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Ivan Milenkovic
post Nov 8 2009, 06:11 PM
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Hey guys, here you can post your takes and I will comment on the after that.

(for those of you who already posted takes in the sign up thread, there is no need to repost them, I will comment here).

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post Nov 8 2009, 08:51 PM
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first take here, loads of mistakes but hey thats me all over! tongue.gif

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post Nov 16 2009, 01:21 AM
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Rhythm: Very articulate rhythmical figures that really blend into each other nicely and maintain the flow. What I would like here tho is to here some kind of a build up, some rhythmic phrase dynamics. Use of more longer notes, and possibly some more pauses (although ones that are there are doing the job). You had good sense for rhythm on this one, I think now it's time to tame that sense, so you make a more structured rhythmic take. Simple example would be : intro - slower, outro - faster.
Phrasing: Great phrasing, good note choice in whole solo in general. I can see you practiced some pentatonics, you really nailed those faster pentatonic passages down. The thin that could be a bit better is the ending, it has to be more effective. Similar to rhythm, you kinda jumped right on the climax of the solo in the beginning, so the structure as a whole was a bit unbalanced.
Techniques: From what I heard in previous collabs, your technique has drastically improved. You're playing is now faster, better and more articulate, and you nail those notes down to the money. I'm very glad because of this, and I recommend that you keep practicing those bends and vibratos a bit, they can mean a lot. Also try to incorporate some more longer vibrating notes, it will "water down" the faster bits nicely.
Sound: Very good tone, distortion was quite good, buzzy a bit, but veeeery little. It was more smooth than buzy. The thing that bothered me is the reverb - too big tail. Try cutting it short, no need for that much reverb in general. A LOT less reverb, and if you want to make it audible, increase the level slightly, or just EQ it so it pops out somewhere in the mix where there is room.


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post Nov 19 2009, 05:31 PM
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Sted's take sounds very threatening, very vegas, hehe love it

The BT is really good, nice job Ivan


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post Nov 20 2009, 12:21 AM
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Yeah it sure does! biggrin.gif


Thanks Daniel! smile.gif


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post Nov 25 2009, 06:25 PM
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I broke my string dry.gif and I have to work for school the next month so I'm not going to restring my guitar...
I'll post this but it's just a test, and it's really not that good sad.gif
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post Nov 26 2009, 08:11 AM
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Ivan I´m sorry that I´m late but I have to confess that this collab gives me serious problems.
As I said when joined "Funky blues" is not really my style - obviously it´s not my style at all!
No inspiration is coming along - the one take I COULD upload is not one I´m happy with or want to be associated with.

So if you could extend the deadline for a couple of days I will try to figure out something in the next few days.
Thanls a lot in asdvance!

@ Sted: Wow man - what have you been up to?! Left your daytime job to focus on playing guitar? laugh.gif
Great tone, great playing (....and quite intimidating) wink.gif
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post Nov 28 2009, 12:02 AM
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Sure Berglmir, I'll prolong the deadline couple of more days, until Monday! smile.gif


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post Nov 28 2009, 12:31 AM
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QUOTE (Ivan Milenkovic @ Nov 28 2009, 12:02 AM) *
Sure Berglmir, I'll prolong the deadline couple of more days, until Monday! smile.gif


Thank you - I hope it´s worth it! wink.gif

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post Nov 28 2009, 05:39 PM
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Quibanez:


Rhythm: Great rhythmical phrasing throughout the solo. You have a great ability for syncopating the rhythm, more specifically holding the beat down and taming it with those long bends. This is very important to escape uniformity, and I think you really made a good progress in that field. One thing that I personally didn't quite liked as a listener is the fact that faster sequences were a bit scattered without strict note separation within a bar. I understand that faster sequences are something that doesn't have to be strictly in bar, but if you listen to great players, you will see that no matter how fast they play, notes will always be spot on rhythmically, and every note has this ability. If it doesn't this is done on purpose, so I suggest is just fine tuning the 16th and 16th note triplet runs a bit more.
Phrasing: Great punchy intro to the solo and good development throughout. Some great stock blues licks in there, but very nicely blended throughout the take. This is the proof of some mileage in blues jamming or natural talent for making a fluid solo. The thing that could be a bit better is possibly development in the second part of the solo. The structure here seems to get a bit loosy and uniform. I think you could also do even more effective ending with some nice long high bends for example. Just a suggestion for the ending tho. Structure needs a bit more development, so I suggest you focus more on the V-IV-I part of the blues progression. This kind of move is causing some issues I believe in this take.
Technique: Well played with a nice degree of dynamics in certain parts. I think in general your playing is solid and nothing stands out in a negative way. I can possibly suggest to focus more on those faster passages, and to really get those bends and vibratos fast and articulate.
Sound: Good clean sound that enables dynamics to be expressed via your playing. The tone is bit thin and cold, but this can be solved easily. In general it has a nice twang to it and sounds cool. The reverb is a bit box-like and shallow, sounds like a small room reverb that is unpleasant to hear in general, specially on headphones. What I suggest is inserting more deeper reverb with bigger feedback time value.


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post Nov 29 2009, 11:40 AM
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Well well well....this take is obviously the best I´m capable at the moment - which means: not very good at all! dry.gif
BUT I´m quite happy that it´s off my chest to be honest!

