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Bogdan Radovic
post Nov 4 2009, 01:23 AM
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This month will be all about the slap! smile.gif

Your monthly REC take will be to master this lesson :
https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/Larry_Graham_Style/

All assignments will be revolving around the techniques needed to play that lesson. You should also start working on it right now and hopefully by the end of month you will be able to play it well.

Weekly assignment 1:

Slap bass exercise 1


Lessons to practice:

Slap Bass Exercises 1: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/misc-less...bass-exercises/

Goal : To master different slap patterns and be able to play them against a drum backing.

Purpose : Practice your slap bass technique and get new slap patterns under your belt.

Instructions :

I want you to learn all the patterns included in the lesson. Practice them slowly with a metronome/drum backing or Guitar Pro file included. It is important to start slowly and gradually increase the tempo. I want you to slap and pluck a little harder (then in previous slap videos you posted). Try to attack strings with more force in order to get proper sound. Slap bass is an aggressive technique, don't worry strings will be able to withstand it. You want to be aware of your dynamic range possible when slapping.

Requirements :

Post updates on your practice daily if possible, describing what have you done. I want you to post the recording audio or preferably video of your performance of the patterns from the lesson played against a drum backing at the tempo you are comfortable with. For that recording I want you to record on a tempo you are comfortable with , if its 50-60 or 80 bpm doesn't matter. Its better to play clean and right then sloppy on a faster tempo. Just notify me which tempo backing track you need for recording and I'll send it to you.

Deadline to complete: 8th of November

Good luck and remember to post your questions and progress!

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post Nov 5 2009, 12:32 PM
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How do you feel about the assignment, especially the monthly REC take ? Do you think you can do it, as we can discuss to switch the monthly REC take for some other slap lesson if the one I recommended is too long/complicated etc.
I think you will be able to record that lesson pretty well after we go through all the exercises during next weeks.

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post Nov 5 2009, 02:43 PM
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post Nov 5 2009, 09:50 PM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Nov 5 2009, 02:43 PM) *
Let's do it!


Cool , that is the right spirit! smile.gif Let me know which bpm backing do you need for current assignment! smile.gif


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post Nov 6 2009, 05:48 PM
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I'm going on vacation for a few days. I hope to have a video up for you on Monday.


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post Nov 6 2009, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Nov 6 2009, 05:48 PM) *
I'm going on vacation for a few days. I hope to have a video up for you on Monday.


Excellent! smile.gif I just want to inform you that I won't be able to post new assignments until you post your "homework", for upcomming weeks. But Monday sounds fine to me! We have to do lots of work this month though, so lets try to be more efficient at it - 4 assignments + REC is planned. If you finish an assignment early I can post a new one for you earlier.

Cheers and have a great time on vacation! smile.gif


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post Nov 9 2009, 04:08 PM
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Here's week 1. Exercises 1, 2, 3, 4 & 6 are recorded at 110 BPM. Exercises are at 80 BPM.

I had a really hard time getting the double slap to come through on the recordings, so I slowed it down to 80 BPM.
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post Nov 10 2009, 01:11 AM
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Weekly assignment 2:

Thumping practice 1


Lessons to practice:

Thumping practice 1: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/thumping_practice_1/

Goal : To master different thumping patterns and be able to play them against a drum backing.

Purpose : Practice your slap bass technique and get comfortable with different thumping patterns.

Instructions :

I want you to learn all the patterns included in the lesson. Practice them slowly with a metronome/drum backing or Guitar Pro file included. It is important to start slowly and gradually increase the tempo. I want you to slap and pluck a little harder (then in previous slap videos you posted). Try to attack strings with more force in order to get proper sound. Slap bass is an aggressive technique, don't worry strings will be able to withstand it. You want to be aware of your dynamic range possible when slapping.

Requirements :

Post updates on your practice daily if possible, describing what have you done. I want you to post the recording audio or preferably video of your performance of the patterns from the lesson played against a drum backing at the tempo you are comfortable with. For that recording I want you to record on a tempo you are comfortable with , if its 50-60 or 80 bpm doesn't matter. Its better to play clean and right then sloppy on a faster tempo. Just notify me which tempo backing track you need for recording and I'll send it to you.

Deadline to complete: 16th of November

Good luck and remember to post your questions and progress!

P.S.

I was thinking a bit and I think we should change the monthly REC take for you. Since Larry Graham lesson is very long (2 parts) and has lots of techniques and changes maybe it would be better to do it some other time as I'm not sure we are going to have enough time to practice all the techniques needed for it.

With your agreement I would switch the monthly REC take to this lesson instead the Larry one:

https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/misc-less...ble-stops-slap/

How do you feel about it ? Its a groovy lesson that is demanding on double stops slap technique. I think you can master it perfectly after you go through all the exercises etc.

QUOTE (purple hayes @ Nov 9 2009, 04:08 PM) *
Here's week 1. Exercises 1, 2, 3, 4 & 6 are recorded at 110 BPM. Exercises are at 80 BPM.

I had a really hard time getting the double slap to come through on the recordings, so I slowed it down to 80 BPM.


Great to hear you are practicing!

I would suggest that you practice more these exercises at slow tempo. Start from 60bpm. Pay attention to slap technique but also to timing and grooves. You control the duration of the note with the left hand. By fretting and then releasing "force" on that particular finger will choke the sound and mute the note - control note values that way. In these exercises we had lots of different note values combined together in a tricky way. Try to listen more closely and to match the drums. With slap one thing is for sure, you have to start slow - when I learn a new pattern I always start with 60 bpm and then go up by 10bpm to desired tempo. I would also suggest hitting the strings a little harder next time (this was good progress in relation to previous slap work you done).

