt's lesson "Modal madness" to see what I mean.
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:39 PM
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I see what you mean. I am far from as fast as him, but i guess you can use the pattern at any speed. So what is your suggestion? to play a pattern like this along with a metronome and my highest capable speed?


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post Oct 12 2009, 09:45 PM
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QUOTE (madspoulsen @ Oct 12 2009, 09:39 PM) *
I see what you mean. I am far from as fast as him, but i guess you can use the pattern at any speed. So what is your suggestion? to play a pattern like this along with a metronome and my highest capable speed?


My suggestion is to learn the scale shapes, not the pattern he plays them in, just the shapes, then practice them (once you are comfortable with them), at the highest speed you can play them cleanly.
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post Oct 12 2009, 09:55 PM
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Sounds like a good suggestion. What do you mean by scale shapes? Is a shape the same as a little part of what he plays in the modal madness?


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post Oct 12 2009, 10:03 PM
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QUOTE (madspoulsen @ Oct 12 2009, 09:55 PM) *
Sounds like a good suggestion. What do you mean by scale shapes? Is a shape the same as a little part of what he plays in the modal madness?


The shapes are all the diagrams at the bottom of the main page. Learning the names of each mode is useful also. If you do that I'd like to point out that "Minor" is also known as "Aeolian", and "Major" is also known as "Ionian".
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It has often been told on this forum that anything you do to make you feel more confident with your fretboard is good to increase your picking speed. smile.gif



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post Oct 12 2009, 10:16 PM
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Ah okay, i see smile.gif thank you for the information and the quick replies!

I will add your suggestion in my practice and see how that works out.



QUOTE (Keilnoth @ Oct 12 2009, 11:03 PM) *
It has often been told on this forum that anything you do to make you feel more confident with your fretboard is good to increase your picking speed. smile.gif


I believe that is true smile.gif but it seems like my right hand is causing me troubles, when i increase the speed of the metronome, when i want to play faster. It is only the left hand, which is becoming more confident. Or so it feels like.


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post Oct 12 2009, 10:32 PM
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QUOTE (madspoulsen @ Oct 12 2009, 11:16 PM) *
I believe that is true smile.gif but it seems like my right hand is causing me troubles, when i increase the speed of the metronome, when i want to play faster. It is only the left hand, which is becoming more confident. Or so it feels like.


Even some great players like Joe Satriani don't have great picking but legato instead,
perhaps he didn't practice picking that much in early ages and then somehow
legato came like his trademark, who knows.
Anyways, if you have problems with certain technique or you're not satisfied
with it then it always means just one thing, you haven't practiced it enough. smile.gif


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The answer on this question is a simple one - practice. There is no "perfect" practice, there is no "perfect" playing, you are only practicing to make it as perfect as you can. The more you do that, the more perfect it will become. It is simple as that. Just stay focused and practice hard and long and the results (speed and accuracy) will come along the way - don't worry - they will come.


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QUOTE (Muris Varajic @ Oct 12 2009, 10:32 PM) *
Even some great players like Joe Satriani don't have great picking but legato instead,
perhaps he didn't practice picking that much in early ages and then somehow
legato came like his trademark, who knows.
Anyways, if you have problems with certain technique or you're not satisfied
with it then it always means just one thing, you haven't practiced it enough. smile.gif

So true Muris.....I always thought that I just physically have the skill to do AP......then I realized I just didn't practice it enough or the right way. smile.gif
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post Oct 12 2009, 10:41 PM
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I'd like to see a video of you playing. Maybe your hand movement or position is not the best. But, apart from that, the only thing I can recommend to you is something simple but at the sam time, so complex. PRACTICE!!. Hahaha


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post Oct 13 2009, 05:18 PM
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I guess the answer is pratice then smile.gif I'm glad to know, that there is nothing like the "perfect way of practice". Thank you for the answers!

QUOTE (Santiago Diaz Garces @ Oct 12 2009, 11:41 PM) *
I'd like to see a video of you playing. Maybe your hand movement or position is not the best. But, apart from that, the only thing I can recommend to you is something simple but at the sam time, so complex. PRACTICE!!. Hahaha


I will upload a video of me playing, if i can find some equipment for recording. Would be nice to know, if my hand positions are wrong.

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Yeah, video would be nice to see I agree. If there is some major problem, we can possibly point it out.


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post Oct 15 2009, 01:19 PM
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There are several ways but the best is if you use them all together.

1. Spend 30 min with picking warm up exercises
2. Play scales with metronome and increase 5bpm every 10 min until you're safe (no rush)
3. Play a solo along the backing track and learn it properly until you make no mistake. Start slowly of course

This is how I used to practice for several years.


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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Oct 12 2009, 11:37 PM) *
The answer on this question is a simple one - practice. There is no "perfect" practice, there is no "perfect" playing, you are only practicing to make it as perfect as you can. The more you do that, the more perfect it will become. It is simple as that. Just stay focused and practice hard and long and the results (speed and accuracy) will come along the way - don't worry - they will come.



I absolutely agree, building speed needs a lot of practice, and it is a kind of long term goal, you won't become lightning fast in 4 weeks,, this needs some more devotion. Practicing with a click or a metronom is absolutely essential, warm up before practicing, start at a speed that is comfortable for you and only increase the tempo in small steps.


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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Oct 15 2009, 02:19 PM) *
There are several ways but the best is if you use them all together.

1. Spend 30 min with picking warm up exercises
2. Play scales with metronome and increase 5bpm every 10 min until you're safe (no rush)
3. Play a solo along the backing track and learn it properly until you make no mistake. Start slowly of course

This is how I used to practice for several years.



I very much agree with this approach, use it myself and is very useful !


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post Oct 21 2009, 03:45 PM
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I always have difficulty on the 'make no mistake' part.

There are things I can play while sleeping, but sometimes, because of lack of attention, I make a mistake. This happens from time to time, and most of the time I'm able to correct it right away and continue playing. I don't know exactly how often it happens, but it does happen and I wonder if I should practice this kind of things more, even if I can play them perfectly for about twice as fast when I concentrate. Where do you pull the border of perfection ?


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QUOTE (Emir Hot @ Oct 15 2009, 02:19 PM) *
There are several ways but the best is if you use them all together.

1. Spend 30 min with picking warm up exercises
2. Play scales with metronome and increase 5bpm every 10 min until you're safe (no rush)
3. Play a solo along the backing track and learn it properly until you make no mistake. Start slowly of course

This is how I used to practice for several years.


I really enjoy practicing using this guide. It is great! This guide also makes it a little more fun to practice along with the metronome, compared to how i was practicing before smile.gif

Thank you

QUOTE (djohnneay @ Oct 21 2009, 04:45 PM) *
I always have difficulty on the 'make no mistake' part.

There are things I can play while sleeping, but sometimes, because of lack of attention, I make a mistake. This happens from time to time, and most of the time I'm able to correct it right away and continue playing. I don't know exactly how often it happens, but it does happen and I wonder if I should practice this kind of things more, even if I can play them perfectly for about twice as fast when I concentrate. Where do you pull the border of perfection ?


In my opinion, the border of perfection is an individual question. I practice until i am satisfied with the sound of the tune i am playing. I make mistakes too, but often if i haven't practiced enough or the notes haven't had the time to settle in my mind.


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