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post Mar 14 2007, 04:08 PM
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I was wondering if anyone had any experience with the Line 6 Toneport ux2 usb recording and modeling equipment. I was thinking of buying it this week. Or can anyone recommened any good quality recording hardware? Thanks for your feedback.


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post Mar 14 2007, 04:20 PM
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my friend buy pod xtl

it is working perfect with cubase and you recored with no delay . it is the same technolgy as toneport

i love my pod xtl and i want people to enjoy it as much as i do

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QUOTE (Rockwouldbe @ Mar 14 2007, 11:20 AM) *
my friend buy pod xtl

it is working perfect with cubase and you recored with no delay . it is the same technolgy as toneport

i love my pod xtl and i want people to enjoy it as much as i do

Eyal


Seconded! Line6 stuff rocks for recording - I have an XTL as well and use it for recording and playing. ANy popd should be cool for recording.


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post Mar 14 2007, 05:31 PM
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So if you buy a Pod XT live and a recording program for the on the pc, you have pretty much al you need to make decent recordings? smile.gif


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QUOTE (ezravdb @ Mar 14 2007, 12:31 PM) *
So if you buy a Pod XT live and a recording program for the on the pc, you have pretty much al you need to make decent recordings? smile.gif


Almost but not quite ...

You can certainly record your guitar extremely well, but if you want to produce something a little more polished you will need other instruments effects etc - all of which are available and great quality, but they cost extra. For example, you can buy a great drum synth for a couple of hundred dollars, then you might want a Bass synth, that is extra, you may want reverb and compression plugins - more still. Most programs like Cubase come with basic instruments and effects you can use to get you started though.


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What software are you using to record from XTL?
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QUOTE (RodneyU @ Mar 14 2007, 01:08 PM) *
What software are you using to record from XTL?


I use Cubase.


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post Mar 14 2007, 06:53 PM
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Hey chainsbroken

I have both a POD XTL and a TonePort UX2. I record quite a bit in my free time.
When it comes to sound quality when recording guitar tracks, personally i'd go for the the POD XTL cause it definitely has a nice tone when recorded. The Toneport on the other hand has a bit of a humming sound when using distorted tones through Gearbox (the software used to control the TonePort). But the software does have a hum reducing feature which you should be able to mess around with a bit to come up with a cleaner tone (I havent put too much time into it because i've recorded guitar tracks through my POD XTL).

But i guess it comes down to this.
1) Are you recording guitar tracks only? or vocals too?
2) What is your budget?

As for the vocal recording capabilities of the Toneport, They're not bad at all. I've heard you need a mic with phantom power to make the most outa it but i myself use a Shure Beta58A and its pretty possible to get near studio quality recordings with the right software.

I'll rate each of the features for you in my openion. Hope it Helps. Rating for each aspect is out of 10.

TonePort UX 2
Guitar Tone: 6 (This would probably increase if you mess around with its settings a bit or purchase a modal pack the POD XTL has, which by default is the FX Junkie. There are more packs available though).
Vocal Tone: 7
Total: 13

POD XTL
Guitar Tone: 9
Vocal Tone: N/A
Total: 9

The thing is mate, if you are looking to record vocals too then the POD XT Live is kind of out of the question unless you're willing to buy somethign else to record the vocals with. But if you only wish to record guitar tracks and if $400 is in your budget, go for the POD XTL! (if you were plannign on buying a good multi effects pedal for the future, this in my openion is second to none smile.gif)

If you're really keen on the Toneport i can try messing about with it in the next couple days to see how well the guitar tones turn out. Just let me know smile.gif

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post Mar 14 2007, 07:09 PM
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So cubase makes also music on its own besides recording your stuff.
But, instead of buying an bass synth you can also buy a normal bass guitar can't I?


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post Mar 14 2007, 07:46 PM
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QUOTE (ezravdb @ Mar 14 2007, 11:39 PM) *
So cubase makes also music on its own besides recording your stuff.
But, instead of buying an bass synth you can also buy a normal bass guitar can't I?


Hey ezravdb

There is somethign you got to think about here though.. In order to get a good tone for a bass guitar through a POD XT Live, you're gonna need to purchase the Bass Expansion Model Pack which costs an additional $99.99.


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What would you buy to record any entire band for a "live" sound


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QUOTE (C.J @ Mar 14 2007, 07:46 PM) *
Hey ezravdb

There is somethign you got to think about here though.. In order to get a good tone for a bass guitar through a POD XT Live, you're gonna need to purchase the Bass Expansion Model Pack which costs an additional $99.99.


thanx, im a recording noob smile.gif


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QUOTE (Stevie·Ray·Vaughn @ Mar 15 2007, 12:26 AM) *
What would you buy to record any entire band for a "live" sound


Im not sure if the question was directed at me or in general lol.
The answer to this to be honest im not too sure about. Never recorded an entire band's music seriously.
I did once by using a mixer which i connected to the toneport Line ins. The quality here was fairly good.
I used it to record drums once. The quality was fairyly good.

