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post Oct 28 2009, 03:55 PM
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Hey guys, I own a Strat at home with a vintage spec. Now, I'm just wondering guys, what pickups, tremolo systems etc. should I put on my Strat to make it more suitable in a rock context. Thanks

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post Oct 28 2009, 05:07 PM
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Hey Raph, i "updated" my strat and it's much more easy and fun to play, i do really love old vintage strats, but mostly because the wood, not a big fan of the vintage pickups, tremolo, etc.

Here's one of my mod strats, installed a wilkinson vs-100n bridge, graphite nut, sperzel locking tuners, locking strap, dimarzio chopper on bridge, an ibanez single on the mid, and currently it got a fender stock on the neck from the 80's, waiting on a dimarzio cruiser to stock it there smile.gif, also it got just one tone for the 3 pickups.



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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ Oct 28 2009, 05:07 PM) *
Hey Raph, i "updated" my strat and it's much more easy and fun to play, i do really love old vintage strats, but mostly because the wood, not a big fan of the vintage pickups, tremolo, etc.

Here's one of my mod strats, installed a wilkinson vs-100n bridge, graphite nut, sperzel locking tuners, locking strap, dimarzio chopper on bridge, an ibanez single on the mid, and currently it got a fender stock on the neck from the 80's, waiting on a dimarzio cruiser to stock it there smile.gif, also it got just one tone for the 3 pickups.



Wow, this babe really looks bad!!!! smile.gif Is it a Fender Roadworn or did you worn it out by Yourself??? laugh.gif


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QUOTE (Staffy @ Oct 28 2009, 05:44 PM) *
Wow, this babe really looks bad!!!! smile.gif Is it a Fender Roadworn or did you worn it out by Yourself??? laugh.gif


I believe it is 80's worn out modded Strat, Adrian can give detailed info on this smile.gif


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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Oct 28 2009, 06:02 PM) *
I believe it is 80's worn out modded Strat, Adrian can give detailed info on this smile.gif


Well, it surely looks cool, and the hardware is just top-notch... I guess I have to buy another Strat since I don't want to ruin my vintage-style one...

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QUOTE (Staffy @ Oct 28 2009, 05:04 PM) *
Well, it surely looks cool, and the hardware is just top-notch... I guess I have to buy another Strat since I don't want to ruin my vintage-style one...

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I might have a pink one for sale soon!!! tongue.gif


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QUOTE (Adrian Figallo @ Oct 28 2009, 01:07 PM) *
Hey Raph, i "updated" my strat and it's much more easy and fun to play, i do really love old vintage strats, but mostly because the wood, not a big fan of the vintage pickups, tremolo, etc.

Here's one of my mod strats, installed a wilkinson vs-100n bridge, graphite nut, sperzel locking tuners, locking strap, dimarzio chopper on bridge, an ibanez single on the mid, and currently it got a fender stock on the neck from the 80's, waiting on a dimarzio cruiser to stock it there smile.gif , also it got just one tone for the 3 pickups.



YEAH! This guitar is ROCK! she looks great!


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For me, the bridge pickup is the main thing that I noticed that I missed for rock playing.

My strat is a custom spec design from a kit (Warmoth). Originally, I wanted to make sure that the sound was pure vintage Strat. After I played it for awhile, I love the way the single coils sound on the bridge and middle even though they are kind of thin sounding for rock playing.

My other guitars all use humbuckers and for rock, the humbucker pickups provide the big fat sound that I missed with the new strat. So to get my strat where I want it, I decided to switch out the bridge pickup only so that I could have the bright, crisp sound, and even preserve the strat "quack" on the neck and middle, and then get the rock lead sound I'm after when using the bridge pickup. I went with a Seymour Duncan stacked double coil for the new bridge pickup to preserve the vintage look of the strat (also, my strat body is not routed for the wider humbucker and I didn't want to go through the trouble and expense of re-routing the body).

I haven't actually hooked up the new SD so I don't know exactly what it wil sound like but recommendations from the others here at GMC made me confident that I've made the right choice. When I get it hooked up, I'll post a report here to let you know how it sounds. (probably the next time I change strings). Hmmm maybe I'll do this today since I'm taking the afternoon off of work anyway. smile.gif


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post Oct 28 2009, 07:49 PM
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well the guitar was in this state when i bought it, the body it's from the 70's so i asume the previous owners really beat the crap out of it, and i try to do the same biggrin.gif

QUOTE (Staffy @ Oct 28 2009, 11:44 AM) *
Wow, this babe really looks bad!!!! smile.gif Is it a Fender Roadworn or did you worn it out by Yourself??? laugh.gif



thanks gabriel, i love her!