This week we are going to focus on the thumping technique alone. I would like you to record those exercises too, try to do them on a more comfortable tempo as this time 110bpm was a little to high after all, even 80bpm is fast.

Keep up the good work mate! smile.gif

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post Nov 10 2009, 01:25 AM
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The change in the monthly video is fine with me. I'll eventually tackle it and post a video to the REC program though. I've already learned more than half. No reason to stop now.

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post Nov 10 2009, 01:44 AM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Nov 10 2009, 01:25 AM) *
The change in the monthly video is fine with me. I'll eventually tackle it and post a video to the REC program though. I've already learned more than half. No reason to stop now.

Thanks.


That is great! Then I'll let you decide which one of the two lessons - to record for monthly REC take due the end of the month. smile.gif

Keep up the good work mate! smile.gif

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post Nov 11 2009, 02:28 PM
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Let's go with the double stops lesson for the Nov. MTP video.

Things have calmed down for me, so I should be able to get this week's lesson up by Sunday.


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post Nov 11 2009, 09:21 PM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Nov 11 2009, 02:28 PM) *
Let's go with the double stops lesson for the Nov. MTP video.

Things have calmed down for me, so I should be able to get this week's lesson up by Sunday.


Great, I'm looking forward to your submissions! smile.gif

This should be a fun slap month of mtp! smile.gif


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post Nov 13 2009, 02:25 PM
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I'm "auditioning" as a bass player tonight. It for a band I used to play guitar in 15+ years ago. We'll see how it goes.


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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Nov 13 2009, 02:25 PM) *
I'm "auditioning" as a bass player tonight. It for a band I used to play guitar in 15+ years ago. We'll see how it goes.


That is great news! I wish you luck tonight! Let me know how it goes. smile.gif


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Can you post a backing track for the thumping lesson? A slow one would be nice. wink.gif


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Attached File  60.mp3 ( 5.55MB ) Number of downloads: 145

Attached File  80.mp3 ( 4.17MB ) Number of downloads: 153


Here are the backing tracks! Use whichever one suits you tempo wise... smile.gif

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post Nov 16 2009, 01:13 AM
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My 80 BPM take...
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post Nov 16 2009, 01:55 PM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Nov 16 2009, 01:13 AM) *
My 80 BPM take...


Very good work! I liked how you slowed down and recorded on a more comfortable tempo. I think you didn't master that tempo yet but you are there. When practicing focus on timing as you were loosing time in this take and dropping out of groove. Its pretty normal for slap starters to do that, since slapping motion takes time to execute so you need to get used to how much each motion takes time so you can calculate it in when playing and be able to be in sync with the backing. Focus on that. Second focus point should be muting. With slapping it will be mostly left hand muting. Try to mute notes you don't want ringing with your left hand fingers while fretting notes you need. Slapping hand should also hit only the strings you need ringing and avoid others in the motion. You are slapping on a 6 string - its generally harder to do because of string spacing so you are doing great job so far!


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post Nov 16 2009, 01:59 PM
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I had to slow the tempo down to get those 16th note double slaps to sound right. To me, slowing the tempo down that much made the slow stuff really hard to keep in the groove. This is definitely something I need to work on.

I did record with the six string because I like the tone I could get better, but, you're right, muting those extra strings is work.

This week's lesson really showed me where I need to improve.


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post Nov 16 2009, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (purple hayes @ Nov 16 2009, 01:59 PM) *
I had to slow the tempo down to get those 16th note double slaps to sound right. To me, slowing the tempo down that much made the slow stuff really hard to keep in the groove. This is definitely something I need to work on.

I did record with the six string because I like the tone I could get better, but, you're right, muting those extra strings is work.

This week's lesson really showed me where I need to improve.


Its good to start slowing things down. This take on the lesson was much better then in the previous assignment. Timing was much better and everything. And yes, playing slow isn't easy at all and some fast licks do look easier up the speed or they appear that way. I would like if you could play all exercises you do starting from 60bpm and then going up 10bpm or less when you reach faster tempos. I always start at 60bpm when learning something new or just practicing exercises even though I have experience with slapping. 60 bpm is a nice natural tempo (1 sec = 1 beat) and with just some practice you will learn to listen which is very important. Whether its a metronome or drum backing it won't matter if you practice listening.

Keep practicing these things, I'll post a new assignment in few hours. I think we'll continue with slapping exercises since they good for fast progress.

Weekly assignment 3:

Slap Bass Exercises 2


Lesson to practice:

Slap Bass Exercises 2: https://www.guitarmasterclass.net/ls/slap-bass-exercises-2/

Goal : To learn one of more advanced but fundamental slap bass techniques - left hand slap.

Purpose : To get comfortable with left hand slapping technique.

Instructions :

I want you to learn all the patterns included in the lesson. Practice them slowly with a metronome/drum backing or Guitar Pro file included. It is important to start slowly and gradually increase the tempo. You can play exercises on your lowest string on bass (if you are playing 6 string), you don't need to play necessarily on the E string. Pay attention to left hand slap, at first it may feel weird but its just a matter of finding the sweet spot when hitting the fretboard. You can hit hard with your left hand and its recommended in order to get a nice sound.

Requirements :

Post updates on your practice daily if possible, describing what have you done. I want you to post the recording audio or preferably video of your performance of the patterns from the lesson played against a drum backing at the tempo you are comfortable with. For that recording I want you to record on a tempo you are comfortable with , if its 50-60 or 80 bpm doesn't matter. Its better to play clean and right then sloppy on a faster tempo. Just notify me which tempo backing track you need for recording and I'll send it to you.

Deadline to complete: 22th of November

Good luck and remember to post your questions and progress!

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