But keep in mind this wasn't a serious attempt to make a record.
I could try look for the recorded tracks which i have on a CD and upload them for you to hear. Gotta look for the CDS first tongue.gif my rooms a big mess biggrin.gif

Technically you can use a toneport to record almost anything, but if you want the best of the best, you may be able to do a tad bit better.

As far as my experience for recording anything other than guitar goes so far, its as far as the good old Toneport UX2. smile.gif

QUOTE (ezravdb @ Mar 15 2007, 12:33 AM) *
thanx, im a recording noob smile.gif


Anytime. smile.gif
Im a live noob lol.
Oh yeah ezravdb, I saw on another thread that your first gig was coming up. Good Luck.

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Anytime. smile.gif
Im a live noob lol.
Oh yeah ezravdb, I saw on another thread that your first gig was coming up. Good Luck.


ahh smile.gif Thanks mate biggrin.gif


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QUOTE (ezravdb @ Mar 14 2007, 02:09 PM) *
So cubase makes also music on its own besides recording your stuff.
But, instead of buying an bass synth you can also buy a normal bass guitar can't I?


Yes, Cubase is an entire recording studio for recording acoustic instruments (by this I also mean real guitars) and it also lets you sequence drums, strings, bass, you name it. Of course you can also record any of the above live if you know someone who plays them and you have the equipment!

QUOTE (Stevie·Ray·Vaughn @ Mar 14 2007, 02:56 PM) *
What would you buy to record any entire band for a "live" sound


I'll take a crack at this ...

To record an entire band, using Cubase you need:

1. Lots of microphones for vocals, and the drums
2. An interface with multiple inputs - the drummer probably needs 8 on his own to do a really professional job, although you could get away with as few as 2, and you need inputs for guitar keyboard etc, either DIed or Miced, the choice is yours. You may need 12 - 16 inputs, and the hardware for that starts getting pricey as most interfaces only do stereo - 2 inputs. The interface hooks up to a computer using Firewire or USB
3. A PC, probably a laptop for portability, to do the actual recording
4. A copy of Cubase
5. Maybe a mixer, but a lot of the interfaces you get on the market include soft mixers. IF you have a mixer, you have the option of mixing the entire band down to stereo then you only need a 2 input interface. If you go with multi-inputs you can do the mixdown later which is much better. If you have a mixer anyway for your live act you MIGHT be able to hook it through to your recording interface in multi track mode. For guitars and vocals you may be able to take outputs from PAs and/or AMPS as you will need amplification to hear yourselves anyway as you record.

Its a lot more complex than that when you look into the details but that's how you do it!


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I have the toneport ux2 for recording guitar and vocals. Plenty of different models to choose from for electric. Acoustic is a little lacking but all i wanted was a clean acoustic pickup channel, which it has. I use a dynamic mic, sm58, for vocals. I would like to get a condenser mic and try that out. The mic models have some fun effects. I have two recording up, basically a test, I just plugged in and recorded. I knew nothing of recording but they turned out o.k. I think if someone knows what theyr'e doing it will come out better, which of course I'm learning myself.

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One recording is me playing and singing "Elderly Woman Behind The counter in a small town" by Pearl Jam, on a gibson j-45.

The other is just an electric guitar only version of "Better Man" by Pearl Jam, just trying out one of the effects.
Anyway I really like some of the extra features which are a built in tuner, a metronome for practicing, and you can import or play a cd for jamming over while in the gearbox software. I think you can also dowload some extra stuff from their site via the gearbox built in browser.

Hope that helps...

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Thanks for everyones advice on this subject. I'm just looking to record guitar. I havent even begin working on my vocals yet biggrin.gif For now though I just want some good quality recordings with my guitar. I'm looking to spend around 200 to 400. I was told the Pod XTL was was better than the toneport. Just a little more expensive. So I'm going to look into that before i decide.

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post Mar 17 2007, 06:28 AM
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hey chainsbroken i personally think you've made the right choice here.
If by any chance you're looking for somethign a bit cheaper than the POD XTL maybe you should check out the other models of the POD range.
I've heard they have quite a good tone too. However some of them dont support the digital out of the Line6 Variax. So if you Do not have a variax and want to spend leff.. It may be worth looking into smile.gif

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