QUOTE (Gabriel Leopardi @ Oct 28 2009, 01:20 PM) *
YEAH! This guitar is ROCK! she looks great!



exactly james, but one thing i notice is when you change your bridge pickup for a dimarzio or a SD, you really can ear the difference between it and the stock pickups, the overall quality of the sound is much better or at least it sounds "clearer", so i think i might change the neck pickup of mine, now i hear it "too hummy" compared to my dimarzio.

i mean, i love fender pickups and single coils in general, but i don't think they're compatible witn modern pickups on the same guitar. anyway dimarzio got the "area" singles, you might wanna take a look at those wink.gif

QUOTE (JamesT @ Oct 28 2009, 01:39 PM) *
For me, the bridge pickup is the main thing that I noticed that I missed for rock playing.

My strat is a custom spec design from a kit (Warmoth). Originally, I wanted to make sure that the sound was pure vintage Strat. After I played it for awhile, I love the way the single coils sound on the bridge and middle even though they are kind of thin sounding for rock playing.

My other guitars all use humbuckers and for rock, the humbucker pickups provide the big fat sound that I missed with the new strat. So to get my strat where I want it, I decided to switch out the bridge pickup only so that I could have the bright, crisp sound, and even preserve the strat "quack" on the neck and middle, and then get the rock lead sound I'm after when using the bridge pickup. I went with a Seymour Duncan stacked double coil for the new bridge pickup to preserve the vintage look of the strat (also, my strat body is not routed for the wider humbucker and I didn't want to go through the trouble and expense of re-routing the body).

I haven't actually hooked up the new SD so I don't know exactly what it wil sound like but recommendations from the others here at GMC made me confident that I've made the right choice. When I get it hooked up, I'll post a report here to let you know how it sounds. (probably the next time I change strings). Hmmm maybe I'll do this today since I'm taking the afternoon off of work anyway. smile.gif


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post Oct 28 2009, 09:48 PM
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Wow Adrian, is that thing still playable? Hahaha. Nice pickup choice and interesting tremolo system.

Also, guys, I'm wondering if any of you have tried doing a wiring mod?? I've seen this wiring mod which involves turning the volume pot into a push/pull pot and it allows you wil the pot pulled in neck position to combine it with the bridge pickup for a Tele "in-between" effect and also on position 2 (neck + middle) with the pot pulled, it can add in the bridge pickup into the mix, putting all 3 pickups on. Amazing, don't you think?

Also, I've heard that reverse winding the middle pickup and playing in either positions 2 or 4 is just as good as a humbucker.



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It's the best guitar i've played biggrin.gif (and i have a jem hahaha)

that push pull idea is GREAT, i used to have a strat with two mini switches besides de 5 way selector, and it got a LOT of pickup combinations, sounded great but was a little too complex for my playing tongue.gif

QUOTE (Raph @ Oct 28 2009, 03:48 PM) *
Wow Adrian, is that thing still playable? Hahaha. Nice pickup choice and interesting tremolo system.

Also, guys, I'm wondering if any of you have tried doing a wiring mod?? I've seen this wiring mod which involves turning the volume pot into a push/pull pot and it allows you wil the pot pulled in neck position to combine it with the bridge pickup for a Tele "in-between" effect and also on position 2 (neck + middle) with the pot pulled, it can add in the bridge pickup into the mix, putting all 3 pickups on. Amazing, don't you think?

Also, I've heard that reverse winding the middle pickup and playing in either positions 2 or 4 is just as good as a humbucker.



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Have any of you tried the electronic shielding mod for your strat, as described at GuitarNuts?
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QUOTE (methodseeker @ Oct 28 2009, 10:12 PM) *
Have any of you tried the electronic shielding mod for your strat, as described at GuitarNuts?


Just thought I would mention, part of the reason a Strat sounds like it does, is that it has no shielding (which sucks up tone). I would personally not do anything to my Strat, I want it to sound like a Strat. It is a very unique guitar as it is. If you listen to some of Ivan's stuff, with a Strat, you hear what I am talking about, you really can't get that sound with any other guitar. And as I said, the lack of shielding is a part of that equation.
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