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Andrew Cockburn
post Oct 16 2009, 06:18 PM
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I learned a lot from building the AC1 but it was intended to be a beginners build and was never my final goal tonewise, as it was really mostly a blues amp. I am now ready for new challenges and have decided to build an amp that will take me into the classic rock era. I will be building an "October" amp - another design associated with AX84.com and as I did before, to save a lot of effort I will be buying a kit from here:

http://www.chappellamps.com/amplifiers/october/october.html

With a little luck the wife will let me get this for Christmas - as you may have read in my blog, I have the woodwork skills of an insane squirrel, so I am also planning on getting the optional hardwood case for it!

I am hoping this plus a my Keeley Modded TubeScreamer will get me all the gain options I need, but I am not ruling out the possibility of an AC3 which will be a high gain model!

I will go for the studio model since I mostly record these days, but if I ever go out on the road and like this amp maybe I'll also build the club or stage versions as well!


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post Oct 16 2009, 06:29 PM
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That would be great! I have always kicked around the idea of building a guitar kit...but they are all such low quality guitars when you are done. I wish there was a kit that left you with a guitar you actually wanted to play! I have thought about truely building one...but I don't have the woodworking skills or tools for that.


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post Oct 16 2009, 06:41 PM
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Those amp kits look great Andrew, and the sound clips sound really warm. Even the wood is beautiful smile.gif


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post Oct 16 2009, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Oct 16 2009, 07:18 PM) *
I learned a lot from building the AC1 but it was intended to be a beginners build and was never my final goal tonewise, as it was really mostly a blues amp. I am now ready for new challenges and have decided to build an amp that will take me into the classic rock era. I will be building an "October" amp - another design associated with AX84.com and as I did before, to save a lot of effort I will be buying a kit from here:

http://www.chappellamps.com/amplifiers/october/october.html

With a little luck the wife will let me get this for Christmas - as you may have read in my blog, I have the woodwork skills of an insane squirrel, so I am also planning on getting the optional hardwood case for it!

I am hoping this plus a my Keeley Modded TubeScreamer will get me all the gain options I need, but I am not ruling out the possibility of an AC3 which will be a high gain model!

I will go for the studio model since I mostly record these days, but if I ever go out on the road and like this amp maybe I'll also build the club or stage versions as well!



They look great kits Andrew. smile.gif

I absolutely love this tone from one of their amps

http://www.chappellamps.com/amplifiers/4-4...4-4-0_Clean.mp3


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post Oct 16 2009, 06:50 PM
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Awesome man!


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post Oct 16 2009, 07:29 PM
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Very cool Andrew, now U got me thinking... Have You tried one of those "live", what Do You think of matching speakers to this? We have a company here in Sweden that sells kits as well, I suppose they are imported from the states though:
http://shop.gmf.se/group.htm?category_id=4520

They sells kits of the JTM 45 as well as an 18 W version and a Fender Tweed kit.
The page is in Swedish, the conversion is about 8 kr = 1 dollar. In my opinion these kits seems to be a little expensive... Anyway, Im pretty good with a soldering iron, is it very tricky to build an amp by Yourself ??? (I believe there is a lot of money to save here, or am I wrong?)

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post Oct 16 2009, 07:33 PM
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You little squirrel there laugh.gif

Can't wait to hear it - if it sounds good I'll order one from the squirrel factory ph34r.gif


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post Oct 16 2009, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE (Kristofer Dahl @ Oct 16 2009, 08:33 PM) *
You little squirrel there laugh.gif

Can't wait to hear it - if it sounds good I'll order one from the squirrel factory ph34r.gif



What a great name for a new brand "Squirrel Amps"" laugh.gif


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post Oct 16 2009, 08:00 PM
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QUOTE (Boson @ Oct 16 2009, 01:45 PM) *
They look great kits Andrew. smile.gif

I absolutely love this tone from one of their amps

http://www.chappellamps.com/amplifiers/4-4...4-4-0_Clean.mp3


Yes, I looked at this one too - this is higher gain, it has an additional preamp stage, but I thought the October looked more versatile and better for classic rock sounds - I also hope it will sound good clean, although the clip you posted sounded good clean too!

