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post Nov 4 2009, 10:39 PM
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I'm writing a presentation and need ideas to differenciate both styles, appart from the instruments used, without going to much in theory, what would you say?

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post Nov 4 2009, 11:00 PM
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I think the difference is arrangements, sound, role of instruments in the band!


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QUOTE (Vasilije Vukmirovic @ Nov 4 2009, 10:00 PM) *
I think the difference is arrangements, sound, role of instruments in the band!


Yeah I know, but I wanted something more specific than that, I can only think about instrumental differences ( acoustic guitar vs. Electric guitar, etc... ), the sound is better because traditional blues are from a time where technology wasn't so advanced as it is today.


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post Nov 4 2009, 11:24 PM
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QUOTE (Rated Htr @ Nov 4 2009, 11:05 PM) *
Yeah I know, but I wanted something more specific than that, I can only think about instrumental differences ( acoustic guitar vs. Electric guitar, etc... ), the sound is better because traditional blues are from a time where technology wasn't so advanced as it is today.



I think the "modern" blues has borrowed a lot from other music styles - everything is connected somehow. For instance Robben Ford is a great jazz-player as well, SRV took a lot of Hendrix style and if You look at Guthrie Govan he's incoorperating just everything about modern guitar. Also it happened a lot tonally-wise, since the "old" blues was mostly based on the blues scale and occasionally the major third. Nowadays, players use a lot of other stuff in their solos like Mixolydian modes, chromatism, playing on each chord instead of playing one scale for the whole progression. Well, there You something at least.....

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I would go along with Staffy's answer here. Traditional blues is a blend of musical forms and inlfuences that existed in those old days. Modern blues is all that + influences of modern age. So modern blues is evolved but still kept his roots. I suggest you investigate blues articles, specially wiki ones, and other blues history articles and try to spot the major differences yourself.
If you need to write a paper on this I can suggest some (very rough) structure:

1. Introduction
- describing the problem you have
- describe the methods and sources you used in finding the solution for the problem
2. Presentation Main Content
- describe the history of blues and it's origins, and make a historic blues graphical timeline with famous musicians (this is effective with presentations)
- describe the old blues, name musicians and musical styles of those old days
- describe modern blues, name musicians and musical styles it has blended with during the course of years
- compare two styles together and spot the major differences
3. Conclusion:
- repeat once more key differences between the styles
- possibly tell a bit about the future of blues


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post Nov 4 2009, 11:49 PM
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Thanks guys. My work is about the blues overall, its origins and all that, I nailed everything but a deeper detail of the modern blues, I think that I have some guidelines now to that smile.gif.

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WIki speaks about the evolution of blues but doesn't generalise it into modern types.


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post Nov 5 2009, 11:34 AM
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traditional blues + robben ford xD


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Early Blues. (Acoustic)
Derived from the Negro Spirituals sung during the days of Slavery.
Mix these spirituals with a more European Folk tradition and you get your basis of a 12 Bar pattern.
As the now-free Slaves move around the North American Continent they take this music with them.
It now starts to incorporate the Regional Music of whichever area.
As performers ply their trade on street corners and slide players find they don't have the volume to compete against standard Acoustic Instruments the 'Resonator' is invented.

Early Electric Blues.
As Instruments start to be amplified there is a definite trend to different types of Blues.
Delta Blues in the Deep South, Texas Blues (mixing Blues, Country and Rock and Roll 'Shuffle Beats') and in the North 'Chicago Blues' (a mix of Blues, Trad Jazz and Big Band Swing).

Modern Blues.
A mixture of everything previously mentioned and now incorporating elements of Modern Jazz.

That's about as pinpoint as I can be, there is so much more that should be mentioned and explored in each Era but hopefully this helps you in some way!
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The ethos of the blues to me is more than just a musical style, the very essence of this type of music cannot be pigeon holed into any single genre in my opinion.
Just think of the great blues songs, they dont really belong to anyone, they are passed down like family heirlooms through generations and people record them again and again adding their own little twists. The very essence of the blues distilled to musical notes is the blues scale, this sums up the blues to me as it defies all the normal rules of music theory, it shouldnt work, but it does.
With possible exception of classical no other music can transcend so many different cultures, races and diverse peoples and speak to the hearts of these people, my reasoning is that the blues will always speak to our inner souls as we can all as human beings identify with the emotions in the music and relate it to our everyday lives and experiences.
I wouldnt and couldnt try and identify the development of blues music over the years, so many different styles and genres are absorbed into it that its lineage is impossible to trace to a single source yet its inflence over modern music is absolute, if not immediately apparent to the casual listener, as the saying goes "Theres only two types of music, before the blues and after the blues!"
I saw an interview with Eric Clapton once, he said he left the Yardbirds because the music was becoming too commercial, that he had always felt a burning desire inside to take this music to a larger audience and that he felt, almost to the point of arrogance, that he was the only man who could or would do it, the interviewer asked him why and he couldnt answer, he just said it had always been inside him trying to get out, that right there is the blues, its in your soul and wants to come out.

Dont know how this helps you mate, its just how I feel about it!


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