As posted before I really had a hard time with this one - I really don´t know why but it´s a fact and I think one can hear it in my take as well.
I have many MANY issues with this take - I´m looking forward for your feedback Ivan.

Thanks for your patience my friend!

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post Nov 30 2009, 12:37 AM
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A message for all the collabs I'm in...I've been having quite a few problems and will try to post all my takes tomorrow...I was going to post some takes sooner but the GMC Forum modifications made me take care of other subjects first, if it's not possible to receive one more day to make the collab, I'm sorry for taking someone's place smile.gif

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EDIT:

Here are my late improvised takes Ivan, just wanted to present something. smile.gif

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post Dec 4 2009, 02:26 AM
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Berglmir:

Rhythm: Good rhythmic structure throughout the solo. I think the overall balance was achieved in this take, but I also thing phrases could be connected in a bit more natural way. I can recommend possibly the use of more longer notes on occasions, and use of syncopation here. Timing was in general good, but I think more precise playing could also be implemented. When doing those fast speedpicking patters, I recommend more control and putting every note into place for more effective results.
Phrasing: Good use of pentatonic scale and blues scale. In general all the phrases used were very good. The thing that could be a bit better is the accenting of the chords. Although everything was sounding very nice and in tune, I think you could build a bit more natural melody by using strong notes of each chord when they come into play. This would enhance the connection with the backing. When I take away the backing it is a bit hard for me to determine what was the music over what you played, which is very important.
Technique: Overall everything was played very nicely and precisely. There are couple of techniques that could use some fine tuning. Bending could be more in pitch, vibrato more wider and slower, and speedpicking more accurate.
Sound: The sound could be better. It lacked dynamics, but also lacked drive as well. The tone was phase shifted in unnatural digital way, and although it was heard very nicely, I think you should investigate more to find a bit more natural tone with more sustain. The tone wasn't harsh and had good space which was positive.

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Rhythm: The timing was good, and the way you blended rhythm with the backing was good, but I must say the take was quite uniform in structure. The first part was full of long notes that didn't quite round up as a whole, and in the second part there were repetitive licks that didnt' quite have function in relation to the longer notes as well. I think more use of various note durations, and better structuring would do the trick.
Phrasing: Phrases used were good, and there were some nice call & response pairs during the whole take. I really liked the melody on the last couple of phrases. The thing I noticed is that you land phrases too much on the root, which adds to the uniformity of the improvisation, and makes all phrases sound similar, specially the longer ones. I suggest you analyze the chords, and start applying other important notes on the landing spots as well.
Technique: Vibrato was quite nicely controlled, wide and precise and on the right places. Bending was accurate as well, but I think yoru bending vibrato needs just a bit more fine tuning. In general everything was played good, and except from some string noise here and there your playing is great.
Sound: Good sound, a bit phasey sounding because of the digital modeling, and slightly buzzy, but it was nice and smooth. Amount of delay and reverb was too much, try cutting down a bit, to add a bit of warmth and "in-face" feel of your playing.


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post Dec 4 2009, 01:20 PM
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Thanks very much for your feedback - you know I am very disappointed with this take and although I try every night to make a better sounding one it just refuses to come naturally.
As I said before - I obviously could not connect with this style of music, but I sure will try to master this as well. So beware - I might even upload a Version nr. 2 of my entry! wink.gif
As always thanks for your very helpful feedback!

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post Dec 6 2009, 11:34 AM
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I know the collab is over, but I would appreciate it very much if you could listen to my second take (not second attempt though! dry.gif )
I hope you see some kind of improvement over the first one - I like it way better.
As I´m (still!!!) a complete noob with mixing and recording I have included the raw input signal without BT and without FX - maybe some sound-guru out there can show me what one COULD do if one was more profficient in this field?! laugh.gif

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post Dec 6 2009, 03:48 PM
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QUOTE (Berglmir @ Dec 6 2009, 11:34 AM) *
I know the collab is over, but I would appreciate it very much if you could listen to my second take (not second attempt though! dry.gif )
I hope you see some kind of improvement over the first one - I like it way better.
As I´m (still!!!) a complete noob with mixing and recording I have included the raw input signal without BT and without FX - maybe some sound-guru out there can show me what one COULD do if one was more profficient in this field?! laugh.gif

Cheers Ivan & all


That's a mean tone Berglmir, very in your face,

I think it's a little too much for the style tough

mix wise, the guitar is too loud. A good tip is to mix your takes both with the volume high and the volume low, this way you can hear subtle details that otherwise wouldn't


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post Dec 7 2009, 04:42 PM
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QUOTE (Daniel Realpe @ Dec 6 2009, 03:48 PM) *
That's a mean tone Berglmir, very in your face,

I think it's a little too much for the style tough

mix wise, the guitar is too loud. A good tip is to mix your takes both with the volume high and the volume low, this way you can hear subtle details that otherwise wouldn't


Thanks a lot for your feedback and hints. Not sure what you mean though by mixing the take volume high and low.
If you mean that I should have one track loud and the other one quite silent - wouldn´t the second track be unnoticable?! blink.gif

More or less I still think it´s my lack of knowledge regarding mixing/recording and Reaper especially.
The mix sounds very well over my monitors AND headphones, but as soon as I render the taker it gets muddy, some tracks are getting louder than before and so on........Arghhhhh
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