QUOTE (Staffy @ Oct 16 2009, 02:29 PM) *
In my opinion these kits seems to be a little expensive... Anyway, Im pretty good with a soldering iron, is it very tricky to build an amp by Yourself ??? (I believe there is a lot of money to save here, or am I wrong?)


Its not too hard to build a tube amp from a kit if you already have soldering skills - if anything its easier than soldering circuit boards. However, don't expect to save money doing it yourself, expect to get higher quality construction though wink.gif

QUOTE (Boson @ Oct 16 2009, 02:45 PM) *
What a great name for a new brand "Squirrel Amps"" laugh.gif


Hmm, you could have something there - does Squirrel Amps sound better than Cockburn amps? I might be persuaded!


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post Oct 16 2009, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Oct 16 2009, 09:00 PM) *
However, don't expect to save money doing it yourself, expect to get higher quality construction though wink.gif


Hmmm, a Plexi-Marshall stack will cost about 10.000 $ reissued, and I've seen some Plexi heads around for about 5000$, even a early 70's head goes for about 2500$ (at least). The same goes for the vintage Deluxe's, they are horrible expensive...
If one can build practically the same amp(s) for around 1200$, thats a lot of money to save, or maybe I'm wrong ???

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post Oct 16 2009, 11:57 PM
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QUOTE (Staffy @ Oct 17 2009, 12:08 AM) *
Hmmm, a Plexi-Marshall stack will cost about 10.000 $ reissued, and I've seen some Plexi heads around for about 5000$, even a early 70's head goes for about 2500$ (at least). The same goes for the vintage Deluxe's, they are horrible expensive...
If one can build practically the same amp(s) for around 1200$, thats a lot of money to save, or maybe I'm wrong ???

//Staffay


In addition to that, Plexi Reissue has PCB board, and components are not of the same quality, although they are very expensive. People often replace the whole board with DIY kits available out there to upgrade them (costs even more).

Buying DIY kit can prove lot cheaper and better looking as well. You can make it identical to original amp as well, everything except the plate (who looks in the back anyways! cool.gif )


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Anybody heard of Squirrel Amplification coming out of the Northeastern part of the United states? I hear they are top notch! cool.gif

Gotta get my hands on one!


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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Oct 16 2009, 09:00 PM) *
does Squirrel Amps sound better than Cockburn amps? I might be persuaded!

Uhm... No unsure.gif I'd stick with AC

Sounds like a cool project smile.gif


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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Oct 16 2009, 08:00 PM) *
does Squirrel Amps sound better than Cockburn amps? I might be persuaded!

Absolutely!!
I'll endorse you!!!

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QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Oct 17 2009, 02:58 PM) *
"HI, I'm Sensible and I play Squirrel Amps cos I'm NUTS!!!!"
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QUOTE (Sensible Jones @ Oct 17 2009, 08:58 PM) *
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Hmm, it might just work - the AC2 from Squirrel Amplification ...

I would need some kind of squirrely logo to etch onto the nameplate of course but it might just work ...

@Staffy - at those kinds of prices, yes, it is a lot cheaper!


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QUOTE (Andrew Cockburn @ Oct 19 2009, 12:24 AM) *
Hmm, it might just work - the AC2 from Squirrel Amplification ...

I would need some kind of squirrely logo to etch onto the nameplate of course but it might just work ...

And your trademark could be to make the carrying handle our of a real squirrel's tail.

Add a note; no squirrels were killed or inj... not killed during the making of this amp


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QUOTE (MickeM @ Oct 19 2009, 03:08 AM) *
And your trademark could be to make the carrying handle our of a real squirrel's tail.

Add a note; no squirrels were killed or inj... not killed during the making of this amp


Sounds like a plan biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (MickeM @ Oct 19 2009, 09:08 AM) *
Add a note; no squirrels were killed or inj... not killed during the making of this amp


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